Wa- Wait a minute.What advantage do consoles get over PC except exclusives? Any?

a PC is a computer. If we're gonna use PC as a gaming system, then we should also use Ipods and those Mcdonalds toysLastRambo341

A PC can quite easily be defined as a "system" (as it seems you are trying to differentiate them), and it plays games, thus it can be seen as a "gaming system". Done and done.

I mean yes, we can argue about stuff about graphics, or brands loyalty, nostalgia, upsaling, Onlive, and etc. etc etc.

But there is one real question to be asked. other than exclusive what advantage does a console have over a PC? Is that it? Because with games going more multiplat (which is bad for the industry, but that's another issue) soon consoles will have less and less exclusives.

You can't say controller when a 3rd or FP company can just make one for Ps3 as we all already know or/and have used.

You can't say lower quality graphics because Pcgames released this gen showed it could do both.

You can't say simplicity because Laptops and Onlive can do it.

You can't say compatability, especially for this gen with glitches, texture problems, Dlc having to not be on the disc, etc.

You can't say only controller support because consoles have M/K controls as well as the Wii controller which is a sensor stick with buttons. Not the first.

You can't say online network because, well drugs are bad for you.

You can't say you can;t play on your TV or sit on your couch.

You can't say easier to carry. Laptops and Onlive are easy to carry.

You can't say it has less genere variety.

You cant say consoles have more genres.

You can't say punch a turtle.

You can rub the turtle. But does the turtle want you to?

You probably can say lack of japanese support but that's not exactly a very large impact on buying. But it's the only of 2 real advantages.

The only things you could say is that Consoles (except the upcoming gen from specs) Usually have a temp, advantage in games over Pc at the start of each gen because they are build for games, but this is temp and, very fast might I add, Pc widens that gap at a point.

So really, unless I am missing something, am I only seeing one advantage?

(I am not primarily a PC gamer so don't think I am one of those SW elitists.)

Another48hours

Convenience and simplicity, there is no thought involved when setting up a console. You plug it into the outlet/tv, pop in the disc, and you're done.meetroid8

Consoles are easier to set up. Guaranteed that your game is going to work to its fullest capacity. More convenient for couch gaming. I prefer game pads to keyboard and mouse personally for action games. PCs are expensive to keep up to date with.

[QUOTE="nitekids2004"]

Exclusives are the only advantage you need. :)

Am_Confucius

I have been playing alot of Platformers, Fighting and JRPGs :)

Familiar with those?

Consoles provide an equal platform for everyone to compete with. If I'm playing Forza, I know that pretty much everybody else is having the same experience. The graphical quality is the same, the framerate is the same and the input options are limited to a standard controller or one of the wheels. Compare that to PC gaming where one person can be getting 120fps with much greater LOD and another person could be chugging along at 25fps. I like PC gaming more than console gaming, but this is one advantage that Consoles have.

[QUOTE="nitekids2004"]

Exclusives are the only advantage you need. :)

Am_Confucius

RTS? looool nah, been too busy with Uncharted, Forza, Halo and many, many other games that PC fanboys only wish they were also playing.

Then once I've completed them, THEN I go to my PC and play RTS's...best of everything = WINNING.

[QUOTE="LastRambo341"]a PC is a computer. If we're gonna use PC as a gaming system, then we should also use Ipods and those Mcdonalds toyslundy86_4

A PC can quite easily be defined as a "system" (as it seems you are trying to differentiate them), and it plays games, thus it can be seen as a "gaming system". Done and done.

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

[QUOTE="LastRambo341"]a PC is a computer. If we're gonna use PC as a gaming system, then we should also use Ipods and those Mcdonalds toysLastRambo341

A PC can quite easily be defined as a "system" (as it seems you are trying to differentiate them), and it plays games, thus it can be seen as a "gaming system". Done and done.

I mean yes, we can argue about stuff about graphics, or brands loyalty, nostalgia, upsaling, Onlive, and etc. etc etc.

But there is one real question to be asked. other than exclusive what advantage does a console have over a PC? Is that it? Because with games going more multiplat (which is bad for the industry, but that's another issue) soon consoles will have less and less exclusives.

You can't say controller when a 3rd or FP company can just make one for Ps3 as we all already know or/and have used.

They're typically bad.

You can't say simplicity because Laptops and Onlive can do it.

A laptop isn't a gaming PC. A laptop is an entirely different matter than what people talk about when they discuss "the PC." Pricing and capabilities are an entirely different ballgame once you bring laptops into the picture.

You can't say compatability, especially for this gen with glitches, texture problems, Dlc having to not be on the disc, etc.

Yes you can. Glitches and texture issues aren't compatability issues, they're programming issues. DLC not on the disc is a marketing scheme.

You can't say you can;t play on your TV or sit on your couch.

You can, but when kb/m comes into the picture it's highly impractical. Impractical overall, actually, unless you own more than one PC.

You can't say easier to carry. Laptops and Onlive are easy to carry.

Again, a laptop isn't a gaming PC.

Another48hours

[QUOTE="LastRambo341"][QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

A PC can quite easily be defined as a "system" (as it seems you are trying to differentiate them), and it plays games, thus it can be seen as a "gaming system". Done and done.

lowe0

There is a reason why the term "Console War" existsLastRambo341

There is a reason why the term 'complete idiot' exists.

