Wa- Wait a minute.What advantage do consoles get over PC except exclusives? Any?

I mean yes, we can argue about stuff about graphics, or brands loyalty, nostalgia, upsaling, Onlive, and etc. etc etc.

But there is one real question to be asked. other than exclusive what advantage does a console have over a PC? Is that it? Because with games going more multiplat (which is bad for the industry, but that's another issue) soon consoles will have less and less exclusives.

You can't say controller when a 3rd or FP company can just make one for Ps3 as we all already know or/and have used.

You can't say lower quality graphics because Pcgames released this gen showed it could do both.

You can't say simplicity because Laptops and Onlive can do it.

You can't say compatability, especially for this gen with glitches, texture problems, Dlc having to not be on the disc, etc.

You can't say only controller support because consoles have M/K controls as well as the Wii controller which is a sensor stick with buttons. Not the first.

You can't say online network because, well drugs are bad for you.

You can't say you can;t play on your TV or sit on your couch.

You can't say easier to carry. Laptops and Onlive are easy to carry.

You can't say it has less genere variety.

You cant say consoles have more genres.

You can't say punch a turtle.

You can rub the turtle. But does the turtle want you to?

You probably can say lack of japanese support but that's not exactly a very large impact on buying. But it's the only of 2 real advantages.

The only things you could say is that Consoles (except the upcoming gen from specs) Usually have a temp, advantage in games over Pc at the start of each gen because they are build for games, but this is temp and, very fast might I add, Pc widens that gap at a point.

So really, unless I am missing something, am I only seeing one advantage?

(I am not primarily a PC gamer so don't think I am one of those SW elitists.)

Well... it's convenient as well. I like consoles better.

Well... it's convenient as well. I like consoles better.

turtlethetaffer

1. Simplicity
2. Compatability
3. 100% controller support (it seems to be an important issue in SW)
4. Exclusive games

These are the ones I could come up with off the top of my head.

Convenience and simplicity, there is no thought involved when setting up a console. You plug it into the outlet/tv, pop in the disc, and you're done.meetroid8

1. Simplicity
2. Compatability
3. 100% controller support (it seems to be an important issue in SW)
4. Exclusive games

These are the ones I could come up with off the top of my head.

lundy86_4

[QUOTE="turtlethetaffer"]

Well... it's convenient as well. I like consoles better.

Another48hours

How did you know that? Oh well I'm bored right now. :P

Anyways yeah I jsut think it's more convenient, since you won't have to worry about whether or not your system can run a game or not. Everything on consoles are optomized.

Most people have more friends that play on consoles so buying a PC and playing multiplayer / co-op wouldn't be as fun.

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

1. Simplicity
2. Compatability
3. 100% controller support (it seems to be an important issue in SW)
4. Exclusive games

These are the ones I could come up with off the top of my head.

Another48hours

1. Simplicity - GUI is far simpler, plug and play is far better (PC's are still behind, but getting better), as a machine, it is far simpler to use.
2. Compatability - Games for the system are 100% compatable. PC games can occasionally have issues. I am not saying console games are without major issues, however they are far less common.
3. 100% controller support - Duh. Games have 100% gamepad support. I'm surprised this was difficult to understand.
4. Exclusive games - I'm aware. I felt reiteration was necessary.

[QUOTE="meetroid8"]Convenience and simplicity, there is no thought involved when setting up a console. You plug it into the outlet/tv, pop in the disc, and you're done.Another48hours

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

1. Simplicity
2. Compatability
3. 100% controller support (it seems to be an important issue in SW)
4. Exclusive games

These are the ones I could come up with off the top of my head.

Another48hours

Well if you are going to pull the denial and argument card in the face of reasons and logic, then this thread already seems like a giant waste of time.

Most people have more friends that play on consoles so buying a PC and playing multiplayer / co-op wouldn't be as fun.

Darkslayer16

the console peasant argument of "convenience and simplicity" boils down to "i am a lazy bastard that doesn't mind paying money for the worst experience so long as it's handed to me pre-assembled" lolprinceofshapeir

No.

It boils down to "this is what I am happy with. F*ck off!"

I'm not even a "console peasant" and I find it easy enough to understand.

[QUOTE="Another48hours"][QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

1. Simplicity
2. Compatability
3. 100% controller support (it seems to be an important issue in SW)
4. Exclusive games

These are the ones I could come up with off the top of my head.

lundy86_4

1. Simplicity - GUI is far simpler, plug and play is far better (PC's are still behind, but getting better), as a machine, it is far simpler to use.
2. Compatability - Games for the system are 100% compatable. PC games can occasionally have issues.
3. 100% controller support - Duh. Games have 100% gamepad support. I'm surprised this was difficult to understand.
4. Exclusive games - I'm aware. I felt reiteration was necessary.

