Uncharted 2 expansions free! Let's talk about the game's place in history.

[QUOTE="TheGuardian03"][QUOTE="Blabadon"] It's not an Uncharted thread until DarkLink comes along. Blabadon

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sorry bra:cool:

[QUOTE="Blabadon"][QUOTE="TheGuardian03"] "even then the first looked better sometimes" What? How is this possible? :p Zaibach

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sorry bra:cool:

They were free a while ago, plus the U2 online is ultra dead. 0 daily players, and you'll never find a game. Everyone moved to U3Nengo_Flow

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[QUOTE="Blabadon"] Forests in Uncharted 1 looked better than 2's, water looked better and Drake's entire body got wet in Uncharted 2 when going in some water for some reason unlike DF. Just me nitpicking. Dat foliage man. Blabadon

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sorry bra:cool:

lol The mentality among gamers is beyond sad. So many people love Uncharted 2, but since the 3rd game wasn't much of a leap, it's automatically ****

Given Uncharted 3 had better multiplayer map design, more customization, split screen multiplayer online and offline, better visuals, better sound design, better setpieces, better hand to hand, better puzzles, I think it's safe to say the game was far from terrible.

How do gamers go from being in awe of Uncharted 2 but turn around and hate Uncharted 3? Hard to imagine that somebody really enjoyed the 2nd if they hated the 3rd given it's very much the same but improved in multiple areas and slightly worse in a few others.

I always see people hating on Splinter Cell Double Agent yet praising Chaos Theory. Double Agent still had that great gameplay, so I still very much enjoyed it. Maybe gamers these days prefer the cover art or something and that's how they judge them later sequels. Not sure exactly.

[QUOTE="Blabadon"][QUOTE="Zaibach"]uc1

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sorry bra:cool:

Mcspanky37

[QUOTE="Mcspanky37"][QUOTE="Blabadon"] Gameplay pic vs. bullshot is quite unfair. Blabadon

Uncharted 3 is my favourite in the series, followed by Uncharted 2, and last would be Uncharted 1. However I find that many give little credit to Uncharted Drake's Fortune. I will never understand this, it's a great game and one of my favourite games this gen. It still holds up incredibly well. It's nice to see that you give it plenty of praise.

I always see people hating on Splinter Cell Double Agent yet praising Chaos Theory. Double Agent still had that great gameplay, so I still very much enjoyed it. Maybe gamers these days prefer the cover art or something and that's how they judge them later sequels. Not sure exactly.

contracts420

lol The mentality among gamers is beyond sad. So many people love Uncharted 2, but since the 3rd game wasn't much of a leap, it's automatically ****

Given Uncharted 3 had better multiplayer map design, more customization, split screen multiplayer online and offline, better visuals, better sound design, better setpieces, better hand to hand, better puzzles, I think it's safe to say the game was far from terrible.

How do gamers go from being in awe of Uncharted 2 but turn around and hate Uncharted 3? Hard to imagine that somebody really enjoyed the 2nd if they hated the 3rd given it's very much the same but improved in multiple areas and slightly worse in a few others.

I always see people hating on Splinter Cell Double Agent yet praising Chaos Theory. Double Agent still had that great gameplay, so I still very much enjoyed it. Maybe gamers these days prefer the cover art or something and that's how they judge them later sequels. Not sure exactly.

contracts420

Anyway, as for my opinion on Uncharted, I though 1 wasn't that great. The enemies constantly mobbing you and being bullet sponges was annoying, there was too much shooting and not enough of everything else. It just felt like Gears of War minus the good combat. It wasn't a terrible game but it wasn't good either.

I thought Uncharted 2 was much better but it still wasn't the second coming of Christ everyone made it out to be. It was just a heavily scripted on rails explosion fest like Call of Duty that at least knew how to slow down every now and then even if it was to throw in some puzzles that solved themselves. The setting and premise of Uncharted is refreshing for videogames. The characters are kinda charming but it's hard to fool yourself into really believing in someone like Nathan Drake when really, Nathan is murdering guys left and right. I mean, theres this one scene in I think it was Uncharted 2 where someones like "you can't kill him, you're just not that kind of guys" or something like that and I'm like "what the hell, he just got done killing like 200 guys".

