Uncharted is overrated

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#301 Pray_to_me
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[QUOTE="Pray_to_me"]

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"] Some originality maybe?DarkLink77

Why does one get the feeling that you'd like the game more if it were a first person shooter on a Microsoft platform.

:lol: You think I'm a lemming. :lol: Now, THAT'S funny.

No I get it you're a "hermit" who happens to like Halo right. But I get the feeling you're not doing any "PC" gaming on a Mac or Linux. ;)

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#302 gaming25
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[QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="UC3Drake"]

Saying "Uncharted 2 is overrated, but by no means bad, and critics are wrong" and saying "Superman 64 is actually the best game of all time, screw the critics" are completely different things. DarkLink77
Not completely different. 1st part is opinion, 2nd part is someone stills saying the critics are wrong. Just worded differently.

Totally different. One is actually a reasonable statement. The other isn't, especially if you've played Superman 64, and I have.

Many people disagree that it is a reasonable statement.
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#303 Chutebox  Online
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Arguing opinions as facts is fun. Leads to a never ending-redundant conversation.

UC3Drake

This is S-

Oh wait, you're talking about me. :?

Nah, not just you lol.
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#304 DarkLink77
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[QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="Pray_to_me"]

Why does one get the feeling that you'd like the game more if it were a first person shooter on a Microsoft platform.

Pray_to_me

:lol: You think I'm a lemming. :lol: Now, THAT'S funny.

No I get it you're a "hermit" who happens to like Halo right. But I get the feeling you're not doing any "PC" gaming on a Mac or Linux. ;)

Why the hell would anyone game on a Mac, or any Apple product? And no, I don't game on Linux because there's no point to it. I'd have to partition my hard drive to run Windows anyway so I could play games like Crysis. Kind of a waste of time. And no, brah, I own everything from the N64 on, handhelds included.
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#305 DarkLink77
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[QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="UC3Drake"] Not completely different. 1st part is opinion, 2nd part is someone stills saying the critics are wrong. Just worded differently.

UC3Drake

Totally different. One is actually a reasonable statement. The other isn't, especially if you've played Superman 64, and I have.

I ... I have to be reading your comment wrong... Are you saying S64 is a good game? Please say no to the question...

No, I'm saying that saying Superman 64 is the best game ever is not a reasonable statement. Saying Uncharted 2, while good, is overrated and not worthy of being in the top ten is much more reasonable.
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#306 DarkLink77
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[QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="UC3Drake"] Not completely different. 1st part is opinion, 2nd part is someone stills saying the critics are wrong. Just worded differently.

gaming25

Totally different. One is actually a reasonable statement. The other isn't, especially if you've played Superman 64, and I have.

Many people disagree that it is a reasonable statement.

Then those people need to play better games.

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#307 KevinnButlerNPK
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1.) Characters acting like friends? Isnt there a betrayal in MGS4 , GTA4, Bioshock, and Half Life 2? I dont see your point.

2.) The only game I know where the enemies reload in cover is GeOW. Uncharted enemies have limited space to work with.

3.)He did find the city -_-.

4.)Any other unjustified hate you have for the game?

@DarkLink It's the 8th highest rated game of all time. I find it hard to believe people will be like "Lol wut iz chartedUn?"

UC3Drake

So you agree the story was trite and cliched and too many logic gaffs to call it anything above laughable. No one in their right mind is going to stand out in the open and reload in a firefigt, except in Uncharted 1 and 2.

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#308 KevinnButlerNPK
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[QUOTE="gaming25"][QUOTE="DarkLink77"] Totally different. One is actually a reasonable statement. The other isn't, especially if you've played Superman 64, and I have.DarkLink77

Many people disagree that it is a reasonable statement.

Then those people need to play better games.

They are to busy watching pointless videogame awards shows and reading reviews to allow them to develop their own opinion...

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#309 UC3Drake
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[QUOTE="UC3Drake"]

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"] Totally different. One is actually a reasonable statement. The other isn't, especially if you've played Superman 64, and I have.DarkLink77

I ... I have to be reading your comment wrong... Are you saying S64 is a good game? Please say no to the question...

