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#201 DragonfireXZ95
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[QUOTE="DragonfireXZ95"]

[QUOTE="UnrealLegend"]

Uncharted is Overrated

Killzoneis Overrated

MGS4is Overrated

Halois Overrated

Gears of Waris Overrated

CoDis Overrated

Elder Scrolls is Overrrated

Vanquishis Overrated

Resistanceis Overrated

See how easy it is to use the word "overrated"?

Medicore story? Perhaps, but the dialogue and characters more than make up for that.

Way too linear? You must be kidding. Uncharted is not Just Cause 2. All shooters are linear.

Boring combat? I disagree, but I guess this is a matter of opinion.

I do think Uncharted 2 is a bit overrated, but those were some pretty weak points.

UC3Drake

Actually, your whole list is correct except for Vanquish, which is kind of ironic.

Did you really just say all shooters are linear? /facepalm

I need some elaboration.Other than Half Life 2, Just Cause, and Crysis(which is meh btw), are there any other non-linear shooters? Not a joke post .

The whole Stalker series, Hitman series, Grand Theft auto series, Far Cry 1 and 2, Deus Ex.... There are tons of non-linear shooter games. I love how you throw the meh comment in at Crysis too. Gotta love the fanboyism in a "non-joke" post.
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#202 berserker2389
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[QUOTE="thah-dude"]Mediocre story no Way to linear no Boring combat bad stealth no It's just Overrated

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#203 gaming25
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[QUOTE="Badosh"] probably why alot of people say it's overrated....DragonfireXZ95

Yeah, alot of people who didn't enjoy the game as much as the award givers themselves. Poor arguement, because if I was to say HL2 is over-rated, then I could just say all those awards prove it is, when really it is a masterpiece

Except gaming has changed since then. Now all you get is advertising hype and budgets that dictate game awards. It's turned into a huge farce and is just as bad as the Academy Awards or the Grammies. It's a huge joke now.

Just look at Gamespot awards for instance. Halo: Reach over Bad Company 2? That's a joke.

Mass Effect 3 over Fallout: New Vegas? Another joke.

Halo Reach is a great game. And do you seriously think that they would give it to the glitchfest that was New Vegas, especially after they gave it a 7.5?

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#204 DarkLink77
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[QUOTE="gaming25"] No they arent. It is the probably the epitome of what cinematics are in a video game, which is why it is an amazing game.gaming25

So the cut-scenes are good. Big freakin' whoop. They're flash in the pan titles. There is absolutely nothing unique about them.

The cutscenes? Who said anything about the cutscenes?

You said "the epitome of cinematics in a video game." Perhaps you meant "the cinematic experience," but as worded now, it sounds like you're talking about cinematics, or cutscenes.
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#205 DragonfireXZ95
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[QUOTE="DragonfireXZ95"]

[QUOTE="OB-47"]

Yeah, alot of people who didn't enjoy the game as much as the award givers themselves. Poor arguement, because if I was to say HL2 is over-rated, then I could just say all those awards prove it is, when really it is a masterpiece

gaming25

Except gaming has changed since then. Now all you get is advertising hype and budgets that dictate game awards. It's turned into a huge farce and is just as bad as the Academy Awards or the Grammies. It's a huge joke now.

Just look at Gamespot awards for instance. Halo: Reach over Bad Company 2? That's a joke.

Mass Effect 3 over Fallout: New Vegas? Another joke.

Halo Reach is regarded as a great game. And do you seriously think that they would give it to the glitchfest that was New Vegas, especially after they gave it a 7.5? Mass Effect 2 easily won best RPG nearly everywhere last year, because it was a great game.

Bad Company 2 is a better shooter still, and should have gotten the award.

New Vegas is a better RPG, despite the glitches. You really don't know RPG's very well if you don't realize that. And you're wrong, New Vegas got an 8.5 on PC.

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#206 DarkLink77
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[QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="UC3Drake"] Um... I thought it was overrated o.o?

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It is. Anyone who legitimately thinks Uncharted 2 is the sixth best game ever made needs to play batter games, but that doesn't mean it's bad.

In your post , you said it did everything very well. I'm wondering how can it do everything well, yet be overrated? Unless you meant presentation wise only?

And Uncharted 2 IS teh bestest geame evur kreeted.

