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[QUOTE="Blabadon"] Everything. Blabadon

It's my all time favorite game. Both Uncharted 2 and 3 are the only multiplayer I actually played. Love it put close to 500 hours into the Multiplayer.

In retrospect, I think its one of the greatest games I ever played. It fixed nearly every issue Uncharted 1 had, it was graphically the prettiest console game out there (and still looks amazing), had some of the best set pieces in gaming, had an incredibly well scripted and well paced story, and really awesome gameplay that never felt repetitive or archaic (with the possible exception of the too easy puzzles and platforming).

Honestly, there's a reason its so highly praised and happens to have one of the highest Metacritic scores of all time (96, up there with Half-Life 2, almost at the level of the best Zelda titles and higher then any current generation Xbox title). Its an amazing game and one that will go down in history as such, especially considering its influence in so many games now.

Funny enough the first game came off as a Gears meets Tomb Raider rip, and ND just really came into their own and produced a fantastic game. I'd argue that its the best PS3 title out there, and quite possibly my favorite game this generation. Possibly, I can't really compare it to amazing current gen games like Bioshock or Zelda or Call of Duty 4 with how different they all are, but it is definitely in the top 5 of this generation in terms of pure quality, entertainment and production values.

Already bought them a LONG time ago. But UC2 is one of the main reasons why I got a PS3 to begin with, probably one of my favorite games this gen and one of my favorite games of all time.

I feel bad for people who are missing out on the games, 360 fanboys just put aside your dumb jealousy of it and just go out and buy a PS3. You simply need to lay these ames, people who don't own a PS3 are missing out, BIG TIME!

There are no if's or excuses, you NEED to play Uncharted. End. Of. Story. You don't know what your missing, ignorance is bliss I suppose.

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I think it has some of the worst gameplay in gaming and is one huge step towards the ultimate casualization and quick time eventization of gaming

Could be one of the worst things that have happened to gaming ever, every good score it got is one huge step towards non games and movie like games with zero gameplay

Hopefully they will stop making such garbage and next gen will be about gameplay and not pretty cut scenes

Thankfully there are stil sites that can appreciate a good game and differentiate it from garbage, that is why Demons Souls got GOTY here

themajormayor

There are hardly any QTE at all in U2. I am starting to doubt you have a PS3. And it's full of gameplay. Play the games first before you say anything.

Lets be honest here, if a fanboy says he hates something because of all the stuff that isn't in the game, its pretty freaking obvious he has never touched the game.

Its like if I complained that Dead Space doesn't have enough action or violence, or complaining that GTA IV has no shooting and is all driving. Its just SO obvious I would have never played those titles (or even looked at them probably) if I said I hated them for flaws they didn't have.

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I think it has some of the worst gameplay in gaming and is one huge step towards the ultimate casualization and quick time eventization of gaming

Could be one of the worst things that have happened to gaming ever, every good score it got is one huge step towards non games and movie like games with zero gameplay

Hopefully they will stop making such garbage and next gen will be about gameplay and not pretty cut scenes

Thankfully there are stil sites that can appreciate a good game and differentiate it from garbage, that is why Demons Souls got GOTY here

SPYDER0416

There are hardly any QTE at all in U2. I am starting to doubt you have a PS3. And it's full of gameplay. Play the games first before you say anything.

Lets be honest here, if a fanboy says he hates something because of all the stuff that isn't in the game, its pretty freaking obvious he has never touched the game.

Its like if I complained that Dead Space doesn't have enough action or violence, or complaining that GTA IV has no shooting and is all driving. Its just SO obvious I would have never played those titles (or even looked at them probably) if I said I hated them for flaws they didn't have.

Ya basically fanboys just hate because they can't accept that there is something good on something they don't own. Only real complaints that I have about Uncharted are the puzzels are too easy and not challenging at all (though UC3 did have some improve them a bit).

Everything else is basically perfect I would say.

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There are hardly any QTE at all in U2. I am starting to doubt you have a PS3. And it's full of gameplay. Play the games first before you say anything.

ShadowMoses900

Lets be honest here, if a fanboy says he hates something because of all the stuff that isn't in the game, its pretty freaking obvious he has never touched the game.