There is a reason why the term "Console War" existslowe0

Groundless arguments don't tend to get very far.

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

[QUOTE="LastRambo341"]a PC is a computer. If we're gonna use PC as a gaming system, then we should also use Ipods and those Mcdonalds toysLastRambo341

A PC can quite easily be defined as a "system" (as it seems you are trying to differentiate them), and it plays games, thus it can be seen as a "gaming system". Done and done.

Why?

[QUOTE="LastRambo341"]

There is a reason why the term "Console War" existstenaka2

There is a reason why the term 'complete idiot' exists.

[QUOTE="lowe0"]I'm all in favor of debating console vs. console, but I lost that argument months (if not years) ago. The idea of per-thread context was rejected here. Whether I like it or not, those are the rules.tenaka2

Groundless arguments don't tend to get very far.

[QUOTE="tenaka2"]

[QUOTE="lowe0"]I'm all in favor of debating console vs. console, but I lost that argument months (if not years) ago. The idea of per-thread context was rejected here. Whether I like it or not, those are the rules.lowe0

Groundless arguments don't tend to get very far.

No need, this is system wars.

Besides if there were no PC threads you would have nothing to b**** about.

[QUOTE="lowe0"][QUOTE="tenaka2"]

Groundless arguments don't tend to get very far.

tenaka2

No need, this is system wars.

Besides if there were no PC threads you would have nothing to b**** about.

[QUOTE="LastRambo341"][QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

A PC can quite easily be defined as a "system" (as it seems you are trying to differentiate them), and it plays games, thus it can be seen as a "gaming system". Done and done.

lowe0

I would be a 100% PC gamer but the problem is none of my friends game on PC. Ive tried to get them into PC games but then you turn into their "PC fix it guy". Consoles really are just so much easier to deal with.

[QUOTE="meetroid8"]Convenience and simplicity, there is no thought involved when setting up a console. You plug it into the outlet/tv, pop in the disc, and you're done.Another48hours

Well yeah, for 1500 bucks for a laptop with an actual gaming GPU. And who even likes the existance of Onlive? I hope that thing burns and dies I WANT TO OWN MY GAMES, not have the service go out and there goes my collection of games. If my console/pc dies all I have to do is get another or repair it and I don't lose any of my games. Plus I tried on the Batman AC demo on it, it's so blurry and the graphics are worst than all Low settings for PC.

i can't wait for when this same thread is recreated next week and we here these sames responses

[QUOTE="LastRambo341"][QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

A PC can quite easily be defined as a "system" (as it seems you are trying to differentiate them), and it plays games, thus it can be seen as a "gaming system". Done and done.

lundy86_4

Why?

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E3 for PC is good times...not!!!killzowned24

[QUOTE="killzowned24"]E3 for PC is good times...not!!!Crysis3Soldier

The PC has this

The advantages I'd say that consoles have over PC are as follows:-

• More games and exclusives (your title is misleading)
• Better controls, not for RPG like Diablo 3 obviously
• Games are optimised for consoles. No hardware upgrades needed
• No drivers and nerdy stuff. Just put the disc in and play! Consoles are simpler and more convenient

[QUOTE="savagetwinkie"][QUOTE="lowe0"] Technically, what we're really arguing about is "platforms", not systems, which really means the combination of the hardware, plus a run-time environment that supports gaming. So a router wouldn't be considered a gaming platform, because it lacks the necessary software stack, even though it has a CPU and memory and runs an OS. It's stuff like DirectX or the libraries in the console SDKs that make the difference. LastRambo341

But people have been gaming on PCs longer than they've been using the internet on them

[QUOTE="LastRambo341"][QUOTE="savagetwinkie"] ps3 is a system and platform designed for gaming, PC is a platform designed for gaming and making it easier to deal with different types of systems Raymundo_Manuel

But people have been gaming on PCs longer than they've been using the internet on them

Price and effort, simple as that.

[QUOTE="savagetwinkie"][QUOTE="lowe0"] Technically, what we're really arguing about is "platforms", not systems, which really means the combination of the hardware, plus a run-time environment that supports gaming. So a router wouldn't be considered a gaming platform, because it lacks the necessary software stack, even though it has a CPU and memory and runs an OS. It's stuff like DirectX or the libraries in the console SDKs that make the difference. LastRambo341

TC banned again, that's twice in two weeks.carlisledavid79

Why was he banned ?

You can do everything on a PC.

The operative word is "can do."

People are lazy, they don't want to "do."

They want to buy and have the product "do."

That's what consoles offer, out-of-the-box gaming without having to build anything, install anything, change .ini files

It's a casual lifestyle, usually because people are busy with work and don't want to get distracted.

PC gaming is very immersive lifestyle.

You get hooked easy and spend alot of time.

Console gaming is more casual and easy.

LastRambo, my PC PC was made specifically for gaming. Why do you think there are companies that make parts specifically for gaming? Many GPU's and CPU's are offered to the gaming community, in terms of increasing the performance. (CPU's are more general, but gaming GPU's are gaming GPU's).

LastRambo, my PC PC was made specifically for gaming. Why do you think there are companies that make parts specifically for gaming? Many GPU's and CPU's are offered to the gaming community, in terms of increasing the performance. (CPU's are more general, but gaming GPU's are gaming GPU's).

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