No, I'm saying that saying Superman 64 is the best game ever is not a reasonable statement. Saying Uncharted 2, while good, is overrated and not worthy of being in the top ten is much more reasonable.

Well you have to respect that person's opinion right? No matter how crazy it may seem. Which is why I keep the friends on my friend list who play CoD 24/7, knowing they will buy the next one like new bread. Just sit back and let people play what they play. As long as people stop believing Fact=Opinion, this topic will go on forever.

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#310 Cranler
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uncharted has great cover style combat. simple fact. youre taste limited if you dont like it

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#311 DarkLink77
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[QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="UC3Drake"]I ... I have to be reading your comment wrong... Are you saying S64 is a good game? Please say no to the question...

UC3Drake

No, I'm saying that saying Superman 64 is the best game ever is not a reasonable statement. Saying Uncharted 2, while good, is overrated and not worthy of being in the top ten is much more reasonable.

Well you have to respect that person's opinion right? No matter how crazy it may seem. Which is why I keep the friends on my friend list who play CoD 24/7, knowing they will buy the next one like new bread. Just sit back and let people play what they play. As long as people stop believing Fact=Opinion, this topic will go on forever.

I respect everyone's opinion. People can play whatever they like. I'm not going to stop them from doing something that allows them to have fun, and I'm not going to say games I don't enjoy aren't good games just because I don't like them (Bethesda titles post-Morrowind, the recent Tekken games, Capcom titles in general save Resident Evil, etc). However, I think in an objective argument, it's a reasonable stance to take. Subjectively, if you think UC2 is the best game ever, more power to you. Enjoy your game. Have fun. Don't let me stop you.
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#312 UC3Drake
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[QUOTE="UC3Drake"]

1.) Characters acting like friends? Isnt there a betrayal in MGS4 , GTA4, Bioshock, and Half Life 2? I dont see your point.

2.) The only game I know where the enemies reload in cover is GeOW. Uncharted enemies have limited space to work with.

3.)He did find the city -_-.

4.)Any other unjustified hate you have for the game?

@DarkLink It's the 8th highest rated game of all time. I find it hard to believe people will be like "Lol wut iz chartedUn?"

KevinnButlerNPK

So you agree the story was trite and cliched and too many logic gaffs to call it anything above laughable. No one in their right mind is going to stand out in the open and reload in a firefigt, except in Uncharted 1 and 2.

Story was cliche, but still good. No doubt about that. I suggest you play Mercenaries, Black Ops, Crysis, and many other shooters where they reload out in the open. Halo as well.

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#313 UC3Drake
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[QUOTE="UC3Drake"]

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"] No, I'm saying that saying Superman 64 is the best game ever is not a reasonable statement. Saying Uncharted 2, while good, is overrated and not worthy of being in the top ten is much more reasonable.DarkLink77

Well you have to respect that person's opinion right? No matter how crazy it may seem. Which is why I keep the friends on my friend list who play CoD 24/7, knowing they will buy the next one like new bread. Just sit back and let people play what they play. As long as people stop believing Fact=Opinion, this topic will go on forever.

I respect everyone's opinion. People can play whatever they like. I'm not going to stop them from doing something that allows them to have fun, and I'm not going to say games I don't enjoy aren't good games just because I don't like them (Bethesda titles post-Morrowind, the recent Tekken games, Capcom titles in general save Resident Evil, etc). However, I think in an objective argument, it's a reasonable stance to take. Subjectively, if you think UC2 is the best game ever, more power to you. Enjoy your game. Have fun. Don't let me stop you.

Yay! Common ground! And it only took 14 pages :D. Let gaming reign and evolve.

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#315 vincent380
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Uncharted 2 is easily one of the best games i have ever played. period The characters dialog alone makes this game great. And the ending is one of the funniest ive seen in a long time.
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#316 bri360
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Haha its hilarious how every game that scores over a 9 is instantly labeled overrated. Maybe if you played it instead of trolling, you would know this.