Its like if I complained that Dead Space doesn't have enough action or violence, or complaining that GTA IV has no shooting and is all driving. Its just SO obvious I would have never played those titles (or even looked at them probably) if I said I hated them for flaws they didn't have.

Ya basically fanboys just hate because they can't accept that there is something good on something they don't own. Only real complaints that I have about Uncharted are the puzzels are too easy and not challenging at all (though UC3 did have some improve them a bit).

Everything else is basically perfect I would say.

YES, fanboys are just too damn stupid to become self aware in that regard. Like we get it, this amazing title is on a thing you cannot play, don't hate it for no damn reason.

Its like when I hear Hermits insult an amazing title like Red Dead Redemption, or anyone knock Mario or Zelda for being "kiddie" because they don't own a Wii. Its like shut up dude, you never played it, you obviously don't even know what it looks like, and I just feel sorry if you can't play this awesome game and have to be an immature asshat towards it to make yourself feel more sure in your decision to ask for the system you own for Christmas instead of, you know, the other system.

what was so great about the first Uncharted anyway? I played it when it came out and I liked it but Uncharted 2 and 3 are superior to it in every wayimaginable. Have you seen how much screen tear the first game had? Or the boxy level design ala PS2? What about the situations it puts you in? They are all the same. You walk forward a little then you're stuck in a flat and blocky designed level with cover objects that are so perfectly aligned that it breaks the experience and then the lack of verticality in the gameplay and shooting, weapons variety and enemy types doesn't help. The only thing the first Uncharted had going for it was the story-telling and the twist at the end because everything else was very archaic even by the time it came out. Hardly a 7/10 game if you ask me.

Damn all this Uncharted talk makes me want to play 2 all over again.

The only real flaw it had was the lack of Victor Sullivan (which Uncharted 3 remedied), and platforming linearity, it was just technically flawless in every other respect at the time. Just a stunningly great title with great gunplay, platforming, pacing, story, length, difficulty, polish, satisfaction, writing and, well, most everything. Heck even the multiplayer was incredible and fully featured, especially for a first effort, it had a theatre mode, various co-op modes, and awesome competitive, which is more then a lot of MP focused titles tend to have.

Makes me want Uncharted 4 for PS4, it would be amazing if they could focus on his darker side hinted at in the titles, maybe not to full on M rated baddies pleading for their lives like in The Last of Us, but Nate doesn't seem above similar abilities like using a human shield or cold blooded murder of enemies to progress.

While I'm wishing for awesome things, I may as well add slow motion shoot dodging, though I know it won't happen (even though it literally made Max Payne 3 my favorite pure TPS so far in how awesome and fun it is).

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[QUOTE="tagyhag"]Uncharted 2 is my 2nd favorite PS3 game behind Demon's. I was very surprised considering I found the first to be mediocre. I still have yet to play 3 but most say it's inferior to 2. Though I don't play the multiplayer anymore it was fun for what it was.tagyhag

Where did you get your sig gif ?

I thought 1 was just as good as 2. The main problem with 1 was in 2 also in that 85% is all normal people then last 15% goes all supernatural with a crappy boss fight. They both are fun games but not even close to the godly games it has been built up to. The games are known for the story and the characters but it is a very generic story and very generic characters they are just done very well. It is also known for the set pieces. I have played 3 yet so I can not comment on that one. 1 and 2 I think deserve a 8.0 or 8.5.

Played all UC games,never liked them much,to be honest...

Characters and stories were mostly uninteresting,never cared about them,shooting mechanics felt bad,imprecise,and bullet sponge enemies made things even worse.Also,shooting holds no weight,bullets have no sense of impact,all the time it feels like you're shooting at walls,and not at human enemies,which I consider a huge flaw,which killis a lot of immersion.No blood at all also makes combat further feel bland,lifeless...

On a more positive side,I do think there are things the games does well,so it's not all bad.I love the animations,they really look good for the most part(other than a few bad cover ones).Another thing I really like is the overall visual design.enviroments are well designed,and very varried,you never get bored from staying in one place for too long,due to great artstyle,and impressive tecnical graphics(for console standards).Finally,I think UC does linearity very well,unlike most games.Some action sequences are really memorable,and the game truly benefits from them...