Killing tons of dudes in games like Halo, Metal Gear and others is more acceptable because you're playing as some super soldier or some bad ass, they aren't trying to pass off the main character as some charming, relatable average joe or something. Point is if you want your character to seem like a sane not murderer then don't have them murder a hundred guys every hour. There can be more to games like this than killing all the time.

So I probably wont play Uncharted 3. The first two were okay but they always were far off from their potential. I don't want Call of Duty: Indiana Jones Edition.

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people also need to understand that the whole UC2 team split in half and some went to UC3 and some went to work on the Last of UsChris_Williams

No they don't. That shouldn't be relevent at all when judging the game. It might explain the why the game is the way it is but it doesn't deserve mercy for it when the games still launches at the same rpice as any other. When you judge a game you do just that, not the outside elements.

lol The mentality among gamers is beyond sad. So many people love Uncharted 2, but since the 3rd game wasn't much of a leap, it's automatically ****

Given Uncharted 3 had better multiplayer map design, more customization, split screen multiplayer online and offline, better visuals, better sound design, better setpieces, better hand to hand, better puzzles, I think it's safe to say the game was far from terrible.

How do gamers go from being in awe of Uncharted 2 but turn around and hate Uncharted 3? Hard to imagine that somebody really enjoyed the 2nd if they hated the 3rd given it's very much the same but improved in multiple areas and slightly worse in a few others.

I always see people hating on Splinter Cell Double Agent yet praising Chaos Theory. Double Agent still had that great gameplay, so I still very much enjoyed it. Maybe gamers these days prefer the cover art or something and that's how they judge them later sequels. Not sure exactly.

contracts420

This post tells the truth ^^^^

Why someone would LOVE U2 and hate on U3 when they're so similar is beyond me

I tell ya men, once something gets popular is bashed back and forth. After U2 the series became so popular that I was already predicting people to despise U3 before release. Wanna bet The Dark Knight Rises will be bashed like hell after the success of TDK? Even if its just as awesome as TDK? People are ridiculous

I can't see how so many people love Uncharted 2, yet go on to say they HATE the third installment for its "poor" quality? :?

I can't see how so many people love Uncharted 2, yet go on to say they HATE the third installment for its "poor" quality? :?

GamingGod999

Moron hive mind aka SW

I can't see how so many people love Uncharted 2, yet go on to say they HATE the third installment for its "poor" quality? :?

GamingGod999

I feel so hipster bashing the second one and the third one even more.

I feel so hipster bashing the second one and the third one even more.

Blabadon

I'd rank them 1>2>4 myself. The first game was best from a pure gaming experience. The second game had some awesome moments, but ultimately fell short of the first one in a lot of ways.

The third game was garbage. Awful gameplay. It was like they gave the game gears gameplay or something, which just work against Uncharted enemies in Uncharted environments. Sloppy, to say the least. The parts where you basically had to fist fight someone while others were shooting you were awful as well, like that Bourne game.

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I feel so hipster bashing the second one and the third one even more.

themajormayor

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I can't see how so many people love Uncharted 2, yet go on to say they HATE the third installment for its "poor" quality? :?

themajormayor

Its not the same game but what they do is very VERY similar with some tweaks here and there

[QUOTE="themajormayor"][QUOTE="GamingGod999"]

I can't see how so many people love Uncharted 2, yet go on to say they HATE the third installment for its "poor" quality? :?

4dr1el

Its not the same game but what they do is very VERY similar with some tweaks here and there

[QUOTE="skrat_01"]'Place in history' What? No, seriously, what? It'll go down in history as a very good game that rests its merits largely on its production values and its very polished but ultimately extremely conservative and downright uninspiring gameplay. As a 'trend setter' it will games resting on conservative gameplay design and production value centric merits; highly scripted sequences like its 1998, and lots of shiny and polish. But ultimately not much there that's remarkable enough to stand the test of time. And I liked Uncharted 2.DarkLink77

uh, I'm pretty sure classics of today (like OoT for ex) has dated gameplay... A classic isnt defined by how the gameplay survives the test of time but about its impact at the time it released. Having in mind the HUGE number of gamers that loved U2 and put it on their top 5/10 best games ever I can bet it will become a classic and mentioned often in the future. And I dont even liked U2 that much, I personally prefer U3 but I cant deny what I see and the fact is: ALOT of people love U2

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I can't see how so many people love Uncharted 2, yet go on to say they HATE the third installment for its "poor" quality? :?

themajormayor

NOTE: Naughty Dog released a patch shortly after the game's release, fixing the gunplay issues players dealt with in the campaign (though this problem never affected me).