I meant presentation.
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#207 gaming25
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[QUOTE="gaming25"][QUOTE="DarkLink77"] So the cut-scenes are good. Big freakin' whoop. They're flash in the pan titles. There is absolutely nothing unique about them.

DarkLink77

The cutscenes? Who said anything about the cutscenes?

You said "the epitome of cinematics in a video game." Perhaps you meant "the cinematic experience," but as worded now, it sounds like you're talking about cinematics, or cutscenes.

The whole experience was like a movie. Its what most of the reviews say.

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#208 Wolfetan
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I loved Uncharted 1 not so much Uncharted 2

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#209 DarkLink77
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[QUOTE="gaming25"][QUOTE="DragonfireXZ95"]

Except gaming has changed since then. Now all you get is advertising hype and budgets that dictate game awards. It's turned into a huge farce and is just as bad as the Academy Awards or the Grammies. It's a huge joke now.

Just look at Gamespot awards for instance. Halo: Reach over Bad Company 2? That's a joke.

Mass Effect 3 over Fallout: New Vegas? Another joke.

DragonfireXZ95

Halo Reach is regarded as a great game. And do you seriously think that they would give it to the glitchfest that was New Vegas, especially after they gave it a 7.5? Mass Effect 2 easily won best RPG nearly everywhere last year, because it was a great game.

New Vegas is a better RPG, despite the glitches. You really don't know RPG's very well if you don't realize that.

Reach IS better than BC2, though. At least on consoles, and especially in the single player department.

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#210 DarkLink77
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[QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="gaming25"] The cutscenes? Who said anything about the cutscenes?gaming25

You said "the epitome of cinematics in a video game." Perhaps you meant "the cinematic experience," but as worded now, it sounds like you're talking about cinematics, or cutscenes.

The whole experience was like a movie. Its what most of the reviews say.

So what if it's like a movie? That doesn't make it a better game than a game that's not "cinematic." I'm sick of game developers trying to make films.
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[QUOTE="DragonfireXZ95"][QUOTE="gaming25"] Halo Reach is regarded as a great game. And do you seriously think that they would give it to the glitchfest that was New Vegas, especially after they gave it a 7.5? Mass Effect 2 easily won best RPG nearly everywhere last year, because it was a great game.DarkLink77

New Vegas is a better RPG, despite the glitches. You really don't know RPG's very well if you don't realize that.

Reach IS better than BC2, though. At least on consoles, and especially in the single player department.

Yes. but the awards are spread throughout the PC and console versions. And the PC version of BC2 is better than Reach.
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#212 UC3Drake
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[QUOTE="UC3Drake"]

[QUOTE="DragonfireXZ95"]

Actually, your whole list is correct except for Vanquish, which is kind of ironic.

Did you really just say all shooters are linear? /facepalm

DragonfireXZ95

I need some elaboration.Other than Half Life 2, Just Cause, and Crysis(which is meh btw), are there any other non-linear shooters? Not a joke post .

The whole Stalker series, Hitman series, Grand Theft auto series, Far Cry 1 and 2, Deus Ex.... There are tons of non-linear shooter games. I love how you throw the meh comment in at Crysis too. Gotta love the fanboyism in a "non-joke" post.

To first part of post, thanks for the clarification. To 2nd part, how is it fanboyish? I just dont like Crysis and dont see how it got high scores. I understand HL2 and JC scores though.

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The story was cheesy science fiction, just like the first and I didn't like it. It is just the presentation that is amazing. The graphics are amazing. The single player action sequences are hectic and right out of a hollywood blockbuster. If it had a more intriguing storylines like say Assassins Creed or Prince of Perisa (SoT trilogy), then the game would be pretty perfect. Drakan11

This is NOT OK dude. Ok you can say Uncharted 2 is crap and all that but DON'T EVER SAY THIS. Assassins Creed (2 & brotherhood) has the worst "story" anyone has ever concieved including any thought coming from any brain of any living creauture during the history of existence. It's 10x worse than The Tale of Scrotie McBoogerballs.

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#214 gaming25
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[QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="UC3Drake"]

It is. Anyone who legitimately thinks Uncharted 2 is the sixth best game ever made needs to play batter games, but that doesn't mean it's bad.DarkLink77
In your post , you said it did everything very well. I'm wondering how can it do everything well, yet be overrated? Unless you meant presentation wise only?

And Uncharted 2 IS teh bestest geame evur kreeted.

I meant presentation.