In the end,I consider the series overrated,and while I don't think games are bad,they aren't great either.All 3 games would be somewhere around 7.0 for me.Worth a single playthrough,and that's it...

I can tell you one thing, Uncharted 2 will not be remembered later down the line. It's grandeur and praise was mostly do to high end production and presentation rather than purely gameplay mechanics. When visuals improve and impressive scenarios are possible on the fly without having to be heavily scripted, Uncharted will be forgotten.

I can tell you one thing, Uncharted 2 will not be remembered later down the line. It's grandeur and praise was mostly do to high end production and presentation rather than purely gameplay mechanics. When visuals improve and impressive scenarios are possible on the fly without having to be heavily scripted, Uncharted will be forgotten.

Pikminmaniac

Yeah everyone has totally forgotten about Half-Life and Far Cry by now because of how much better games look and play. There's no way we'll remember a revolutionary title once new games come!

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I can tell you one thing, Uncharted 2 will not be remembered later down the line. It's grandeur and praise was mostly do to high end production and presentation rather than purely gameplay mechanics. When visuals improve and impressive scenarios are possible on the fly without having to be heavily scripted, Uncharted will be forgotten.

SPYDER0416

Yeah everyone has totally forgotten about Half-Life and Far Cry by now because of how much better games look and play. There's no way we'll remember a revolutionary title once new games come!

(Hint: SARCASM)

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I can tell you one thing, Uncharted 2 will not be remembered later down the line. It's grandeur and praise was mostly do to high end production and presentation rather than purely gameplay mechanics. When visuals improve and impressive scenarios are possible on the fly without having to be heavily scripted, Uncharted will be forgotten.

SPYDER0416

Yeah everyone has totally forgotten about Half-Life and Far Cry by now because of how much better games look and play. There's no way we'll remember a revolutionary title once new games come!

(Hint: SARCASM)

You don't understand what I said. Uncharted's high praise comes more from graphics and presentation than the gameplay. It forced very scripted scenarios on you just to have a cinematic appeal. I'm saying that in the future this cinematic feeling will be possible without limiting the player

The games you listed are remembered for strong gameplay design

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I can tell you one thing, Uncharted 2 will not be remembered later down the line. It's grandeur and praise was mostly do to high end production and presentation rather than purely gameplay mechanics. When visuals improve and impressive scenarios are possible on the fly without having to be heavily scripted, Uncharted will be forgotten.

SPYDER0416

Yeah everyone has totally forgotten about Half-Life and Far Cry by now because of how much better games look and play. There's no way we'll remember a revolutionary title once new games come!

(Hint: SARCASM)

Well,I actually disagree.Many would say how HL revolutionized the FPS genre,and Far Cry was the starting point of one of the most technically impressive graphics engines,although,TBH,the game itself is being mostly forgotten today,only the CryEngine matters...

UC2,what exactly did it revolutionize?

It only amazed everyone with a nice showcase of PS3 capabilities,and high production values,but other than that,nothing I'm aware of...

Uncharted 3? Garbage. It was terrible compared to the first 2 and even the Vita release. The multiplayer was crap, the environments were uninspired, and the story was the weakest of the trilogy.

RandomWinner

I respectfully disagree

U3 is not that much diferent then U2 imho and what it did, did it better then U2. The bigger focus on puzzles (that this time around actually made you think while in U1 and U2 the puzzles were p1ss easy) instead of shooting segments made it a better game for me. And I think nothing will ever be as impressive this gen as it was the ship level. Also people complaint about the desert segment. I guess I'm one of the few that actually loved it and, though I ackowledge it had nothing of gameplay per se, it highly helped to get me involved deeply within the game. People talk about cinematic games as a bad thing. I actually like them if done properly and, imo, U3 did it masterfully. Why cant we enjoy cinematic focused games and gameplay heavier games? Theres room for both. I like the more cinematic feel of Uncharted games and the gameplay heavy focus of Vanquish for ex. I deeply enjoy both of them, so I dont know why people should despise one over the other seriously

disclaimer: this last sentences werent directly pointed at you but at the people that whine about Uncharted being more of a "movie" then a game wich is completely ridiculous imho

Its an amazing game and one that will go down in history as such, especially considering its influence in so many games now.