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[QUOTE="themajormayor"] It's not the same game?themajormayor

Its not the same game but what they do is very VERY similar with some tweaks here and there

I'm pretty sure ND released a patch that made the shooting exactly the same as U2... at least when I played it, a few months after its release, I didnt noticed any differences in gunplay but I've heard about several people that they had changed it but then ND released a patch that fixed it. I seriously didnt notice any difference between U2 and U3 gunplay but thats me. Also you could tweak the sensivity in the options menu me think

[QUOTE="themajormayor"][QUOTE="GamingGod999"]

I can't see how so many people love Uncharted 2, yet go on to say they HATE the third installment for its "poor" quality? :?

GamingGod999

P.S. Naughty Dog released a patch shortly after the game's release, fixing the gunplay issues players dealt with in the campaign.

The multiplayer is crap compared to pre 1.05 U2

Didn't fix it for me.

[QUOTE="themajormayor"][QUOTE="4dr1el"]

Its not the same game but what they do is very VERY similar with some tweaks here and there

4dr1el

I'm pretty sure ND released a patch that made the shooting exactly the same as U2... at least when I played it, a few months after its release, I didnt noticed any differences in gunplay but I've heard about several people that they had changed it but then ND released a patch that fixed it. I seriously didnt notice any difference between U2 and U3 gunplay but thats me. Also you could tweak the sensivity in the options menu me think

It didn't do much difference for me. I had the highest sensitivity for U2 and the highes in U3 and it was much slower in U3. Also it had input lag. It was borderline unplayable.

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[QUOTE="themajormayor"] It's not the same game?themajormayor

P.S. Naughty Dog released a patch shortly after the game's release, fixing the gunplay issues players dealt with in the campaign.

The multiplayer is crap compared to pre 1.05 U2

Didn't fix it for me.

Some of the weapons are indeed over-powered, but after a while I got over this and began dominating game sessions. :P

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[QUOTE="GamingGod999"] Excluding the storyline, everything the game offers is a greater improvement to its predecessor, particularly the online component.

P.S. Naughty Dog released a patch shortly after the game's release, fixing the gunplay issues players dealt with in the campaign.

GamingGod999

The multiplayer is crap compared to pre 1.05 U2

Didn't fix it for me.

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="skrat_01"]

Its not the same game but what they do is very VERY similar with some tweaks here and there

4dr1el

I'm pretty sure ND released a patch that made the shooting exactly the same as U2... at least when I played it, a few months after its release, I didnt noticed any differences in gunplay but I've heard about several people that they had changed it but then ND released a patch that fixed it. I seriously didnt notice any difference between U2 and U3 gunplay but thats me. Also you could tweak the sensivity in the options menu me think

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[QUOTE="DarkLink77"] Yeah like messing up the gunplay which is like the most important partohgeez

I'm pretty sure ND released a patch that made the shooting exactly the same as U2... at least when I played it, a few months after its release, I didnt noticed any differences in gunplay but I've heard about several people that they had changed it but then ND released a patch that fixed it. I seriously didnt notice any difference between U2 and U3 gunplay but thats me. Also you could tweak the sensivity in the options menu me think

agreed. Good analogy

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[QUOTE="themajormayor"]

The multiplayer is crap compared to pre 1.05 U2

Didn't fix it for me.

themajormayor

[QUOTE="themajormayor"][QUOTE="GamingGod999"] The multiplayer section offers both classic modes (alas Uncharted 2) and those that include the newly introduced power-ups.

ohgeez

They basically just took the Crap that was post 1.05 and added sprint and some other useless stuff like kickbacks and classes and some girl that's not even in the SP that said "time to use your kickback".

