Uncharted is overrated

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In the way it occured it was one of the best. You were holding fighting sequences while clinging on and up to a car, and then jump before it blows up.

[QUOTE="gaming25"] Ok. But he thought it was incredible. What's your point?Stevo_the_gamer

But why did you mention it twice?gaming25

[QUOTE="gaming25"]But why did you mention it twice?Stevo_the_gamer

My bad. I didnt understand your comment at first.

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[QUOTE="DarkLink77"]

No comment as I haven't played BC2 on PC, but Reach does have the core game beat in a lot of ways (feature-wise). Personally, I think either game deserved the nod as both were excellent, so it doesn't bug me. ME2 better than NV, though? Hell no. BioWare wishes they were half the RPG devs Obsidian is.DarkLink77

Why would they give a game RPG of the year that got a 7.5? Also, KOTOR says hi.

I'm not sure what games you actually played, but the plot and story of KOTOR are far better than KOTOR 2. The writing can be argued, which I think still comes out in KOTOR's favor, but at least it can be argued. The other two, I'm not sure at all how you can come to that conclusion, especially in terms of how the story was told between the two and the fact that most of the story in KOTOR 2 seemed like filler to me. Maybe the ship can malfunction/crash again to kill some more time.....ugh

[QUOTE="gaming25"]

In the way it occured it was one of the best. You were holding fighting sequences while clinging on and up to a car, and then jump before it blows up.

Stevo_the_gamer

You barely remember the freakin' Train Scene?????

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="gaming25"]

Why would they give a game RPG of the year that got a 7.5? Also, KOTOR says hi.

tempest91

I'm not sure what games you actually played, but the plot and story of KOTOR are far better than KOTOR 2. The writing can be argued, which I think still comes out in KOTOR's favor, but at least it can be argued. The other two, I'm not sure at all how you can come to that conclusion, especially in terms of how the story was told between the two and the fact that most of the story in KOTOR 2 seemed like filler to me. Maybe the ship can malfunction/crash again to kill some more time.....ugh

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[QUOTE="gaming25"]

In the way it occured it was one of the best. You were holding fighting sequences while clinging on and up to a car, and then jump before it blows up.

You barely remember the freakin' Train Scene?????

You barely remember the freakin' Train Scene?????

LegatoSkyheart

I think he meant the vehicle scene afterwards.gaming25

Oh! That scene, Yeah that scene was forgetable.

[QUOTE="tempest91"]

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"] Because it was a better RPG than Mass Effect 2, which was a TPS? KOTOR II stomps the original into the ground in terms of plot, story, and combat system.DarkLink77

I'm not sure what games you actually played, but the plot and story of KOTOR are far better than KOTOR 2. The writing can be argued, which I think still comes out in KOTOR's favor, but at least it can be argued. The other two, I'm not sure at all how you can come to that conclusion, especially in terms of how the story was told between the two and the fact that most of the story in KOTOR 2 seemed like filler to me. Maybe the ship can malfunction/crash again to kill some more time.....ugh

Better combat, I agree, but I really can't see how a story, half of which is filler, can be better than one that still lives on as one of the best in recent wrpg's, and the second being immediately forgettable. I guess that's what opinions are for though.

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="tempest91"]

I'm not sure what games you actually played, but the plot and story of KOTOR are far better than KOTOR 2. The writing can be argued, which I think still comes out in KOTOR's favor, but at least it can be argued. The other two, I'm not sure at all how you can come to that conclusion, especially in terms of how the story was told between the two and the fact that most of the story in KOTOR 2 seemed like filler to me. Maybe the ship can malfunction/crash again to kill some more time.....ugh

tempest91

Better combat, I agree, but I really can't see how a story, half of which is filler, can be better than one that still lives on as one of the best in recent wrpg's, and the second being immediately forgettable. I guess that's what opinions are for though.

Yes, it is. Production values are obviously brilliant, but they don't make the game.

Still pretty good, though.

Uncharted 1 is overrated.

Uncharted 2 is great.

Uncharted 3 might be both, hopefully not overrated.