SPYDER0416

It's really not that influential. The closest anyone's ever come to backing up that argument is the idea of 'cinematic action', but games this generation have been heavily scripted before Uncharted 2.

What it is, is a game that just does everything right.

And I think nothing will ever be as impressive this gen as it was the ship level.4dr1el

And neither will there be anything as out of place in a story this gen as that ship level.

Uncharted 2 will not be remembered later down the line.

Pikminmaniac

1st. You're not Nostradamus to know that

2nd. Going by the amount of people that put U2 in their top 5 games of all time (and trust me, they're not few, mostly because many only started gaming this gen) I can safely say you're wrong. Many people loved U2. I'm pretty sure it'll be remembered down the line

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And I think nothing will ever be as impressive this gen as it was the ship level.FrozenLiquid

And neither will there be anything as out of place in a story this gen as that ship level.

I dont care. I loved it. Also I didnt thought it was out of place. If you're going to nitpick somethin like that then you have plenty of games to blame

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I can tell you one thing, Uncharted 2 will not be remembered later down the line. It's grandeur and praise was mostly do to high end production and presentation rather than purely gameplay mechanics. When visuals improve and impressive scenarios are possible on the fly without having to be heavily scripted, Uncharted will be forgotten.

Pikminmaniac

Yeah everyone has totally forgotten about Half-Life and Far Cry by now because of how much better games look and play. There's no way we'll remember a revolutionary title once new games come!

(Hint: SARCASM)

You don't understand what I said. Uncharted's high praise comes more from graphics and presentation than the gameplay. It forced very scripted scenarios on you just to have a cinematic appeal. I'm saying that in the future this cinematic feeling will be possible without limiting the player

The games you listed are remembered for strong gameplay design

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I can tell you one thing, Uncharted 2 will not be remembered later down the line. It's grandeur and praise was mostly do to high end production and presentation rather than purely gameplay mechanics. When visuals improve and impressive scenarios are possible on the fly without having to be heavily scripted, Uncharted will be forgotten.

SPYDER0416

Yeah everyone has totally forgotten about Half-Life and Far Cry by now because of how much better games look and play. There's no way we'll remember a revolutionary title once new games come!

(Hint: SARCASM)

Dont reply to this guy, I think uncharted 2 killed his puppy or something, he bum-rushes every UC thread and spews the same vitriol.

On topic

UC2 was an excellent game, its everything an Action Adventure should be, but UC3 was better :P

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And I think nothing will ever be as impressive this gen as it was the ship level.4dr1el

And neither will there be anything as out of place in a story this gen as that ship level.

I dont care. I loved it. Also I didnt thought it was out of place. If you're going to nitpick somethin like that then you have plenty of games to blame

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[QUOTE="FrozenLiquid"]

And neither will there be anything as out of place in a story this gen as that ship level.

FrozenLiquid

I dont care. I loved it. Also I didnt thought it was out of place. If you're going to nitpick somethin like that then you have plenty of games to blame

wut? Now I cant disagree with a guys opinion and dont care with another opinion that has nothing to do with one another? What kind of stupid logic was that?

Oh, so a level didnt advance the plot but was still fun to play? boohoo

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I dont care. I loved it. Also I didnt thought it was out of place. If you're going to nitpick somethin like that then you have plenty of games to blame

4dr1el

wut? Now I cant disagree with a guys opinion and dont care with another opinion that has nothing to do with one another? What kind of stupid logic was that?

Oh, so a level didnt advance the plot but was still fun to play? boohoo

and I added.FrozenLiquid

exactly... YOU added that reason not him. I thought your reason was stupid thats why I didnt cared while the other guy only said U3 was garbage thus why I respectfully disagreed with him.

What exactly arent you understanding?