No you're wrong it was in 1.05 that it was OP'ed and then in 1.06 it was crap.

In 1.04 it took 9 shots (3 bursts) to kill someone. In 1.05 it was 6 shots. A much bigger decrease than with the AK47, that's why it was so OP. In 1.06 thet lowered the fire rate and it was useless.

[QUOTE="ohgeez"][QUOTE="themajormayor"] The core gameplay is much worse. It's been codified. themajormayor

They basically just took the Crap that was post 1.05 and added sprint and some other useless stuff like kickbacks and classes and some girl that's not even in the SP that said "time to use your kickback".

No you're wrong it was in 1.05 that it was OP'ed and then in 1.06 it was crap.

In 1.04 it took 9 shots (3 bursts) to kill someone. In 1.05 it was 6 shots. A much bigger decrease than with the AK47, that's why it was so OP. In 1.06 thet lowered the fire rate and it was useless.

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[QUOTE="ohgeez"] With the exception of sprint, I humbly disagree with you. Besides, the game is fairly balanced. The FAL was ridiculously OP'ed in 1.04 uncharted 2. Just nobody had noticed yet as people were still feeling the game outohgeez

They basically just took the Crap that was post 1.05 and added sprint and some other useless stuff like kickbacks and classes and some girl that's not even in the SP that said "time to use your kickback".

No you're wrong it was in 1.05 that it was OP'ed and then in 1.06 it was crap.

In 1.04 it took 9 shots (3 bursts) to kill someone. In 1.05 it was 6 shots. A much bigger decrease than with the AK47, that's why it was so OP. In 1.06 thet lowered the fire rate and it was useless.

Actually it took 7. But what's important is it took 3 bursts. And no it didn't take more if you hit the legs and 1.05 didn't remove leg damage... 1.06 added different hit boxes though.

Not really... that's why they added sprint. To "fix" their health change crap

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I always see people hating on Splinter Cell Double Agent yet praising Chaos Theory. Double Agent still had that great gameplay, so I still very much enjoyed it. Maybe gamers these days prefer the cover art or something and that's how they judge them later sequels. Not sure exactly.

skrat_01

It may be inferior in many ways but the core gameplay is the same, and improved in areas. Which allows me to get enjoyment out of it as half the levels are set up much like previous Splinter Cell games but features new challenges. However I should have used Pandora Tomorrow and the original Splinter Cell as my comparison.

Although your opinion of the Gears 2 campaign is something I find to be completely opposite of mine. I find the campaign to the original downright boring. It's level design alone is amateur at best. Environments that feel empty, areas that make little sense, one note animation, repetitive gameplay and design. The only area I would agree that Gears 1 is better would be the boss battles, in my opinion of course.

But you completetly miss the point of my post, which isn't to pick a game apart simply for lack of additions and improvements but for the fact that gamers tend to shun an entry in a series they enjoy simply because of these reasons. If I get more of something I enjoy, why would I dislike it? It's an oximoron. To be dissapointed is one thing, but to outright call it a bad game is inexplicable.

Keep in mind however that as you negate my opinion you seem to hold your own OPINION to a much higher status. Just something you may want to keep in mind.

Nahh dude, i promise you thats incorrect. Whoever wrote that wiki is a noob. FAL *1.04* Body Shots = 2 Bursts (6 bullets). Headshots = 2 bursts (6 bullets). Leg Shots = 5 Bursts (~13 bullets). *1.05* Body Shots = 2 Bursts (5 bullets). Headshots = 2 bursts (4 bullets). Leg shots = 2 bursts (5 bullets). *EW* Body Shots = 2 Bursts (4 bullets). Headshots = 2 bursts (4 bullets). Leg Shots = 3 Bursts (~8 bullets). EW = experimental crushing weekend damage

Edit: I removed the vid, apparently it wasn't 1.04, just came up under 1.04 for some reason. I'll find a better one.

Uncharted 2 was awesome. Uncharted 3 was pretty crappy in comparison.

Expansions have been free for some time now and the community for the online is probably less then 1000 players. Online was great up until 1.04. After that it got weird.