The shooting mechanics became known as the ideal shooting mechanics for a 3rd person shooter, and manage to polish the Gears/RE formula for shooting to a science. And the game world was extemely immersive. How can you say that it wasnt a masterpiece?
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#215 DarkLink77
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[QUOTE="DarkLink77"]

[QUOTE="DragonfireXZ95"] New Vegas is a better RPG, despite the glitches. You really don't know RPG's very well if you don't realize that.DragonfireXZ95

Reach IS better than BC2, though. At least on consoles, and especially in the single player department.

Yes. but the awards are spread throughout the PC and console versions. And the PC version of BC2 is better than Reach.

No comment as I haven't played BC2 on PC, but Reach does have the core game beat in a lot of ways (feature-wise). Personally, I think either game deserved the nod as both were excellent, so it doesn't bug me. ME2 better than NV, though? Hell no. BioWare wishes they were half the RPG dev. Obsidian is.

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[QUOTE="DragonfireXZ95"][QUOTE="UC3Drake"]I need some elaboration.Other than Half Life 2, Just Cause, and Crysis(which is meh btw), are there any other non-linear shooters? Not a joke post .

UC3Drake

The whole Stalker series, Hitman series, Grand Theft auto series, Far Cry 1 and 2, Deus Ex.... There are tons of non-linear shooter games. I love how you throw the meh comment in at Crysis too. Gotta love the fanboyism in a "non-joke" post.

To first part of post, thanks for the clarification. To 2nd part, how is it fanboyish? I just dont like Crysis and dont see how it got high scores. I understand HL2 and JC scores though.

If you don't understand how it got the high reviews, then you weren't using your creativity when/if you played it. It's understandable since you didn't even realize that all of those non-linear shooters exist.
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#217 DragonfireXZ95
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[QUOTE="DragonfireXZ95"][QUOTE="DarkLink77"] Reach IS better than BC2, though. At least on consoles, and especially in the single player department.

DarkLink77

Yes. but the awards are spread throughout the PC and console versions. And the PC version of BC2 is better than Reach.

No comment as I haven't played BC2 on PC, but Reach does have the core game beat in a lot of ways (feature-wise). Personally, I think either game deserved the nod as both were excellent, so it doesn't bug me. ME2 better than NV, though? Hell no. BioWare wishes they were half the RPG dev. Obsidian is.

I would agree with you that Reach is probably better on the consoles. But the PC version of BC2 has 32 players, server browsers, less lag, better graphics/controls, etc. It really is a lot more chaotic and crazy on the PC version.
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#218 gaming25
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[QUOTE="DragonfireXZ95"][QUOTE="DarkLink77"] Reach IS better than BC2, though. At least on consoles, and especially in the single player department.

DarkLink77

Yes. but the awards are spread throughout the PC and console versions. And the PC version of BC2 is better than Reach.

No comment as I haven't played BC2 on PC, but Reach does have the core game beat in a lot of ways (feature-wise). Personally, I think either game deserved the nod as both were excellent, so it doesn't bug me. ME2 better than NV, though? Hell no. BioWare wishes they were half the RPG devs Obsidian is.

Why would they give a game RPG of the year that got a 7.5? Also, KOTOR says hi.

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#219 DarkLink77
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[QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="UC3Drake"]In your post , you said it did everything very well. I'm wondering how can it do everything well, yet be overrated? Unless you meant presentation wise only?

And Uncharted 2 IS teh bestest geame evur kreeted.

gaming25

I meant presentation.

The shooting mechanics became known as the ideal shooting mechanics for a 3rd person shooter, and manage to polish the Gears/RE formula for shooting to a science. And the game world was extemely immersive. How can you say that it wasnt a masterpiece?

Vanquish has much, much better gameplay, so that statement is false. And oh, I don't know, because the game isn't a masterpiece? There's nothing special about it. Masterpeices have to be able to stand the test of time. UC2 isn't going to, because all it has is presentation, and once another game does it better, no one will care.

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[QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="DragonfireXZ95"] Yes. but the awards are spread throughout the PC and console versions. And the PC version of BC2 is better than Reach.gaming25

No comment as I haven't played BC2 on PC, but Reach does have the core game beat in a lot of ways (feature-wise). Personally, I think either game deserved the nod as both were excellent, so it doesn't bug me. ME2 better than NV, though? Hell no. BioWare wishes they were half the RPG devs Obsidian is.