I love how people love to bash Sony exclusives saying their overrated etc. Yet I rarely see topics bashing the 360 exclusives. If you wanna get technical none of the 360 exclusives are original or mind blowing. Of the four heavy hitters ( halo, gears, fable, forza) I find all of them to be overrated. Not bad games by any means just overrated in my book. ShadowNinja87

I love how people love to bash Sony exclusives saying their overrated etc. Yet I rarely see topics bashing the 360 exclusives. If you wanna get technical none of the 360 exclusives are original or mind blowing. Of the four heavy hitters ( halo, gears, fable, forza) I find all of them to be overrated. Not bad games by any means just overrated in my book. ShadowNinja87

I love how people love to bash Sony exclusives saying their overrated etc. Yet I rarely see topics bashing the 360 exclusives. If you wanna get technical none of the 360 exclusives are original or mind blowing. Of the four heavy hitters ( halo, gears, fable, forza) I find all of them to be overrated. Not bad games by any means just overrated in my book. ShadowNinja87

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[QUOTE="Badosh"] probably why alot of people say it's overrated....DragonfireXZ95

Yeah, alot of people who didn't enjoy the game as much as the award givers themselves. Poor arguement, because if I was to say HL2 is over-rated, then I could just say all those awards prove it is, when really it is a masterpiece

Except gaming has changed since then. Now all you get is advertising hype and budgets that dictate game awards. It's turned into a huge farce and is just as bad as the Academy Awards or the Grammies. It's a huge joke now.

Just look at Gamespot awards for instance. Halo: Reach over Bad Company 2? That's a joke.

Mass Effect 3 over Fallout: New Vegas? Another joke.

How the heck is Halo Reach getting an award over a joke? Halo Reach is an absoultly great game with a great campaign (Bc2s one was average at best) Great online (gotta say BC2's one was better for me but still) Halo has got Forge, Theatar mode. It's a more complete package.

As for Mass Effect 2 ( you mean 2 right?) getting an award over New Vegas is hardly a joke. I got New Vegas at launch, for me it was too buggy. It had some great writing compared to Fallout 3, but Mass Effect functioned much better as a game. Whether you prefer BC2 over Reach or whatever is your opinion, but Gamespot had plenty of reason to rate it higher than Bc2.

Anyways, us Pc gamers are getting BF3 with 64 players (rumours the PC build can handle 256 players). So I think best MP game is most definatly in the bag in PC gamers favour

Medicore story? NO It's not overrated, it's just not your type.sethman410

Yeah 'abyssmal ripoff of Indiana Jones with cookie cutter characters' best describes U2....

This thread is still going.

[QUOTE="sethman410"]Medicore story? NO It's not overrated, it's just not your type.KevinnButlerNPK

Yeah 'abyssmal ripoff of Indiana Jones with cookie cutter characters' best describes U2....

I like games that give me that Tomb Raider vide (the PS1 ones). And UC2 has succeeded in that.
While the story is the typical bad guy wanting to conquer the world...it is at least told in a non-cliché way.
Gunplay is weak. Combat is decent. Stealth is fun. Platforming/puzzleing is great. Area's great.
Maybe it got too much hype but it's definately a good game.

I like games that give me that Tomb Raider vide (the PS1 ones). And UC2 has succeeded in that.
While the story is the typical bad guy wanting to conquer the world...it is at least told in a non-cliché way.
Gunplay is weak. Combat is decent. Stealth is fun. Platforming/puzzleing is great. Area's great.
Maybe it got too much hype but it's definately a good game.

Locutus_Picard

Non cliched way? WTH are you talking about. The whole game is a poor cliche, they needed the Comic Biik guy from the Simpsoins to point them out, Mad Russioan guy wanting to find artifact CHECK, characters that act like friends and then turn CHECK, Stupid Eenmy soldiers that reload out in the open CHECK,The old explorer that could never find the ancient city, yet somehow has a book that tells you in detail where to find it CHECK. This story was written on an acid trip watching Indiana Jones movies...I still would like someone supporting this game to explaion to me how a machine gun ends up appearing in an ancient temple that hasn't been occupied in hundrads of years...

In this gen, games have increasingly become more cinematic. games that present a cinematic experience and successfully weave it into the gameplay are what will truly define this gen. games like uncharted are the future of gaming. uncharted 1 and 2 (2 especially) are going to be the games that are remembered from this gen.

