Uncharted is overrated

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#101 ermacness
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Ok since its time to point fingers, lets talk about how overrated Halo and Gears are.

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Now it's time to bring in the flame shields.:lol:

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#102 1Stark1
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I think 9.5 should be reserved for games that you can't blow through in 10 hours on normal (or less) with almost 0 replayability other than to find "treasures"McGronchy

Hmm, UC2 has multiplayer, but I guess you didnt know that.............

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#103 soulitane
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Ok since its time to point fingers, lets talk about how overrated Halo and Gears are.

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All high rated exclusives are overrated :o
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#104 gaming25
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Uncharted 1 isn't overrated. Uncharted 2 is FAR overrated. Both good games, but the amount of praise UC2 got was bordering insane, for what I seen as an incremental improvement over UC1

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I dont think you realized the production values that UC2 had. Buildings falling down and fighting on trains to name a few.
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#105 MFDOOM1983
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Ok since its time to point fingers, lets talk about how overrated Halo and Gears are.

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#106 MFDOOM1983
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[QUOTE="-Snooze-"]

Uncharted 1 isn't overrated. Uncharted 2 is FAR overrated. Both good games, but the amount of praise UC2 got was bordering insane, for what I seen as an incremental improvement over UC1

gaming25
I dont think you realized the production values that UC2 had. Buildings falling down and fighting on trains to name a few.

Those are set pieces...
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#107 McGronchy
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I don't use multiplayer very often. I like good storylines, and to be honest.. I loved UC.. both of them, they were both extremely good games. Just nowhere near a 9.5 in my book. Maybe 8's.

I just found it sucky when I tried playing thru #2 one more time and it was so boring that I had to take it out.

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#108 drufeous
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Nope, sorry. Unchartd is amazing.

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#109 ermacness
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[QUOTE="gaming25"][QUOTE="-Snooze-"]

Uncharted 1 isn't overrated. Uncharted 2 is FAR overrated. Both good games, but the amount of praise UC2 got was bordering insane, for what I seen as an incremental improvement over UC1

MFDOOM1983

I dont think you realized the production values that UC2 had. Buildings falling down and fighting on trains to name a few.

Those are set pieces...

Still was amazing, and not too many console games this gen, have pulled events similar to those events, off.

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#110 glez13
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I agree, Uncharted 2 is overrated, but it was still a good game.

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This exactly. Basically everything is either overrated or underrated, but as long as something bad doesn't become good, who cares. The games are great so who cares.

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#111 gaming25
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[QUOTE="MFDOOM1983"][QUOTE="gaming25"][QUOTE="-Snooze-"]

Uncharted 1 isn't overrated. Uncharted 2 is FAR overrated. Both good games, but the amount of praise UC2 got was bordering insane, for what I seen as an incremental improvement over UC1

I dont think you realized the production values that UC2 had. Buildings falling down and fighting on trains to name a few.

Those are set pieces...

The fighting on a train isnt a set piece.
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#112 gaming25
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[QUOTE="glez13"]

[QUOTE="DragonfireXZ95"]

I agree, Uncharted 2 is overrated, but it was still a good game.

This exactly. Basically everything is either overrated or underrated, but as long as something bad becomes good who cares. The games are great so who cares.

Is KOTOR underrated, is GTS SA underrated, is MGS4 underrated?
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#113 Pikminmaniac
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Every game rated 90 or over is overrated to someone. Personally Uncharted is not my cup of tea, but most seem to enjoy it

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#114 MFDOOM1983
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[QUOTE="MFDOOM1983"][QUOTE="gaming25"] I dont think you realized the production values that UC2 had. Buildings falling down and fighting on trains to name a few.gaming25
Those are set pieces...

The fighting on a train isnt a set piece.

semantics
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#115 Superzone
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Neither of the Uncharted games is overrated.
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#116 mrmusicman247
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[QUOTE="gaming25"][QUOTE="MFDOOM1983"]Those are set pieces...MFDOOM1983
The fighting on a train isnt a set piece.

semantics

That doesn't make sense.
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#117 MFDOOM1983
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[QUOTE="MFDOOM1983"][QUOTE="gaming25"] The fighting on a train isnt a set piece.mrmusicman247
semantics

That doesn't make sense.