Why would they give a game RPG of the year that got a 7.5? Also, KOTOR says hi.

Nice job of ignoring my post. New Vegas got an 8.5 on PC. Maybe you should research before making such misinformed statements.
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#221 DarkLink77
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[QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="DragonfireXZ95"] Yes. but the awards are spread throughout the PC and console versions. And the PC version of BC2 is better than Reach.gaming25

No comment as I haven't played BC2 on PC, but Reach does have the core game beat in a lot of ways (feature-wise). Personally, I think either game deserved the nod as both were excellent, so it doesn't bug me. ME2 better than NV, though? Hell no. BioWare wishes they were half the RPG devs Obsidian is.

Why would they give a game RPG of the year that got a 7.5? Also, KOTOR says hi.

Because it was a better RPG than Mass Effect 2, which was a TPS? KOTOR II stomps the original into the ground in terms of plot, story, and combat system.
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#222 gaming25
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[QUOTE="gaming25"][QUOTE="DarkLink77"] I meant presentation. DarkLink77

The shooting mechanics became known as the ideal shooting mechanics for a 3rd person shooter, and manage to polish the Gears/RE formula for shooting to a science. And the game world was extemely immersive. How can you say that it wasnt a masterpiece?

Vanquish has much, much better gameplay, so that statement is false. And oh, I don't know, because the game isn't a masterpiece? There's nothing special about it. Masterpeices have to be able to stand the test of time. UC2 isn't going to, because all it has is presentation, and once another game does it better, no one will care.

Does Chrono Trigger, or Final Fantasy 1 stand the test of time? What about Fallout 1, would you play that game again?
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[QUOTE="UC3Drake"]

[QUOTE="DragonfireXZ95"] The whole Stalker series, Hitman series, Grand Theft auto series, Far Cry 1 and 2, Deus Ex.... There are tons of non-linear shooter games. I love how you throw the meh comment in at Crysis too. Gotta love the fanboyism in a "non-joke" post.DragonfireXZ95

To first part of post, thanks for the clarification. To 2nd part, how is it fanboyish? I just dont like Crysis and dont see how it got high scores. I understand HL2 and JC scores though.

If you don't understand how it got the high reviews, then you weren't using your creativity when/if you played it. It's understandable since you didn't even realize that all of those non-linear shooters exist.

I knew they existed (owned the heck out of GTA, Hitman, and Far Cry). And sure Crysis has creativity, but its not engaging enough for me to replay it again. Not saying its a horrible game, just meh.

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[QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="gaming25"]

No comment as I haven't played BC2 on PC, but Reach does have the core game beat in a lot of ways (feature-wise). Personally, I think either game deserved the nod as both were excellent, so it doesn't bug me. ME2 better than NV, though? Hell no. BioWare wishes they were half the RPG devs Obsidian is.DarkLink77

Why would they give a game RPG of the year that got a 7.5? Also, KOTOR says hi.

KOTOR II stomps the original into the ground in terms of plot, story, and combat system.

You are definitely in the minority who thinks that.
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#225 DarkLink77
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[QUOTE="DarkLink77"]

[QUOTE="DragonfireXZ95"] Yes. but the awards are spread throughout the PC and console versions. And the PC version of BC2 is better than Reach.DragonfireXZ95

No comment as I haven't played BC2 on PC, but Reach does have the core game beat in a lot of ways (feature-wise). Personally, I think either game deserved the nod as both were excellent, so it doesn't bug me. ME2 better than NV, though? Hell no. BioWare wishes they were half the RPG dev. Obsidian is.

I would agree with you that Reach is probably better on the consoles. But the PC version of BC2 has 32 players, server browsers, less lag, better graphics/controls, etc. It really is a lot more chaotic and crazy on the PC version.

Oh, I bet it is. But as I didn't have a PC capable of playing it (though I will once my new parts get here!), I wouldn't know. BF3, though? PC all the way.
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#226 DragonfireXZ95
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[QUOTE="DarkLink77"]

[QUOTE="gaming25"] The shooting mechanics became known as the ideal shooting mechanics for a 3rd person shooter, and manage to polish the Gears/RE formula for shooting to a science. And the game world was extemely immersive. How can you say that it wasnt a masterpiece?gaming25

Vanquish has much, much better gameplay, so that statement is false. And oh, I don't know, because the game isn't a masterpiece? There's nothing special about it. Masterpeices have to be able to stand the test of time. UC2 isn't going to, because all it has is presentation, and once another game does it better, no one will care.

