Well, that didn't take long, PC gets GDDR5 system RAM support

[QUOTE="savagetwinkie"][QUOTE="clyde46"] Put one in your desktop, use a HDD as storage and it will be wonderful.clyde46

[QUOTE="savagetwinkie"][QUOTE="clyde46"] Put one in your desktop, use a HDD as storage and it will be wonderful.clyde46

Hm, I can also get a sub-minute boot with my HDD. Takes some 40 seconds for my PC to boot up, I'm using Win7...

That considered out of the ordinary?

[QUOTE="clyde46"][QUOTE="savagetwinkie"] it's not, thats why i took them out, figured i couldn find something niftiers to attach them too. Windoze sets me up with a 32gb paging file, I have little room for applications left so its at a point where the miniscule amount of time it shaves off of loading didn't benefit over a nice 750gb hybrid with 2 2tb drives in a raid 1 for mass storage savagetwinkie

That's probably not it

[QUOTE="clyde46"][QUOTE="savagetwinkie"] it's not, thats why i took them out, figured i couldn find something niftiers to attach them too. Windoze sets me up with a 32gb paging file, I have little room for applications left so its at a point where the miniscule amount of time it shaves off of loading didn't benefit over a nice 750gb hybrid with 2 2tb drives in a raid 1 for mass storage savagetwinkie

[QUOTE="clyde46"][QUOTE="savagetwinkie"] it's not, thats why i took them out, figured i couldn find something niftiers to attach them too. Windoze sets me up with a 32gb paging file, I have little room for applications left so its at a point where the miniscule amount of time it shaves off of loading didn't benefit over a nice 750gb hybrid with 2 2tb drives in a raid 1 for mass storage Rocker6

Hm, I can also get a sub-minute boot with my HDD. Takes some 40 seconds for my PC to boot up, I'm using Win7...

That considered out of the ordinary?

[QUOTE="savagetwinkie"][QUOTE="lostrib"]

Except I (and I would assume most people) don't have windows 8

Pretty sure it also helps my desktop wake from sleep faster, and opens other programs faster.  Also, it's quiet, unlike other high speed drives like my WD Black

[QUOTE="savagetwinkie"][QUOTE="lostrib"]

Except I (and I would assume most people) don't have windows 8

lostrib

Pretty sure it also helps my desktop wake from sleep faster, and opens other programs faster.  Also, it's quiet, unlike other high speed drives like my WD Black

My roommate's new sytem we put together has an SSD for the OS. It's fantastic. So much more than just start up time, which is stupid fast (less than 30 seconds. I'd actually be shocked if it was a full 20). Besides start up time, just.. everything goes faster. Opening programs and folders, copy/pasting things, editing music/videos/photos... all so fast and responsive its crazy.

To be fair, if you can get sub 1 minute boots with a standard drive then props to you. I got my SSD because I was sick to death waiting ages for Windows to boot. I need to get another SSD to put into my Macbook Pro now. clyde46

[QUOTE="clyde46"][QUOTE="savagetwinkie"] I don't think the drive is your problem then, you might just have a **** PCsavagetwinkie

[QUOTE="lostrib"]

[QUOTE="savagetwinkie"] 50 seconds for windows 7, and it's closer to 30 with an ssd, 20 hole seconds, but I never shut the desktop off so boot speed is... pointless.savagetwinkie

Pretty sure it also helps my desktop wake from sleep faster, and opens other programs faster.  Also, it's quiet, unlike other high speed drives like my WD Black

Wouldnt an SSD be helpful because it would be faster to retrieve the ram data from the hard drive

[QUOTE="Rocker6"]

[QUOTE="clyde46"] To be fair, if you can get sub 1 minute boots with a standard drive then props to you. I got my SSD because I was sick to death waiting ages for Windows to boot. I need to get another SSD to put into my Macbook Pro now. clyde46

Hm, I can also get a sub-minute boot with my HDD. Takes some 40 seconds for my PC to boot up, I'm using Win7...

That considered out of the ordinary?

For me, last Windows reinstall was a little over a year ago, when I upgraded my CPU. Right now, have some 550GB free space on the HDD...