[QUOTE="Another48hours"][QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

1. Simplicity
2. Compatability
3. 100% controller support (it seems to be an important issue in SW)
4. Exclusive games

These are the ones I could come up with off the top of my head.

lundy86_4

1. Simplicity - GUI is far simpler, plug and play is far better (PC's are still behind, but getting better), as a machine, it is far simpler to use.
2. Compatability - Games for the system are 100% compatable. PC games can occasionally have issues.
3. 100% controller support - Duh. Games have 100% gamepad support. I'm surprised this was difficult to understand.
4. Exclusive games - I'm aware. I felt reiteration was necessary.

1. see above post

2. we are witnessing consoles abandon backwards compatibility and with next-gen it's doubtful it will even be a feature for the PS4 or xbox 720. the PC is the only platform with true universal backwards compatibility.

3. a wired 360 controller works with 99% of games today and is plug-and-play, and anyway KB/M is superior for FPS, RTS, MMO, or really any shooter based on aiming a reticule

4. there are more exclusive games on PC and a greater variety of exclusive games on PC

• Easier to carry from one room to the living room (good for my puny kiddie console body)
• Easier to set up and free from drivers etc (good for my puny kiddie console brain)

• Easier to carry from one room to the living room (good for my puny kiddie console body)
• Easier to set up and free from drivers etc (good for my puny kiddie console brain)

-Unreal-

I dont need a nuclear engine to play games, you want one? Awesome, more power to you.

[QUOTE="princeofshapeir"]the console peasant argument of "convenience and simplicity" boils down to "i am a lazy bastard that doesn't mind paying money for the worst experience so long as it's handed to me pre-assembled" lollundy86_4

No.

It boils down to "this is what I am happy with. F*ck off!"

I'm not even a "console peasant" and I find it easy enough to understand.

None. Nothing at all. PC can do everything consoles can do and sooooo much more.

That said, I do prefer console gaming because that is were most of my favorite franchises happen to be. All about preference, but objectively the PC destroys all consoles combined.

I like consoles the most, trust me, that's the biggest advantage consoles get.

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

[QUOTE="princeofshapeir"]the console peasant argument of "convenience and simplicity" boils down to "i am a lazy bastard that doesn't mind paying money for the worst experience so long as it's handed to me pre-assembled" lolprinceofshapeir

No.

It boils down to "this is what I am happy with. F*ck off!"

I'm not even a "console peasant" and I find it easy enough to understand.

The only undisputable advanage that consoles have over PCs for average gamers is the simplicity and convinience,you just plug in and play,completely "foolproof"...

Another possible advantage could be their smaller size,however Mini-ITX PC cases and gaming laptops make that a moot point to discuss...

[QUOTE="-Unreal-"]

• Easier to carry from one room to the living room (good for my puny kiddie console body)
• Easier to set up and free from drivers etc (good for my puny kiddie console brain)

Another48hours

[QUOTE="princeofshapeir"][QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

No.

It boils down to "this is what I am happy with. F*ck off!"

I'm not even a "console peasant" and I find it easy enough to understand.

freedomfreak

silly pleb

I think the only advantage is popularity. I know that PC is the highest grossing market and everything but consoles just seem to be more popular. If your friends have a 360 and you don't have anything, then you might buy a 360.

[QUOTE="freedomfreak"][QUOTE="princeofshapeir"] no, it boils down to "i don't like to put in the work to have a superior entertainment system. i want things pre-assembled for my puny little babby brain." such is the console pleb logic.princeofshapeir

silly pleb

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

[QUOTE="Another48hours"] 1.Elaborate 2.Elaborate 3.what? 4.Already covered.Another48hours

1. Simplicity - GUI is far simpler, plug and play is far better (PC's are still behind, but getting better), as a machine, it is far simpler to use.
2. Compatability - Games for the system are 100% compatable. PC games can occasionally have issues.
3. 100% controller support - Duh. Games have 100% gamepad support. I'm surprised this was difficult to understand.
4. Exclusive games - I'm aware. I felt reiteration was necessary.

1. Laptops don't address any of the reasons stated under simplicity. They operate using the same OS as a fully-fledged desktop. OnLive has a whole other slew of issues, but they lack games one can find, even on the PC.
2. See above. Compatability is there, yes. We were talking specifically PC though, and although OnLive falls under that umbrella it's lacks many of the advantages. Many which you will no doubt show as absolutely mandatory for any gamer.
3. So? They still have 100% controller support. F*cking stupid argument is stupid. BTW, when we specifically talk controller support, we talk about the native controller support, so the WiiMote is included. Duh.