Does Chrono Trigger, or Final Fantasy 1 stand the test of time? What about Fallout 1, would you play that game again?

I've played through Fallout 1 a few times, and I would much rather play through Fallout 1 than play through UC2 again.
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#227 DarkLink77
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[QUOTE="DarkLink77"][QUOTE="gaming25"]

Why would they give a game RPG of the year that got a 7.5? Also, KOTOR says hi.

gaming25

KOTOR II stomps the original into the ground in terms of plot, story, and combat system.

You are definitely in the minority who thinks that.

I don't care. KoTOR II is better written, and that part is pretty much not debatable.

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[QUOTE="DragonfireXZ95"][QUOTE="DarkLink77"] No comment as I haven't played BC2 on PC, but Reach does have the core game beat in a lot of ways (feature-wise). Personally, I think either game deserved the nod as both were excellent, so it doesn't bug me. ME2 better than NV, though? Hell no. BioWare wishes they were half the RPG dev. Obsidian is.

DarkLink77

I would agree with you that Reach is probably better on the consoles. But the PC version of BC2 has 32 players, server browsers, less lag, better graphics/controls, etc. It really is a lot more chaotic and crazy on the PC version.

Oh, I bet it is. But as I didn't have a PC capable of playing it (though I will once my new parts get here!), I wouldn't know. BF3, though? PC all the way.

Hell yeah, BF3 is going to be insane.

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[QUOTE="gaming25"]

[QUOTE="DarkLink77"] No comment as I haven't played BC2 on PC, but Reach does have the core game beat in a lot of ways (feature-wise). Personally, I think either game deserved the nod as both were excellent, so it doesn't bug me. ME2 better than NV, though? Hell no. BioWare wishes they were half the RPG devs Obsidian is.DragonfireXZ95

Why would they give a game RPG of the year that got a 7.5? Also, KOTOR says hi.

Nice job of ignoring my post. New Vegas got an 8.5 on PC. Maybe you should research before making such misinformed statements.

Is ME2 even an RPG. I love the game and all, but the only RPG elements I remember from it are Character customization and abilities.

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#230 gaming25
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[QUOTE="gaming25"][QUOTE="DarkLink77"] I meant presentation. DarkLink77

The shooting mechanics became known as the ideal shooting mechanics for a 3rd person shooter, and manage to polish the Gears/RE formula for shooting to a science. And the game world was extemely immersive. How can you say that it wasnt a masterpiece?

Vanquish has much, much better gameplay

Whether or not that is true, Vanquish came out over a year after UC2. And the reason why it isnt as critically acclaimed as UC2 is because Vanquish very 1 dimensional.
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[QUOTE="DarkLink77"]

[QUOTE="gaming25"] The shooting mechanics became known as the ideal shooting mechanics for a 3rd person shooter, and manage to polish the Gears/RE formula for shooting to a science. And the game world was extemely immersive. How can you say that it wasnt a masterpiece?gaming25

Vanquish has much, much better gameplay, so that statement is false. And oh, I don't know, because the game isn't a masterpiece? There's nothing special about it. Masterpeices have to be able to stand the test of time. UC2 isn't going to, because all it has is presentation, and once another game does it better, no one will care.

Does Chrono Trigger, or Final Fantasy 1 stand the test of time? What about Fallout 1, would you play that game again?

Chrono Trigger and Fallout do. The original FF, not so much, but FFIV and FFVI? Yeah.

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#232 gaming25
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[QUOTE="UC3Drake"]

[QUOTE="DragonfireXZ95"][QUOTE="gaming25"]

Why would they give a game RPG of the year that got a 7.5? Also, KOTOR says hi.

Nice job of ignoring my post. New Vegas got an 8.5 on PC. Maybe you should research before making such misinformed statements.

Is ME2 even an RPG. I love the game and all, but the only RPG elements I remember from it are Character customization and abilities.

I am pretty sure those are the 2 most important things for an RPG. In that case, then FF13 isnt an RPG.
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#233 DragonfireXZ95
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[QUOTE="DragonfireXZ95"][QUOTE="gaming25"]

Why would they give a game RPG of the year that got a 7.5? Also, KOTOR says hi.