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#317 antifanboyftw
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[QUOTE="gaming25"][QUOTE="DarkLink77"] Totally different. One is actually a reasonable statement. The other isn't, especially if you've played Superman 64, and I have.DarkLink77

Many people disagree that it is a reasonable statement.

Then those people need to play better games.

Ok. Name a better cover-based tps for the ps3.
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#318 DarkLink77
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[QUOTE="DarkLink77"]

[QUOTE="gaming25"] Many people disagree that it is a reasonable statement.antifanboyftw

Then those people need to play better games.

Ok. Name a better cover-based tps for the ps3.

Why impose limitations like platform and genre? We're just talking about games in general.
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#319 antifanboyftw
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[QUOTE="antifanboyftw"][QUOTE="DarkLink77"] Then those people need to play better games.

DarkLink77

Ok. Name a better cover-based tps for the ps3.

Why impose limitations like platform and genre? We're just talking about games in general.

so you can't. the limitation is that that is what the game is. (actually uncharted also has platforming) you keep saying that there are better games, yet you can't name any. and comparisons of different genres are stupid. how do you know if it is overrated if you can't think of a legitmate comparison? go ahead and use other platforms now but same genre. (all i can think of off the top of my head this gen is gears of war and maybe GRAW on 360)

but that is beyond the point. you haters' main argument that the game isn't good just because of the story. any problems with the gameplay or features, since they should be where most of the rating comes in? we all know uncharted is no epic story. the makers of the game simply compared it to "a summer blockbuster" in that what it really is about is the action. but it gets the job done. it entertains people. it doesn;t bore with an overly long and drawn out campaign. the other points i've seen against it are also ridiculous. reloading out in the open? you can and should do that behind cover. and that happens in any shooter. the game isn't original? of course, but does it need to be? it takes many great mechanics from various different games to provide a solid package. MP is a blast and is being supported by the devs quite well (even has fun little holiday events) theater and machinima mode for those kinds of people, and takes a concept like cover in tps and combines it with platforming to create a unique hybrid of gameplay.

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#320 tagyhag
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Uncharted was a good game, nothing more. Uncharted 2 was a fantastic game. But it is pretty quickly becoming overrated, I cringe when I see it in the personal top 5 best video games of all time lists. (Subjectiveness blah blah blah)
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#321 BakedDank420
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Haha its hilarious how every game that scores over a 9 is instantly labeled overrated. Maybe if you played it instead of trolling, you would know this.

bri360

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#322 DarkLink77
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[QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="antifanboyftw"] Ok. Name a better cover-based tps for the ps3. antifanboyftw

Why impose limitations like platform and genre? We're just talking about games in general.

so you can't. the limitation is that that is what the game is. (actually uncharted also has platforming) you keep saying that there are better games, yet you can't name any. and comparisons of different genres are stupid. how do you know if it is overrated if you can't think of a legitmate comparison? go ahead and use other platforms now but same genre. (all i can think of off the top of my head this gen is gears of war and maybe GRAW on 360)

Those are stupid and arbitrary limitations that have nothing to do with what this discussion is about (the fact that the game is critically the 6th best game ever on GR).

A game doesn't have to be in the same genre to be the better game.

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#323 meetroid8
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[QUOTE="antifanboyftw"]

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"] Why impose limitations like platform and genre? We're just talking about games in general.DarkLink77

so you can't. the limitation is that that is what the game is. (actually uncharted also has platforming) you keep saying that there are better games, yet you can't name any. and comparisons of different genres are stupid. how do you know if it is overrated if you can't think of a legitmate comparison? go ahead and use other platforms now but same genre. (all i can think of off the top of my head this gen is gears of war and maybe GRAW on 360)

Those are stupid and arbitrary limitations that have nothing to do with what this discussion is about (the fact that the game is critically the 6th best game ever on GR).

A game doesn't have to be in the same genre to be the better game.

If it is in a different genre then there are no real points of comparison to judge them on, two things have to be similar in order for one to be objectively better than the other. Though I don't see any reason why they would have to be on the same system.