"set-piece is a scene or sequence of scenes the execution of which requires serious logistical planning and considerable expenditure of money."

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#118 fabz_95
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I disagree, I think it deserves its acclaim.

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#119 glez13
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[QUOTE="glez13"]

[QUOTE="DragonfireXZ95"]

I agree, Uncharted 2 is overrated, but it was still a good game.

gaming25

This exactly. Basically everything is either overrated or underrated, but as long as something bad becomes good who cares. The games are great so who cares.

Is KOTOR underrated, is GTS SA underrated, is MGS4 underrated?

All of those are overrated by the fanboys and underrated by the haters. Basically everything is the same.

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#120 gaming25
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[QUOTE="mrmusicman247"][QUOTE="MFDOOM1983"] semantics MFDOOM1983

That doesn't make sense.

"set-piece is a scene or sequence of scenes the execution of which requires serious logistical planning and considerable expenditure of money."

You still have control of the character and where he goes on the train.

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#121 BakedDank420
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Lol ju Mad?

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#122 MFDOOM1983
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[QUOTE="MFDOOM1983"]

[QUOTE="mrmusicman247"] That doesn't make sense. gaming25

"set-piece is a scene or sequence of scenes the execution of which requires serious logistical planning and considerable expenditure of money."

And how would that make it bad?

Where did i say they were bad?
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#123 gaming25
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[QUOTE="gaming25"][QUOTE="MFDOOM1983"]"set-piece is a scene or sequence of scenes the execution of which requires serious logistical planning and considerable expenditure of money."

MFDOOM1983

And how would that make it bad?

Where did i say they were bad?

So you mentioning it being a set peice was a positive connotation? Besides, you can still control the character and where he goes on the train so it isnt a "semantic". If that were the case than most scenarios in SP games are semantics.

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#124 Chutebox
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Every game is underrated and overrated. There ya go.
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#125 mrmusicman247
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[QUOTE="mrmusicman247"][QUOTE="MFDOOM1983"] semantics MFDOOM1983

That doesn't make sense.

"set-piece is a scene or sequence of scenes the execution of which requires serious logistical planning and considerable expenditure of money."

What does that mean to me? I was referring to how you were using the word "semantics". It didn't make sense in the conversation. And your connotation indicating that that set pieces are bad thing makes the post even more confusing.
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#126 GTSaiyanjin2
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I like both Uncharted games, both are 9.5 games to me.

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#127 MFDOOM1983
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[QUOTE="MFDOOM1983"][QUOTE="gaming25"] And how would that make it bad?gaming25

Where did i say they were bad?

So you mentioning it being a set peice was a positive connotation? Besides, you can still control the character and where he goes on the train so it isnt a "semantic". If that were the case than most scenarios in SP games are semantics.

Set pieces aren't limited to cut-scenes so being able to control the character is irrelevant. You said the train section wasn't a set piece, but it fits the definition of one perfectly. Especially, when you have a basic understanding of how hard it was to actually make(background isn't in a loop). The train ride/crash, collapsing building and assault on the tibet town were all set pieces.
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#128 gaming25
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[QUOTE="MFDOOM1983"][QUOTE="gaming25"]

Where did i say they were bad?MFDOOM1983

So you mentioning it being a set peice was a positive connotation? Besides, you can still control the character and where he goes on the train so it isnt a "semantic". If that were the case than most scenarios in SP games are semantics.

Set pieces aren't limited to cut-scenes so being able to control the character is irrelevant. You said the train section wasn't a set piece, but it fits the definition of one perfectly. Especially, when you have a basic understanding of how hard it was to actually make(background isn't in a loop). The train ride/crash, collapsing building and assault on the tibet town were all set pieces.

So what was the point of you bringing up that these things were set peices?
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#129 fablesway
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even if it is overrated i don't really care, i like the games so itdose not reallymatter to me

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#130 Darksiders666
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Enjoyable but overrated.

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[QUOTE="MFDOOM1983"][QUOTE="gaming25"]

So you mentioning it being a set peice was a positive connotation? Besides, you can still control the character and where he goes on the train so it isnt a "semantic". If that were the case than most scenarios in SP games are semantics.

gaming25

Set pieces aren't limited to cut-scenes so being able to control the character is irrelevant. You said the train section wasn't a set piece, but it fits the definition of one perfectly. Especially, when you have a basic understanding of how hard it was to actually make(background isn't in a loop). The train ride/crash, collapsing building and assault on the tibet town were all set pieces.