UC3Drake

Nice job of ignoring my post. New Vegas got an 8.5 on PC. Maybe you should research before making such misinformed statements.

Is ME2 even an RPG. I love the game and all, but the only RPG elements I remember from it are Character customization and abilities.

It's mostly just a TPS. They got rid of a lot of the features from Mass Effect that made it an actual RPG.
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Nah, the series deserves the praise it gets. It does what it sets out to do exceptionally well.

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#235 DarkLink77
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[QUOTE="DarkLink77"]

[QUOTE="gaming25"] The shooting mechanics became known as the ideal shooting mechanics for a 3rd person shooter, and manage to polish the Gears/RE formula for shooting to a science. And the game world was extemely immersive. How can you say that it wasnt a masterpiece?gaming25

Vanquish has much, much better gameplay

Whether or not that is true, Vanquish came out over a year after UC2. And the reason why it isnt as critically acclaimed as UC2 is because Vanquish very 1 dimensional.

You said UC2 has "the ideal shooting mechanics in a 3rd person shooter." Vanquish does it better. And who cares if it came out a year later? F.E.A.R. has better gunplay than so many FPS games it isn't even funny, and that's a last gen game.
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#236 gaming25
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[QUOTE="DarkLink77"]

[QUOTE="gaming25"][QUOTE="DarkLink77"] Vanquish has much, much better gameplay, so that statement is false. And oh, I don't know, because the game isn't a masterpiece? There's nothing special about it. Masterpeices have to be able to stand the test of time. UC2 isn't going to, because all it has is presentation, and once another game does it better, no one will care.

Does Chrono Trigger, or Final Fantasy 1 stand the test of time? What about Fallout 1, would you play that game again?

Chrono Trigger and Fallout do. The original FF, not so much, but FFIV and FFVI? Yeah.

Who cares what stands the test of time. The fact is that they really dont. No one is extremely eager to play those games anymore. All of them are outdated and are drastically less fun than they were before.
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#237 UnrealLegend
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[QUOTE="UnrealLegend"]

Uncharted is Overrated

Killzoneis Overrated

MGS4is Overrated

Halois Overrated

Gears of Waris Overrated

CoDis Overrated

Elder Scrolls is Overrrated

Vanquishis Overrated

Resistanceis Overrated

See how easy it is to use the word "overrated"?

Medicore story? Perhaps, but the dialogue and characters more than make up for that.

Way too linear? You must be kidding. Uncharted is not Just Cause 2. All shooters are linear.

Boring combat? I disagree, but I guess this is a matter of opinion.

I do think Uncharted 2 is a bit overrated, but those were some pretty weak points.

DragonfireXZ95

Actually, your whole list is correct except for Vanquish, which is kind of ironic.

Did you really just say all shooters are linear? /facepalm

I thought Vanquish was a little overrated :)

Okay, I guess it is silly to say that all shooters are linear, but I can't actually think of any that aren't. And no-one say Crysis, because at times it can be very linear. Not like that is a bad thing though.

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#238 UC3Drake
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[QUOTE="DarkLink77"]

[QUOTE="gaming25"] Does Chrono Trigger, or Final Fantasy 1 stand the test of time? What about Fallout 1, would you play that game again?gaming25

Chrono Trigger and Fallout do. The original FF, not so much, but FFIV and FFVI? Yeah.

Who cares what stands the test of time. The fact is that they really dont. No one is extremely eager to play those games anymore. All of them are outdated and are drastically less fun than they were before.

Thats not ALWAYS true. Sure we arent eager(since they are out already), but the fun can still be there till this day. Nothing changes except the experience.

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#239 gaming25
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[QUOTE="gaming25"][QUOTE="DarkLink77"] Vanquish has much, much better gameplay

DarkLink77

Whether or not that is true, Vanquish came out over a year after UC2. And the reason why it isnt as critically acclaimed as UC2 is because Vanquish very 1 dimensional.

You said UC2 has "the ideal shooting mechanics in a 3rd person shooter." Vanquish does it better. And who cares if it came out a year later? F.E.A.R. has better gunplay than so many FPS games it isn't even funny, and that's a last gen game.

The reason why I bought up that it came out a year later is because I said that UC2 was known for it, before Vanquish came out.