[QUOTE="savagetwinkie"][QUOTE="clyde46"] 2600K, 8GB and 580. Only problem, 2 year old Windows install. clyde46

[QUOTE="savagetwinkie"][QUOTE="lostrib"]

Pretty sure it also helps my desktop wake from sleep faster, and opens other programs faster.  Also, it's quiet, unlike other high speed drives like my WD Black

Wouldnt an SSD be helpful because it would be faster to retrieve the ram data from the hard drive

I love the way this thread has turned into a discussion about SSDs. 

I love the way this thread has turned into a discussion about SSDs. 

psymon100

Here is the facts of the matter, it dont matter that the PS4 gpu is based GCN 2 and that it has GDDR5 in the grand scheme of things. The PS4 gpu is more or less a slightly souped up 7850 type gpu. No where near 7870 level of processing power ie 1.8 vs 2.5 TFLOP. GCN vs GCN 2 there is no real architectural changes between the two gpu architecture. Now GCN 2 does has improvements with communication between cpu and gpu on an APU die. Some screaming optimization to allow a specific gpu perform better then gpu's that ares 30% to over 100% faster its just dumb and short sighted and have no understanding the what and the why. Especially with gpu's that are beyond 50% faster then the PS4 gpu will not be able to match performance nor same graphical effects. Anyone comparing a 7970 to PS4 gpu :lol: its no different from comparing a Geforce 8800 to 360/PS3....

Where's the optimization allowing those consoles to look andperform better then that gpu? optimization is not magic as some may think

[QUOTE="jhonMalcovich"]

A PC hd7850 game means a game that a PC with ATI 7850 can play in 1080p, high details and 30+fps. Right now PS4 didn´t show anything what a 7850 couldn´t run.

If PS4  GPU is so much more optimized and faster than 7850, why don´t you show us some games or some benchmarks to support that claim ? Is having common sense too dumb for you ?

tormentos

So by your own measure, you admit nobody will be able to notice the difference between a 7850/70 and the PS4? That was my angle. 

Maybe in a couple years they'll optimize better. That is, when the same APU is available from AMD to the PC market and PS4 will be equivalent to a IGP. It took until Trinity to match 360/PS3 with an integrated solution. That's what, 6-7yrs.? Now it will be 1yr. from release to match 720, and 2yrs. to match PS4 with an APU/IGP. Damn, the loop is closing fast.

No one denied consoles are more efficient than the PC, but the problem is, you act like optimization is some magic, and have failed to back up your speculation about PS4 reaching 7970 levels of performance with any proof...Rocker6

Wait. What good is this all if Windows keeps on being crap in future iterations?

So by your own measure, you admit nobody will be able to notice the difference between a 7850/70 and the PS4? That was my angle. 

Maybe in a couple years they'll optimize better. That is, when the same APU is available from AMD to the PC market and PS4 will be equivalent to a IGP. It took until Trinity to match 360/PS3 with an integrated solution. That's what, 6-7yrs.? Now it will be 1yr. from release to match 720, and 2yrs. to match PS4 with an APU/IGP. Damn, the loop is closing fast.

gamecubepad

[QUOTE="gamecubepad"]So by your own measure, you admit nobody will be able to notice the difference between a 7850/70 and the PS4? That was myangle. 

Maybe in a couple years they'll optimize better. That is, when the same APU is available from AMD to the PC market and PS4 will be equivalent to a IGP. It took until Trinity to match 360/PS3 with an integrated solution. That's what, 6-7yrs.? Now it will be 1yr. from release to match 720, and 2yrs. to match PS4 with an APU/IGP. Damn, the loop is closing fast.

tormentos

Coding to metal only allows so much and you still cant surpass the hardware's physical processing limts. Also having the cpu and gpu on same die means squat  when your using a mediocre low clocked cpu. Also they will never allocate more then 4gb for the gpu because of all the other items requiring memory, let alone allocating 6gb for 1080 is pointless waste of resources.... but you wouldnt know that. Also you shouldnt hype GCN 2 because GCN vs GCN 2 there is no real architectural changes between the two gpu architecture's also HSA stack is also on Pc.

