Valve Shuts out Ps3 too complicated

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Another lazy Devs just admit it Fanboys Kojima didnt say its complicated, none of Capcom devs said its complicated , Sony 1st party are making the best games on PS3 this generation without saying its complicated , Sega didnt say its complicated and the list is very long so its obvious they are just too lazy.

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[QUOTE="MJPK"]

Valve are MS fanboys.They make some good games but other than that they are *******s

Edit: I used to like them but the hole €1=$1 problem on steam is just stupid.

MJPK

They are the best developers in the world imo.

As I said them make good games but thats no excuse to rip off europeans

Unfortunatelly is not only valve that rip us europeans but all companies including EA, activision, ubisoft etc etc since they all seem to think 1euro=$1 but microsoft and sony took it a step further ( at least in smaller countries like the one i live) by releasing their games at 70euros

[QUOTE="Jared2720"] If money is so important, and Valve has such, as you claim, limited resources, why are they consistently one of the most acclaimed game development companies in the world? Is it magic? Rhetorical. Don't bother. I wouldn't want to leave you in awe again.Verge_6

exactly. it's a well known fact they're where they are today because they hire smart, don't over hire, and often focus on recruiting talented mod creators for their previous projects. it's an excellent business model. far better than hiring 500 staff for a project with a hollywood budget that barely breaks even (looking at your KZ2).

why have your extremely talented staff shift off a project to work on learning the Cell which might not make an appearance in another console ever? why? to make some Sony fans happy? to appease Sony? it's nonsense.

[QUOTE="Dead-Memories"][QUOTE="Kashiwaba"]

Another lazy Devs just admit it Fanboys Kojima didnt say its complicated, none of Capcom devs said its complicated , Sony 1st party are making the best games on PS3 this generation without saying its complicated , Sega didnt say its complicated and the list is very long so its obvious they are just too lazy.

Capcom , Konami , Sega, Namco , EA games and rockstat do they spend 4+ years with internal funding too admit it lazy ass devs.

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[QUOTE="kozzy1234"]

They are the best developers in the world imo.

adamosmaki

As I said them make good games but thats no excuse to rip off europeans

Unfortunatelly is not only valve that rip us europeans but all companies including EA, activision, ubisoft etc etc since they all seem to think 1euro=$1 but microsoft and sony took it a step further ( at least in smaller countries like the one i live) by releasing their games at 70euros

I live in Ireland and I get Xbox360/PS3 games for €60 and PC games for €40.There cheaper online though.

[QUOTE="Verge_6"][QUOTE="Jared2720"]Sounds like some of the employees at Valve need to start taking some classes at Naughty Dog University.Jared2720

Surfice to say uncharted and uncharted 2 are no where near as fun as any thing out of valve, and money means every thing money means you can hire people to do your coding and likely when your a 1st party your parent company just goes ahead and gives you coders to begin with. Naughty dog being a 1st party makes ALL the differences if they weren't then they'd not make nearly the games they have on ps3.

http://loot-ninja.com/2009/06/09/valve-shuts-out-too-complicated-ps3/

Tssk Tssk.. lazy devs confirmed :evil:

AdoringFan_

[QUOTE="Dante2710"]*looks at replies* :lol: im speechless honestly and a bit sad......people are actually comparing sony`s developers to valve`s caliber? only in SW BoloTheGreat

Valve really is a crappy developer who get's too much praise. They are using a damn quake 3 quality engine basically and havent done crap to update it's lightmaps to dynamic lighting. lazy ass developers, left 4 dead sucks and left 4 dead 2 looks like left 4 dead 1 except diff map lolgoddamndude

hehehe, new account for this. for shame my friend, for shame.

if you believed what you were saying you'd obviously stand behind it by not posting anon :)

Valve really is a crappy developer who get's too much praise. They are using a damn quake 3 quality engine basically and havent done crap to update it's lightmaps to dynamic lighting. lazy ass developers, left 4 dead sucks and left 4 dead 2 looks like left 4 dead 1 except diff map lolgoddamndude

Valve games are meant to played on PC anyways.

The 360 versions of their games are usually gimped and get no support like TF2.

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[QUOTE="MJPK"]

As I said them make good games but thats no excuse to rip off europeans

MJPK

Unfortunatelly is not only valve that rip us europeans but all companies including EA, activision, ubisoft etc etc since they all seem to think 1euro=$1 but microsoft and sony took it a step further ( at least in smaller countries like the one i live) by releasing their games at 70euros

I live in Ireland and I get Xbox360/PS3 games for €60 and PC games for €40.There cheaper online though.

developing on another console requires a lot set up costs. new equipent, new staff, training- the whole 9 yards..

Capcom , Konami , Sega, Namco , EA games and rockstat do they spend 4+ years with internal funding too admit it lazy ass devs.

Dead-Memories

Not really true. Especially in the case of EA, Namco, and Capcom.