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#240 DragonfireXZ95
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[QUOTE="DarkLink77"]

[QUOTE="gaming25"] Does Chrono Trigger, or Final Fantasy 1 stand the test of time? What about Fallout 1, would you play that game again?gaming25

Chrono Trigger and Fallout do. The original FF, not so much, but FFIV and FFVI? Yeah.

Who cares what stands the test of time. The fact is that they really dont. No one is extremely eager to play those games anymore. All of them are outdated and are drastically less fun than they were before.

Again, nice job of ignoring my New Vegas 8.5 PC post. Your selective reading skills are astounding, you just leveled up! And you probably just started gaming this generation if you think those games have less replay value than Uncharted 2.
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#241 DarkLink77
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[QUOTE="DarkLink77"]

[QUOTE="gaming25"] Does Chrono Trigger, or Final Fantasy 1 stand the test of time? What about Fallout 1, would you play that game again?gaming25

Chrono Trigger and Fallout do. The original FF, not so much, but FFIV and FFVI? Yeah.

Who cares what stands the test of time. The fact is that they really dont. No one is extremely eager to play those games anymore. All of them are outdated and are drastically less fun than they were before.

That's a nice opinion. A lot of people disagree with you, and they are still widely played games. See all the remakes that change very little but are still intensely critically acclaimed. Those games have staying power.

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#242 DragonfireXZ95
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[QUOTE="DragonfireXZ95"]

[QUOTE="UnrealLegend"]

Uncharted is Overrated

Killzoneis Overrated

MGS4is Overrated

Halois Overrated

Gears of Waris Overrated

CoDis Overrated

Elder Scrolls is Overrrated

Vanquishis Overrated

Resistanceis Overrated

See how easy it is to use the word "overrated"?

Medicore story? Perhaps, but the dialogue and characters more than make up for that.

Way too linear? You must be kidding. Uncharted is not Just Cause 2. All shooters are linear.

Boring combat? I disagree, but I guess this is a matter of opinion.

I do think Uncharted 2 is a bit overrated, but those were some pretty weak points.

UnrealLegend

Actually, your whole list is correct except for Vanquish, which is kind of ironic.

Did you really just say all shooters are linear? /facepalm

I thought Vanquish was a little overrated :)

Okay, I guess it is silly to say that all shooters are linear, but I can't actually think of any that aren't. And no-one say Crysis, because at times it can be very linear. Not like that is a bad thing though.

I haven't played Vanquish(only the demo) so I don't know, but I rarely ever see praise for it except by a certain couple of people on this forum, so I don't see a need to call it overrated.

However I do see more praise than any of those other games deserve on these forums simply because they are the most commercially hyped and the most popular.

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#243 UnrealLegend
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[QUOTE="Drakan11"]The story was cheesy science fiction, just like the first and I didn't like it. It is just the presentation that is amazing. The graphics are amazing. The single player action sequences are hectic and right out of a hollywood blockbuster. If it had a more intriguing storylines like say Assassins Creed or Prince of Perisa (SoT trilogy), then the game would be pretty perfect. charlesdarwin55

This is NOT OK dude. Ok you can say Uncharted 2 is crap and all that but DON'T EVER SAY THIS. Assassins Creed (2 & brotherhood) has the worst "story" anyone has ever concieved including any thought coming from any brain of any living creauture during the history of existence. It's 10x worse than The Tale of Scrotie McBoogerballs.

I think he meant the story as a series, which is very intruiging. And while Brotherhood's story was a little disappointing, it is far from the worst story ever created. And AC2? Come on... how does that have a bad story? If you want a bad story then go play CoD or Just Cause 2.

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#244 charlesdarwin55
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[QUOTE="charlesdarwin55"]

[QUOTE="Drakan11"]The story was cheesy science fiction, just like the first and I didn't like it. It is just the presentation that is amazing. The graphics are amazing. The single player action sequences are hectic and right out of a hollywood blockbuster. If it had a more intriguing storylines like say Assassins Creed or Prince of Perisa (SoT trilogy), then the game would be pretty perfect. UnrealLegend

This is NOT OK dude. Ok you can say Uncharted 2 is crap and all that but DON'T EVER SAY THIS. Assassins Creed (2 & brotherhood) has the worst "story" anyone has ever concieved including any thought coming from any brain of any living creauture during the history of existence. It's 10x worse than The Tale of Scrotie McBoogerballs.