There is a point you keep on looking past is that there is no native direct x 11 based games that are not in some way affected by current consoles or the majority targeted audience/hardware. There is more then just stating that 7970 will only be able to match graphics at higher resolution and better framerate. There are multiple factors where a 7970 will totally kick the crap out of the PS4's gpu. physics, heavy shader workloads like global illumination and even tesselation. Also :lol: 1080 vs 1200 thats only 10% pixel difference. while the 7970 with its 384bit bus and  264GB/s and being over 2x faster wont have any bearing in the end. 

 Anyone comparing a PS4 gpu  to 7970 is just plain funny.... its no different from comparing a Geforce 8800GT to 360/PS3....

 Optimization is not allowing these consoles to look and perform better then that gpu... Optimization is not magic as some may think. fact is that a 7870 with a modern cpu will match or outperform the PS4 at the same grahpical settings. And anyone with a 7950 or 7970/ GTX 660ti+ will be just fine being able to pull off more graphical effects and better performance.

Please dude the 7870 and the 7850 are not as efficient as the PS4 and can't be code to the metal on PC,and don't have the CPU on the same die with like 6GB of memory for video,in fact the PS4 GPU has GCN2 features like HSA which the 7850 and 7870 lack.tormentos

But it's still within 5% theoretical performance of the 7850. Also, KZ SF looking more 7850/70, much less 7970 in quality. 

You're basically asserting that PC won't get more graphically intense games, so that will mitigate the performance advantage of the 7870, 7950, and 7979. Like the PS4 1080p, 30fps, mlaa is the bar, and nothing will scale above that? Sorry to burst your bubble, DF is saying KZ SF, Sony exclusive, is looking behind C2.

That's reality, not some guaranteed 100% increase in in-game performance over theoretical performance. 

I'll remain skeptical while you cows repeat the Cell debacle and continue to worship the "GodStation 4".

Listen I know this is tough for some hermits to swallow, but I understand you may have spent a good amount of money on your PC lately and now with the PS4 showing the specs it has its a tough pill to swallow, for sure. But at the end of the day you built that PC for a reason because that is your platform of choice, so be it. I don't understand why people get so up in arms about this irrelevant garbage. I like all platforms to an extent, embrace it, don't be against it. Competition is good, not terrible. PC hardware wise will always have the advantage as it has plently of manufacturers building and engineering the hardware for it. PC is a living breathing animal always changing.

With that being said, like I said earlier in this thread, all the hardware in the world is not going to matter unless a developer takes full advantage of said hardware. We can sit here all night long and talk about what this platform does or does not do or what that platform does etc. All of it is irrelevant unless a developer dedicates a majority of its time into the graphics, and physics of its game. PC as much as it gets upgrades is also its worst enemy. Devs don't get the time to fully max out the hardware that comes out as it is quickly replaced within a years time with a tweaked video card or chipset that does something a little different and better. Devs have to adjust to that, therefore an strides they made with the older hardware no longer matters. Then on top of that they have to also take into consideration the other hundred different brands of GPU, memory, and Intel setups to make sure that their game runs fluidly.

Both platforms have their pros and cons.

Even Crysis from 2007 has better graphics than killzone shadowfall.

[spoiler]

[/spoiler]

[spoiler] :P  [/spoiler]

Don't piss in the cows cornflakes.

 

The peasants don't often get moments to stand tall.

tenaka2

[QUOTE="tormentos"]Please dude the 7870 and the 7850 are not as efficient as the PS4 and can't be code to the metal on PC,and don't have the CPU on the same die with like 6GB of memory for video,in fact the PS4 GPU has GCN2 features like HSA which the 7850 and 7870 lack.gamecubepad

But it's still within 5% theoretical performance of the 7850. Also, KZ SF looking more 7850/70, much less 7970 in quality. 

You're basically asserting that PC won't get more graphically intense games, so that will mitigate the performance advantage of the 7870, 7950, and 7979. Like the PS4 1080p, 30fps, mlaa is the bar, and nothing will scale above that? Sorry to burst your bubble, DF is saying KZ SF, Sony exclusive, is looking behind C2.

That's reality, not some guaranteed 100% increase in in-game performance over theoretical performance. 

I'll remain skeptical while you cows repeat the Cell debacle and continue to worship the "GodStation 4".