Valve games are meant to played on PC anyways.

The 360 versions of their games are usually gimped and get no support like TF2.

STRETCH-E

if you believed what you were saying you'd obviously stand behind it by not posting anon :)3picuri3

Valve games are meant to played on PC anyways.

The 360 versions of their games are usually gimped and get no support like TF2.

STRETCH-E

Valve games are meant to played on PC anyways.

The 360 versions of their games are usually gimped and get no support like TF2.

STRETCH-E

Valve games are meant to played on PC anyways.

The 360 versions of their games are usually gimped and get no support like TF2.

STRETCH-E

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http://loot-ninja.com/2009/06/09/valve-shuts-out-too-complicated-ps3/

Tssk Tssk.. lazy devs confirmed :evil:

TREAL_Since

Valve games are meant to played on PC anyways.

The 360 versions of their games are usually gimped and get no support like TF2.STRETCH-E

oh yes because the orange box on the ps3 was so amazing...

left 4 dead's lighting ***** *** stupid lightmaps static lighting goddamndude

[QUOTE="TREAL_Since"][QUOTE="AdoringFan_"]

http://loot-ninja.com/2009/06/09/valve-shuts-out-too-complicated-ps3/

Tssk Tssk.. lazy devs confirmed :evil:

Episode_Eve

Not really true. Especially in the case of EA, Namco, and Capcomstandarddamage

even the chronicles of ridddick on xbox had better lighting than left 4 dead. valve really is a lazy dev if their engine still doesnt even support dynamic lighting.goddamndude

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Source_Engine

[QUOTE="goddamndude"]even the chronicles of ridddick on xbox had better lighting than left 4 dead. valve really is a lazy dev if their engine still doesnt even support dynamic lighting.darkmagician06

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Unfortunatelly is not only valve that rip us europeans but all companies including EA, activision, ubisoft etc etc since they all seem to think 1euro=$1 but microsoft and sony took it a step further ( at least in smaller countries like the one i live) by releasing their games at 70euros

adamosmaki

I live in Ireland and I get Xbox360/PS3 games for €60 and PC games for €40.There cheaper online though.

Unlucky :(.Companys like to rip off the EU for some reason.

[QUOTE="darkmagician06"][QUOTE="goddamndude"]even the chronicles of ridddick on xbox had better lighting than left 4 dead. valve really is a lazy dev if their engine still doesnt even support dynamic lighting.Generalmojo

I own both systems so I just don't really care. As long as I get my XBox games from Valve, and my good PS3 exclusives from other producers, then those who only have a PS3 can suck it.

Well; I'm glad I have a PC and 360 to play their games on then.

It's a shame though, everyone should play the awesomeness that is Half Life and it's sequels.

[QUOTE="adamosmaki"][QUOTE="MJPK"]

I live in Ireland and I get Xbox360/PS3 games for €60 and PC games for €40.There cheaper online though.

MJPK

Unlucky :(.Companys like to rip off the EU for some reason.

for our new friend:

The third method, shown at the E3 convention in 2005, used floating point data to define the RGB color space, allowing for reasonably efficient storage of the HDR data. However, this method also did not allow for multisample anti-aliasing, and was only compatible with Nvidia video cards, leaving ATI cards unable to run HDR.[5] The fourth and final method compromised between the second and third methods, using overbrightening textures sparingly and allowing ATI cards to render HDR in a different way to the Nvidia ones while nearly producing the same end result.[5]

from the Wiki on Lost Coast. so you know Valve is fully capable of doing it - they just didn't want a non multisampled world with jaggies where not ATI users could benefit from the effect. so it appears they cater to gamers, not lighting lovers - like yourself. and for that, i am happy.

Sounds like some of the employees at Valve need to start taking some classes at Naughty Dog University.Jared2720

[QUOTE="standarddamage"]Not really true. Especially in the case of EA, Namco, and Capcombingbaocao

I wasn't referring to installs, I'm referring to how the game looks, feels, and plays. If the games are on par with each other, we can hardly call them "inferior."

And even 360 games play better when they're installed to the Hard Drive. I was really happy when they included that feature with the "New Xbox Live Ewxperience."

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[QUOTE="Jared2720"]Sounds like some of the employees at Valve need to start taking some classes at Naughty Dog University.Generalmojo

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[QUOTE="adamosmaki"] unfortunately here in cyprus console games are 65-70euros ( but atleast they come down to the 60 price point a month or 2 after release) but fortunately pc games cost the same as other countries (usually 40-45euros) and there stores that have them even at lower prices BoloTheGreat

Unlucky :(.Companys like to rip off the EU for some reason.

The UK isn't bad but I live in the Republic of Ireland.Games were €70-€75 a few years ago but they have went down in price.I get alot of my games sent out from England(play.com,amazon etc) as it works out cheaper.