I think he meant the story as a series, which is very intruiging. And while Brotherhood's story was a little disappointing, it is far from the worst story ever created. And AC2? Come on... how does that have a bad story? If you want a bad story then go play CoD or Just Cause 2.

Nah the series is just some sci-fi bullcrap. The first assassins creed had a great story, I don't remember so much from AC2 since it wasn't very memorable but it was pretty avarage at best. AC:B just a little dissapointing? it was crap pure crap, Uncharted 2 WAY better & my major concern with U2 was the story and it was WAY better & yet very few people say AC:B was overrated which also had really boring gameplay. Don't have JC2 but I have COD:BO and the story is pretty good & in any case WAY WAY better than "Assassins" Creed Brotherhood.

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#245 UnrealLegend
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[QUOTE="UnrealLegend"]

[QUOTE="charlesdarwin55"]

This is NOT OK dude. Ok you can say Uncharted 2 is crap and all that but DON'T EVER SAY THIS. Assassins Creed (2 & brotherhood) has the worst "story" anyone has ever concieved including any thought coming from any brain of any living creauture during the history of existence. It's 10x worse than The Tale of Scrotie McBoogerballs.

charlesdarwin55

I think he meant the story as a series, which is very intruiging. And while Brotherhood's story was a little disappointing, it is far from the worst story ever created. And AC2? Come on... how does that have a bad story? If you want a bad story then go play CoD or Just Cause 2.

Nah the series is just some sci-fi bullcrap. The first assassins creed had a great story, I don't remember so much from AC2 since it wasn't very memorable but it was pretty avarage at best. AC:B just a little dissapointing? it was crap pure crap, Uncharted 2 WAY better & my major concern with U2 was the story and it was WAY better & yet very few people say AC:B was overrated which also had really boring gameplay. Don't have JC2 but I have COD:BO and the story is pretty good & in any case WAY WAY better than "Assassins" Creed Brotherhood.

Eh, I disagree, especially about BO having a better story than Brotherhood. What I liked about Brotherhood's story was the advancment of the main story (as well as the awesome improvements to the gameplay) and the development of Ezio's character was great in AC2. And the reason no-one says ACB is overrated is that it scored an 8.5, while the average user score is 9.1 (so most people think it's underrated). Anyway, let's not turn this thread into a debate over Assassin's Creed. (As a side note, I swear I've had this discussion with you multiple times before) :P

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#246 charlesdarwin55
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@ UnrealLegend

Yeah that's me allright! I recognize your avatar now!
Anyway I was thinking about the 91 score on metascore which is crazy 8,5 is also way too much. But you're right let's not make it about AC.
One thing though, yeah Uncharted is cliche, mostly lazaraveich, but it isn't a game which is suppose to be deep and all. It's suppose to have a shallow Indiana Jones story and it does that great (exept the endings IMO). I don't think that's bad they just chose a different path than AC. But AC chose the deep path the path full of historical intrigues etc. but it fails badly. It's real pretentious.

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Easily the best part of the campaign.

Lionheart08

Jumping from a car to another car was the best part of the campaign?

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#248 gaming25
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[QUOTE="Lionheart08"]

Easily the best part of the campaign.

Stevo_the_gamer

Jumping from a car to another car was the best part of the campaign?

In the way it occured it was one of the best. You were holding fighting sequences while clinging on and up to a car, and then jump before it blows up.

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#249 Stevo_the_gamer  Moderator
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In the way it occured it was one of the best. You were holding fighting sequences while clinging on and up to a car, and then jump before it blows up.

gaming25

The fact that I barely even remember that part in the game just tells me clearly that I thought it was incredibly insignificant.

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#250 gaming25
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[QUOTE="gaming25"][QUOTE="DarkLink77"]

Chrono Trigger and Fallout do. The original FF, not so much, but FFIV and FFVI? Yeah.

DragonfireXZ95

Who cares what stands the test of time. The fact is that they really dont. No one is extremely eager to play those games anymore. All of them are outdated and are drastically less fun than they were before.

Again, nice job of ignoring my New Vegas 8.5 PC post. Your selective reading skills are astounding, you just leveled up! And you probably just started gaming this generation if you think those games have less replay value than Uncharted 2.

Uncharted 2 just came out a year and a half ago. We have no clue how it will be 10 years from now. It seems like you are trying to grasp at straws by making your main case against UC2 being something that we cant even prove. And Mass Effect 2 scored higher than NV so I dont know why you were surprised.