The only undisputable advanage that consoles have over PCs for average gamers is the simplicity and convinience,you just plug in and play,completely "foolproof"...

Another possible advantage could be their smaller size,however Mini-ITX PC cases make that a moot point to discuss...

Rocker6

Uhm I think exclusives are a good enough reason but maybe that's just me.

no, it boils down to "i don't like to put in the work to have a superior entertainment system. i want things pre-assembled for my puny little babby brain." such is the console pleb logic.princeofshapeir

It's clear that this will continue to go around in circles. Stop inserting ridiculous insults in your posts. Choice of machine is not based on the intellectual. Unless you can prove it.

Uhm I think exclusives are a good enough reason but maybe that's just me.

Eponique

Well.........

[QUOTE="princeofshapeir"]no, it boils down to "i don't like to put in the work to have a superior entertainment system. i want things pre-assembled for my puny little babby brain." such is the console pleb logic.lundy86_4

It's clear that this will continue to go around in circles. Stop inserting ridiculous insults in your posts. Choice of machine is not based on the intellectual. Unless you can prove it.

[QUOTE="Another48hours"][QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

1. Simplicity - GUI is far simpler, plug and play is far better (PC's are still behind, but getting better), as a machine, it is far simpler to use.
2. Compatability - Games for the system are 100% compatable. PC games can occasionally have issues.
3. 100% controller support - Duh. Games have 100% gamepad support. I'm surprised this was difficult to understand.
4. Exclusive games - I'm aware. I felt reiteration was necessary.

lundy86_4

1. Laptops don't address any of the reasons stated under simplicity. They operate using the same OS as a fully-fledged desktop. OnLive has a whole other slew of issues, but they lack games one can find, even on the PC.
2. See above. Compatability is there, yes. We were talking specifically PC though, and although OnLive falls under that umbrella it's lacks many of the advantages. Many which you will no doubt show as absolutely mandatory for any gamer.
3. So? They still have 100% controller support. F*cking stupid argument is stupid. BTW, when we specifically talk controller support, we talk about the native controller support, so the WiiMote is included. Duh.

Uhm I think exclusives are a good enough reason but maybe that's just me.

Eponique

the convenience argument holds zero water if you're someone who has any interest in creating a superior entertainment system it doesn't make any sense as to why you'd be fine paying money for an inferior experience when you could do some research online and build a better experience on your own if you legitimately cannot do that, then yes, you are a technophobe or lazyprinceofshapeir

Well, obviously. People do not look for the same factors in everything.

I said it wasn't an indication of the level of intelligence, not whether you are a technophobe or lazy. Technophobia is the fear of technological devices, which makes no sense if they are willing to use one technological device over the other. I don't see how it's laziness either, especially when there are so many variables in what people want from a gaming machine.

if exclusives were a sufficient reason to own a system nobody would own a 360. lolprinceofshapeir

DUDE YOU BUY SYSTEMS FOR GAMES? WTF?freedomfreak

I bought this game for the gameplay.

I'm doomed to be a console peasant for the rest of my life.

[QUOTE="freedomfreak"]DUDE YOU BUY SYSTEMS FOR GAMES? WTF?Eponique

I bought this game for the gameplay.

I'm doomed to be a console peasant for the rest of my life.

and the fact that I'm too lazy to build and maintain a gaming PC.charizard1605

1.Yet, some are simpler to use than others. Cvs type laptops and Netbooks come tomind. Plus, Onlive. Regardless of issues, it's still simpler to use. Console have issues to. 2.Laptops, Onlive, Steam. Also,it still has less Copatibility issues than Consoles regradlessif you hate on Onlive or not. Adding side things does not change the rule. 3. So? With that logic PC is 100% controller support as well. The fact is consoles are not 100% controller support. Where's that controllerfor Kinect at for example? What about the M/K add-ons? If you are talking native, why does Kinect have no Native controller support?Another48hours

1. You use netbooks as an indication of simplicity and yet we're referencing PC in terms of gaming. What? Consoles are easier to use than PCs, end of. OnLive is easier to use, and much more in line with consoles, yep. It also doesn't represent a fraction of the advantages of PC gaming. In fact, it has far more in common with console gaming.
2. PC gaming overall is has more compatability issues. You seem to want to stand in OnLive when its convenient, but use other PC services when they are convenient as well. If we look at them overall, PCs have far more software incompatability than consoles. Right or wrong?
3. All consoles games work with the gamepad for that system (apart from a few Wii games I believe). PCs have 100% M/KB support, with minimal controller support (much more popular lately, though). Consoles have nigh on 100% controller support, with minimal M/KB support.