You are so  delusional its hillarous.  A 7870 and 7950 are going to produce the same quality of visuals , the 7950 would just do it at higher frames.  The textures and shaders on both cards would be nearly identical when it came to ingame perofrmance.  Lets hear you flap your mouth when the final version of the game is released and you watch a launch title blow away most pc games . 

Even Crysis from 2007 has better graphics than killzone shadowfall.

 

 

[spoiler]

[/spoiler]

 

[spoiler] :P  [/spoiler]

FashionFreak

Ehh no it doesnt .  You would have to mod the hell out of it. 

[QUOTE="FashionFreak"]

Even Crysis from 2007 has better graphics than killzone shadowfall.

 

 

[spoiler]

[/spoiler]

 

[spoiler] :P  [/spoiler]

AM-Gamer

Ehh no it doesnt .  You would have to mod the hell out of it. 

You are not a smart man

[QUOTE="gamecubepad"]

[QUOTE="tormentos"]Please dude the 7870 and the 7850 are not as efficient as the PS4 and can't be code to the metal on PC,and don't have the CPU on the same die with like 6GB of memory for video,in fact the PS4 GPU has GCN2 features like HSA which the 7850 and 7870 lack.AM-Gamer

But it's still within 5% theoretical performance of the 7850. Also, KZ SF looking more 7850/70, much less 7970 in quality. 

You're basically asserting that PC won't get more graphically intense games, so that will mitigate the performance advantage of the 7870, 7950, and 7979. Like the PS4 1080p, 30fps, mlaa is the bar, and nothing will scale above that? Sorry to burst your bubble, DF is saying KZ SF, Sony exclusive, is looking behind C2.

That's reality, not some guaranteed 100% increase in in-game performance over theoretical performance. 

I'll remain skeptical while you cows repeat the Cell debacle and continue to worship the "GodStation 4".

You are so  delusional its hillarous.  A 7870 and 7950 are going to produce the same quality of visuals , the 7950 would just do it at higher frames.  The textures and shaders on both cards would be nearly identical when it came to ingame perofrmance.  Lets hear you flap your mouth when the final version of the game is released and you watch a launch title blow away most pc games . 

And if it doesnt?

[QUOTE="FashionFreak"]

Even Crysis from 2007 has better graphics than killzone shadowfall.

 

 

[spoiler]

[/spoiler]

 

[spoiler] :P  [/spoiler]

AM-Gamer

Ehh no it doesnt .  You would have to mod the hell out of it. 

[QUOTE="tormentos"][QUOTE="gamecubepad"]So by your own measure, you admit nobody will be able to notice the difference between a 7850/70 and the PS4? That was myangle. 

Maybe in a couple years they'll optimize better. That is, when the same APU is available from AMD to the PC market and PS4 will be equivalent to a IGP. It took until Trinity to match 360/PS3 with an integrated solution. That's what, 6-7yrs.? Now it will be 1yr. from release to match 720, and 2yrs. to match PS4 with an APU/IGP. Damn, the loop is closing fast.

04dcarraher

Coding to metal only allows so much and you still cant surpass the hardware's physical processing limts. Also having the cpu and gpu on same die means squat  when your using a mediocre low clocked cpu. Also they will never allocate more then 4gb for the gpu because of all the other items requiring memory, let alone allocating 6gb for 1080 is pointless waste of resources.... but you wouldnt know that. Also you shouldnt hype GCN 2 because GCN vs GCN 2 there is no real architectural changes between the two gpu architecture's also HSA stack is also on Pc.

There is a point you keep on looking past is that there is no native direct x 11 based games that are not in some way affected by current consoles or the majority targeted audience/hardware. There is more then just stating that 7970 will only be able to match graphics at higher resolution and better framerate. There are multiple factors where a 7970 will totally kick the crap out of the PS4's gpu. physics, heavy shader workloads like global illumination and even tesselation. Also :lol: 1080 vs 1200 thats only 10% pixel difference. while the 7970 with its 384bit bus and  264GB/s and being over 2x faster wont have any bearing in the end. 

 Anyone comparing a PS4 gpu  to 7970 is just plain funny.... its no different from comparing a Geforce 8800GT to 360/PS3....