So what was the point of you bringing up that these things were set peices?

The lulz:twisted:

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#133 Lethalhazard
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UC1 was one of the worst games I've played this generation. Buggy, bad controls, you name it. UC2 was one of the best. They really worked their arse off at ND for UC2.
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#134 ManicAce
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UC2 was great, but yeah it wasn't quite as great as people made it out to be, the hype was a bit too much for any game.
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#135 UC3Drake
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Until I find a game where everything fits so well together,such as:
Graphics

Presentation

Gameplay

Story-telling

Stealth(even though its not enforced.)

Multiplayer

And Overall fun, Uncharted is nowhere near overrated nor underrated.

And besides, every game is overrated and underrated. Deal with it.
Also, WTH is with the hate against this game lately? Before it was Gears, now this.

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#136 RoOodriGowW
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Oh c'mon you're out of your mind , the story fits perfectly the adventure genre , the characters are great , graphics superb for a console game , multiplayer is fun as hell , in the stealth level it was done very well for a game whose focus isn't that , gunning is very good , taking cover , all of it mechanics are pretty good actually.

Also your argument that playing on PC rises your bar isn't true , I'm yet to see an adventure game of expression be released on PC and not on consoles , while the contrary happens quite oftenly.

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#137 incuensuocha
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There is no such thing as overrated. Every game deserves the credit and popularity it receives. Whether or not you personally like the game or not is completely beside the point. Uncharted got all the acclaim it did because it did something that a lot of people really loved. No game can be one of the highest rated Metacritic games ever by being overrated. You just don't care for it.
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#138 FPSDad1161
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I guess I would have to say it is kind of overrated, even though I hate to use that terminology. The graphics while looking fantastic, are not the second coming of Christ that everyone makes them out to be. The games were incredibly fun in the single player area, but even so I never found myself wanting to really play through them again. As for the multi in 2, I didn't get into it at all. I'd rather play Gears for my TPS fix.

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The only difference between uncharteded 1 and uncharted 2 is that u2 has better graphics and better cut scenes both games have suckish gameplay all around the only reason it's so popular is cause casuals don't like to think they want to be forced thru the game without choices and they like cut scenes
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#140 DarkLink77
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Yep, it's an incredibly overrated series, just as Naughty Dog is an overrated developer.

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#141 UC3Drake
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The only difference between uncharteded 1 and uncharted 2 is that u2 has better graphics and better cut scenes both games have suckish gameplay all around the only reason it's so popular is cause casuals don't like to think they want to be forced thru the game without choices and they like cut scenesthah-dude
..... Dude.. .. this quote is just full of fail.....

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#142 UC3Drake
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Yep, it's an incredibly overrated series, just as Naughty Dog is an overrated developer.

DarkLink77

I was waiting for you to come in 8). No harm though.

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#143 klusps
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I think this game is slightly overrated; mainly because some people is calling it the game of this generation. However despite that, I still love Uncharted 2 and it is one of the reasons why I got a PS3.

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#144 -RocBoys9489-
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It certainly is, people were hyping it to like Halo CE/ Half Life 2/ RE4 status, I just didn't feel it though it was still good.
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#145 DarkLink77
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[QUOTE="DarkLink77"]

Yep, it's an incredibly overrated series, just as Naughty Dog is an overrated developer.

UC3Drake

I was waiting for you to come in 8). No harm though.

Well, I am the resident Uncharted (among many, many other games) basher on SW. This thread wouldn't be complete without me.
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#146 UC3Drake
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[QUOTE="UC3Drake"]

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"]

Yep, it's an incredibly overrated series, just as Naughty Dog is an overrated developer.

DarkLink77

I was waiting for you to come in 8). No harm though.

Well, I am the resident Uncharted (among many, many other games) basher on SW. This thread wouldn't be complete without me.

Well, at least you're a smart basher. Thats good enough for me :D. Unlike some trolls in this thread...

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[QUOTE="thah-dude"]The only difference between uncharteded 1 and uncharted 2 is that u2 has better graphics and better cut scenes both games have suckish gameplay all around the only reason it's so popular is cause casuals don't like to think they want to be forced thru the game without choices and they like cut scenesUC3Drake

..... Dude.. .. this quote is just full of fail.....