If someone thinks I cant disagree with one opinion and not care about other then tahts moronic to say the least

Uncharted 2 is the highlight of the series. 1 was great but very flawed, 2 was almost perfected to a T and had the right pacing and the right amount of everything really. It was a huge departure from the first in some ways and blew away everyone. 3 was a let down. It was a good game but it felt rushed and bloated. Some parts were there just for the sake of showing off and nothing else and the story was very weak and the writing felt poor and inconsistent. The villain was horrendous and it didn't meet my expectation. Still a good game though

So it goes U2>>U1>>U3 for me. And I have a hard time listening to anyone who says 3 is the best, second best maybe but not THE best at all. But unfortunately the fanboys just say it anyway cos they think it must be the best by the rule of numbers but the fact is it's heavily flawed

Uncharted 2 was one of my favorite games this gen.

I can tell you one thing, Uncharted 2 will not be remembered later down the line. It's grandeur and praise was mostly do to high end production and presentation rather than purely gameplay mechanics. When visuals improve and impressive scenarios are possible on the fly without having to be heavily scripted, Uncharted will be forgotten.

Pikminmaniac

Uncharted 1 was a fun but severely flawed game. It had great characters, a pretty good story, and nice graphics. Unfortuantely it also had absurdly clunky combat, enemies that take entire clips to bring down, and like someone else mentioned, random spikes of difficulty. The AI was also had a habit of using their grenades more than their guns. Still, the combat was not horrible, just awkward and frustrating. What was horrible though was the puzzles. It's kind of ridiculous how the game outright gives you the answers.

Uncharted 2 greatly improved the combat. Enemies still took way too much to bring down, but at least the guns didn't feel like plastic toys. All round, it just had better presentation. I'd argue that the core gameplay was near perfect to be honest. It was much faster than UC1, but not as cheap. Sadly, the platforming and puzzles were still horrible. Not to mention that final boss... I don't understand how ND possibly thought it was okay to put such an embarrassment in an otherwise excellent experience.

Now, onto Uncharted 3. Unlike Uncharted 2, the set peices weren't handled well. It was about 3 times more scripted, with a dull story full of plot holes. The parts that weren't completely scripted might have been fun if they didn't completely butcher the gameplay. This was a result of a greater emphasis in melee combat. you can't close in on enemies, or else the game puts you in a lame QTE that leaves you completely vulnerable and murders the pacing. You can't swiftly take down opponently with melee like in the previous tow games. You have to partake in an awkward transition between shooting and punching which is almost always a bad idea. And agian, it still had the problems of the previous two games. Ridiculous.

Uncharted 1 was a fun but severely flawed game. It had great characters, a pretty good story, and nice graphics. Unfortuantely it also had absurdly clunky combat, enemies that take entire clips to bring down, and like someone else mentioned, random spikes of difficulty. The AI was also had a habit of using their grenades more than their guns. Still, the combat was not horrible, just awkward and frustrating. What was horrible though was the puzzles. It's kind of ridiculous how the game outright gives you the answers.

Uncharted 2 greatly improved the combat. Enemies still took way too much to bring down, but at least the guns didn't feel like plastic toys. All round, it just had better presentation. I'd argue that the core gameplay was near perfect to be honest. It was much faster than UC1, but not as cheap. Sadly, the platforming and puzzles were still horrible. Not to mention that final boss... I don't understand how ND possibly thought it was okay to put such an embarrassment in an otherwise excellent experience.

Now, onto Uncharted 3. Unlike Uncharted 2, the set peices weren't handled well. It was about 3 times more scripted, with a dull story full of plot holes. The parts that weren't completely scripted might have been fun if they didn't completely butcher the gameplay. This was a result of a greater emphasis in melee combat. you can't close in on enemies, or else the game puts you in a lame QTE that leaves you completely vulnerable and murders the pacing. You can't swiftly take down opponently with melee like in the previous tow games. You have to partake in an awkward transition between shooting and punching which is almost always a bad idea. And agian, it still had the problems of the previous two games. Ridiculous.

UnrealLegend

I can tell you one thing, Uncharted 2 will not be remembered later down the line. It's grandeur and praise was mostly do to high end production and presentation rather than purely gameplay mechanics. When visuals improve and impressive scenarios are possible on the fly without having to be heavily scripted, Uncharted will be forgotten.

Pikminmaniac

Who wants to do some coop in Uncharted 2? :]Stevo_the_gamer