 Optimization is not allowing these consoles to look and perform better then that gpu... Optimization is not magic as some may think. fact is that a 7870 with a modern cpu will match or outperform the PS4 at the same grahpical settings. And anyone with a 7950 or 7970/ GTX 660ti+ will be just fine being able to pull off more graphical effects and better performance.

For someone who talks alot you sure dont know much.  More graphical effects?  There all DX11.1 cards the effects will be the same.  There is not a single game out that couldnt be done on the PS4 to its maximum settings as long as they stick with 1080p and 30 to 60fps.  You will not be getting any better texutres , lighting or shaders because the effects on these cards are virtually identical.  You Act as if a 7970 is 5 years ahead of the PS4 when in fact it will probalby at best keep up . 

[QUOTE="AM-Gamer"]

[QUOTE="FashionFreak"]

Even Crysis from 2007 has better graphics than killzone shadowfall.

 

 

[spoiler]

[/spoiler]

 

[spoiler] :P  [/spoiler]

wis3boi

Ehh no it doesnt .  You would have to mod the hell out of it. 

Yea , I beat crysis back in 2009.  I built a brand new rig with a GTX285 and maxed it , only to be horribly disapointed with the fact that at its best settings it looked nowhere near as good as any of the screenshots.  But then again when people post thumbnail pics and talk about it like its still the best looking game in existence rather then acutally playing ohter games that blow it out of the water what do you expect?  A PS4 has the specs to blow Crysis level visuals out of the water so the fact that hermits desperately still post the pictures is sad and typical.

[QUOTE="wis3boi"]

[QUOTE="AM-Gamer"]

 

Ehh no it doesnt .  You would have to mod the hell out of it. 

AM-Gamer

Yea , I beat crysis back in 2009.  I built a brand new rig with a GTX285 and maxed it , only to be horribly disapointed with the fact that at its best settings it looked nowhere near as good as any of the screenshots.  But then again when people post thumbnail pics and talk about it like its still the best looking game in existence rather then acutally playing ohter games that blow it out of the water what do you expect?  A PS4 has the specs to blow Crysis level visuals out of the water so the fact that hermits desperately still post the pictures is sad and typical.

Whoosh

[QUOTE="AM-Gamer"]

[QUOTE="FashionFreak"]

Even Crysis from 2007 has better graphics than killzone shadowfall.

 

 

[spoiler]

[/spoiler]

 

[spoiler] :P  [/spoiler]

lostrib

Ehh no it doesnt .  You would have to mod the hell out of it. 

You are not a smart man

Im not the one saying Crysis 1 is beyond anything on next gen consoles.  The PS4 for somereason has you all so butthurt and rabbid its emberassing. I may not even buy one but the fact that its got hermits up in arms is hillarous.  

[QUOTE="04dcarraher"]

[QUOTE="tormentos"] Please dude the 7870 and the 7850 are not as efficient as the PS4 and can't be code to the metal on PC,and don't have the CPU on the same die with like 6GB of memory for video,in fact the PS4 GPU has GCN2 features like HSA which the 7850 and 7870 lack. At 1080p there will be a point were you can't get any more from your 7870 do to efficiency,while the PS4 GPU will continue to do so,the 7850 and the 7970 running at 1080 will deliver the same quality not because the are on part but because games on PC are make in a way so that every GPU use its power as it best can,so rather than the 7970 give you more visuals at 1080 it will give you more frames. When you crank up the resolution the stronger GPU keep the frame rate a little or allot smoother depending on which model you have,and the weaker one will show its weakness,in this particular case the PS4 is not even targeting 1920x1200 is targeting 1920x1080,even lower and is not certainly targeting 2560x1600 which even the slower 7850 can hit. So unlike the 7970 the PS4 at 1080p will put those extra resources to work on more things and better quality.AM-Gamer

Coding to metal only allows so much and you still cant surpass the hardware's physical processing limts. Also having the cpu and gpu on same die means squat  when your using a mediocre low clocked cpu. Also they will never allocate more then 4gb for the gpu because of all the other items requiring memory, let alone allocating 6gb for 1080 is pointless waste of resources.... but you wouldnt know that. Also you shouldnt hype GCN 2 because GCN vs GCN 2 there is no real architectural changes between the two gpu architecture's also HSA stack is also on Pc.