In this gen, games have increasingly become more cinematic. games that present a cinematic experience and successfully weave it into the gameplay are what will truly define this gen. games like uncharted are the future of gaming. uncharted 1 and 2 (2 especially) are going to be the games that are remembered from this gen.

arbitor365

[QUOTE="Locutus_Picard"]

I like games that give me that Tomb Raider vide (the PS1 ones). And UC2 has succeeded in that.
While the story is the typical bad guy wanting to conquer the world...it is at least told in a non-cliché way.
Gunplay is weak. Combat is decent. Stealth is fun. Platforming/puzzleing is great. Area's great.
Maybe it got too much hype but it's definately a good game.

KevinnButlerNPK

Non cliched way? WTH are you talking about. The whole game is a poor cliche, they needed the Comic Biik guy from the Simpsoins to point them out, Mad Russioan guy wanting to find artifact CHECK, characters that act like friends and then turn CHECK, Stupid Eenmy soldiers that reload out in the open CHECK,The old explorer that could never find the ancient city, yet somehow has a book that tells you in detail where to find it CHECK. This story was written on an acid trip watching Indiana Jones movies...I still would like someone supporting this game to explaion to me how a machine gun ends up appearing in an ancient temple that hasn't been occupied in hundrads of years...

2.) The only game I know where the enemies reload in cover is GeOW. Uncharted enemies have limited space to work with.

3.)He did find the city -_-.

4.)Any other unjustified hate you have for the game?

@DarkLink It's the 8th highest rated game of all time. I find it hard to believe people will be like "Lol wut iz chartedUn?"

[QUOTE="arbitor365"]

In this gen, games have increasingly become more cinematic. games that present a cinematic experience and successfully weave it into the gameplay are what will truly define this gen. games like uncharted are the future of gaming. uncharted 1 and 2 (2 especially) are going to be the games that are remembered from this gen.

DarkLink77

dont let the door hit you on the way out

@UC3Drake And it totally doesn't deserve to be in the top 100, let alone the top 10. People will forget because all it has going for it is production values.DarkLink77

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"]

[QUOTE="arbitor365"]

In this gen, games have increasingly become more cinematic. games that present a cinematic experience and successfully weave it into the gameplay are what will truly define this gen. games like uncharted are the future of gaming. uncharted 1 and 2 (2 especially) are going to be the games that are remembered from this gen.

arbitor365

dont let the door hit you on the way out

@UC3Drake And it totally doesn't deserve to be in the top 100, let alone the top 10. People will forget because all it has going for it is production values.DarkLink77

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"]@UC3Drake And it totally doesn't deserve to be in the top 100, let alone the top 10. People will forget because all it has going for it is production values.UC3Drake

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"]@UC3Drake And it totally doesn't deserve to be in the top 100, let alone the top 10. People will forget because all it has going for it is production values.gaming25

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[QUOTE="DarkLink77"]@UC3Drake And it totally doesn't deserve to be in the top 100, let alone the top 10. People will forget because all it has going for it is production values.DarkLink77

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="UC3Drake"]Is that a fact or opinion? Since 120 reviews disagree with you.

UC3Drake

Arguing opinions as facts is fun. Leads to a never ending-redundant conversation.

Arguing opinions as facts is fun. Leads to a never ending-redundant conversation.

Chutebox

Oh wait, you're talking about me. :?

[QUOTE="gaming25"][QUOTE="DarkLink77"]@UC3Drake And it totally doesn't deserve to be in the top 100, let alone the top 10. People will forget because all it has going for it is production values.DarkLink77

Why does one get the feeling that you'd like the game more if it were a first person shooter on a Microsoft platform.

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[QUOTE="DarkLink77"] It's pretty much a fact. I don't care what reviewers think. They also thought MW2 was a great game.DarkLink77

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="gaming25"] What else did it need? The game is based off of movies, thats why it was done that way.Pray_to_me

Why does one get the feeling that you'd like the game more if it were a first person shooter on a Microsoft platform.

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="UC3Drake"]They also thought Superman 64 is the worst game ever created. Does that mean Superman 64 is one of the best games ever made?

UC3Drake

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[QUOTE="DarkLink77"] Saying "Uncharted 2 is overrated, but by no means bad, and critics are wrong" and saying "Superman 64 is actually the best game of all time, screw the critics" are completely different things. DarkLink77