How is it fail?
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#148 tempest91
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[QUOTE="UC3Drake"]

[QUOTE="thah-dude"]The only difference between uncharteded 1 and uncharted 2 is that u2 has better graphics and better cut scenes both games have suckish gameplay all around the only reason it's so popular is cause casuals don't like to think they want to be forced thru the game without choices and they like cut scenesthah-dude

..... Dude.. .. this quote is just full of fail.....

How is it fail?

because you don't agree with him.

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[QUOTE="DragonfireXZ95"]

[QUOTE="godsendBLISS"]no, i'm just too lazy to dissect it. but here we go...

1. the story is not bad. in fact it was hollywood worthy, one of the better storytelling attempts in gaming, with exemplary voice acting. i disagree with all flash no substance, let's reserve that for cod.

2. didn't get around to the multiplayer, so i'll withhold comment.

3. i played on hard, and it ran me longer than 8 hours. the game wasn't short to me. every game doesn't require an rpg length. it was long enough.

4. gunplay is crisp, fun, fast, and satisfying, plus the hand to hand accentuate the weaponry. the stealth sufficed, for it's not a game of stealth, for the most part. linear games don't bother me. since when does every game have to have multiple paths. it's a linear game, accept it.

5. i usually don't pay much attention to reviews, but ig and gamespot gave it a 95, while 1up gave it an 100. that's holds some weight.

godsendBLISS

Yes, it is Hollywood worthy. About as worthy as another video game movie. It's cliche, average and predictable, like most of Hollywood. You better describe the substance in it for me. Character development? I saw zilch. Predictable? Yes, very much so. Hackneyed? Yes again. I will agree on the Voice acting. I'm playing through Alan Wake right now, and the voice acting is pretty horrid in comparison with UC2.

So you didn't even play the multiplayer? Nice.

8 hours is short. Take it or leave it. Crysis was around 12 - 13 hours for most people, and that was on normal difficulty first run through. Or how about Half Life 2? Now that was a long game.

Yes, the gameplay was good, but a game can't be perfect off of those merits, and frankly, that's about the only thing going for this game. Other games have better gameplay, so how is this game as perfect as you believe it is again?

i never said the game was perfect. in regards to the multiplayer, by the time i purchased the game, the multiplayer wasn't on my agenda, as it isn't with most games. i'm a single player gamer at heart, and usually don't care too much about multiplayer, which is something else every game doesn't require. hail to single player gamers. i enjoyed the story. yeah it had some cliches, but i thought it was quite engrossing and entertaining. what kind of super character development were u looking for? what score would u have given the game?

I would have given it an 8. Definitely no where near a 9 at all. My standards are probably higher than most reviewers and many gamers in general though.
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#150 thah-dude
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[QUOTE="godsendBLISS"]

[QUOTE="DragonfireXZ95"] Yes, it is Hollywood worthy. About as worthy as another video game movie. It's cliche, average and predictable, like most of Hollywood. You better describe the substance in it for me. Character development? I saw zilch. Predictable? Yes, very much so. Hackneyed? Yes again. I will agree on the Voice acting. I'm playing through Alan Wake right now, and the voice acting is pretty horrid in comparison with UC2.

So you didn't even play the multiplayer? Nice.

8 hours is short. Take it or leave it. Crysis was around 12 - 13 hours for most people, and that was on normal difficulty first run through. Or how about Half Life 2? Now that was a long game.

Yes, the gameplay was good, but a game can't be perfect off of those merits, and frankly, that's about the only thing going for this game. Other games have better gameplay, so how is this game as perfect as you believe it is again?

DragonfireXZ95

i never said the game was perfect. in regards to the multiplayer, by the time i purchased the game, the multiplayer wasn't on my agenda, as it isn't with most games. i'm a single player gamer at heart, and usually don't care too much about multiplayer, which is something else every game doesn't require. hail to single player gamers. i enjoyed the story. yeah it had some cliches, but i thought it was quite engrossing and entertaining. what kind of super character development were u looking for? what score would u have given the game?

I would have given it an 8. Definitely no where near a 9 at all. My standards are probably higher than most reviewers and many gamers in general though.

This guy is smart.