There is a point you keep on looking past is that there is no native direct x 11 based games that are not in some way affected by current consoles or the majority targeted audience/hardware. There is more then just stating that 7970 will only be able to match graphics at higher resolution and better framerate. There are multiple factors where a 7970 will totally kick the crap out of the PS4's gpu. physics, heavy shader workloads like global illumination and even tesselation. Also :lol: 1080 vs 1200 thats only 10% pixel difference. while the 7970 with its 384bit bus and  264GB/s and being over 2x faster wont have any bearing in the end. 

 Anyone comparing a PS4 gpu  to 7970 is just plain funny.... its no different from comparing a Geforce 8800GT to 360/PS3....

 Optimization is not allowing these consoles to look and perform better then that gpu... Optimization is not magic as some may think. fact is that a 7870 with a modern cpu will match or outperform the PS4 at the same grahpical settings. And anyone with a 7950 or 7970/ GTX 660ti+ will be just fine being able to pull off more graphical effects and better performance.

For someone who talks alot you sure dont know much.  More graphical effects?  There all DX11.1 cards the effects will be the same.  There is not a single game out that couldnt be done on the PS4 to its maximum settings as long as they stick with 1080p and 30 to 60fps.  You will not be getting any better texutres , lighting or shaders because the effects on these cards are virtually identical.  You Act as if a 7970 is 5 years ahead of the PS4 when in fact it will probalby at best keep up . 

[QUOTE="lostrib"]

[QUOTE="AM-Gamer"]

 

Ehh no it doesnt .  You would have to mod the hell out of it. 

AM-Gamer

You are not a smart man

Im not the one saying Crysis 1 is beyond anything on next gen consoles.  The PS4 for somereason has you all so butthurt and rabbid its emberassing. I may not even buy one but the fact that its got hermits up in arms is hillarous.  

yes, it's "hillarous". dumb

[QUOTE="lostrib"]

[QUOTE="AM-Gamer"]

 

Ehh no it doesnt .  You would have to mod the hell out of it. 

AM-Gamer

You are not a smart man

Im not the one saying Crysis 1 is beyond anything on next gen consoles. 

Neither was the poster you quoted. You clearly didnt look under the spoiler tags, or you did and are just lying to get attention like a bratty child

[QUOTE="lostrib"]

[QUOTE="AM-Gamer"]

 

Ehh no it doesnt .  You would have to mod the hell out of it. 

AM-Gamer

You are not a smart man

Im not the one saying Crysis 1 is beyond anything on next gen consoles.  The PS4 for somereason has you all so butthurt and rabbid its emberassing. I may not even buy one but the fact that its got hermits up in arms is hillarous.  

[QUOTE="AM-Gamer"]

[QUOTE="lostrib"]

You are not a smart man

wis3boi

Im not the one saying Crysis 1 is beyond anything on next gen consoles. 

Neither was the poster you quoted. You clearly didnt look under the spoiler tags, or you did and are just lying to get attention like a bratty child

He is so slow

[QUOTE="AM-Gamer"]

[QUOTE="lostrib"]

You are not a smart man

04dcarraher

Im not the one saying Crysis 1 is beyond anything on next gen consoles.  The PS4 for somereason has you all so butthurt and rabbid its emberassing. I may not even buy one but the fact that its got hermits up in arms is hillarous.  

So faster hardware allows more graphical effects?  Last time I checked it allowed them to be played at higher res and higher framerates.  The same effects are still dooable on DX11 cards.  There is no pc game out right now that the PS4 couldnt run as long as it sticks in 1080p and 30 to 60fps . Do you acutally deny that? 

[QUOTE="wis3boi"]

[QUOTE="AM-Gamer"]

 

Ehh no it doesnt .  You would have to mod the hell out of it. 

AM-Gamer

Yea , I beat crysis back in 2009.  I built a brand new rig with a GTX285 and maxed it , only to be horribly disapointed with the fact that at its best settings it looked nowhere near as good as any of the screenshots.  But then again when people post thumbnail pics and talk about it like its still the best looking game in existence rather then acutally playing ohter games that blow it out of the water what do you expect?  A PS4 has the specs to blow Crysis level visuals out of the water so the fact that hermits desperately still post the pictures is sad and typical.

[QUOTE="AM-Gamer"]

[QUOTE="lostrib"]

You are not a smart man

lostrib

Im not the one saying Crysis 1 is beyond anything on next gen consoles.  The PS4 for somereason has you all so butthurt and rabbid its emberassing. I may not even buy one but the fact that its got hermits up in arms is hillarous.  

yes, it's "hillarous". dumb

OH NOES THE SPELLING POLICE.  Its ok kid you can still build a budget pc and play games the PS4 wont stop that. 

[QUOTE="lostrib"]

[QUOTE="AM-Gamer"]

Im not the one saying Crysis 1 is beyond anything on next gen consoles.  The PS4 for somereason has you all so butthurt and rabbid its emberassing. I may not even buy one but the fact that its got hermits up in arms is hillarous.  

AM-Gamer

yes, it's "hillarous". dumb

OH NOES THE SPELLING POLICE.  Its ok kid you can still build a budget pc and play games the PS4 wont stop that. 

0/10

[QUOTE="lostrib"]

[QUOTE="AM-Gamer"]

Im not the one saying Crysis 1 is beyond anything on next gen consoles.  The PS4 for somereason has you all so butthurt and rabbid its emberassing. I may not even buy one but the fact that its got hermits up in arms is hillarous.  

AM-Gamer

yes, it's "hillarous". dumb

OH NOES THE SPELLING POLICE.  Its ok kid you can still build a budget pc and play games the PS4 wont stop that. 

Um okay, you're still dumb

[QUOTE="AM-Gamer"]

[QUOTE="wis3boi"]

 

Tessellation

Yea , I beat crysis back in 2009.  I built a brand new rig with a GTX285 and maxed it , only to be horribly disapointed with the fact that at its best settings it looked nowhere near as good as any of the screenshots.  But then again when people post thumbnail pics and talk about it like its still the best looking game in existence rather then acutally playing ohter games that blow it out of the water what do you expect?  A PS4 has the specs to blow Crysis level visuals out of the water so the fact that hermits desperately still post the pictures is sad and typical.

You dont even know the definition of an excuse . :lol:

[QUOTE="AM-Gamer"]

[QUOTE="lostrib"]

yes, it's "hillarous". dumb

lostrib

OH NOES THE SPELLING POLICE.  Its ok kid you can still build a budget pc and play games the PS4 wont stop that. 

Um okay, you're still dumb

How old are you 6?  That was such a witty comeback . 

[QUOTE="lostrib"]

[QUOTE="AM-Gamer"]

OH NOES THE SPELLING POLICE.  Its ok kid you can still build a budget pc and play games the PS4 wont stop that. 

AM-Gamer

Um okay, you're still dumb

How old are you 6?  That was such a witty comeback . 

Well, check out your self projection

[QUOTE="lostrib"]

[QUOTE="AM-Gamer"]

OH NOES THE SPELLING POLICE.  Its ok kid you can still build a budget pc and play games the PS4 wont stop that. 

AM-Gamer

Um okay, you're still dumb

How old are you 6?  That was such a witty comeback . 

No, are you really not getting it?

You dont even know the definition fo an excuse . :lol:AM-Gamer

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Im not the one saying Crysis 1 is beyond anything on next gen consoles.  The PS4 for somereason has you all so butthurt and rabbid its emberassing. I may not even buy one but the fact that its got hermits up in arms is hillarous.  

AM-Gamer

So faster hardware allows more graphical effects?  Last time I checked it allowed them to be played at higher res and higher framerates.  The same effects are still dooable on DX11 cards.  There is no pc game out right now that the PS4 couldnt run as long as it sticks in 1080p and 30 to 60fps . Do you acutally deny that? 

I'm pretty sure if you don't have the POWER from the GPU you need to cut some features... hence why there's different levels of options in the graphic menu of any game.

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Um okay, you're still dumb

lostrib

How old are you 6?  That was such a witty comeback . 

No, are you really not getting it?

Oh I get it, Im surrounded by butt hurt hermits who do the exact same thing every generation a new console comes out.  This is exactly how it was when the PS3 and 360 came out nearly 7 years ago.