Why do consoles exist?

Consoles could die and no one would notice. Think about it we got cameras because they are good at taking pictures, video cameras because they are good at taking videos. On the other hand we got consoles for what? Everything a console can do a PC could do it 10 times better. Contrary to that a dedicated camera takes better pictures than a mobile phone. So what are consoles good for?

MK-Professor

Except no one wants to deal with the diaper rash known as PC maintenance and up keep.

Consoles play all the games made for them throughout the gen.

The same cannot be said for PC Gaming, you have to upgrade hardware and software almost frequently.

Also everyone notices consoles because they get so much more games.

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[QUOTE="NerubianWeaver"]

No $500 Rig can max games for a very long time without upgrading one of its component. And then again any technical superiority that PC's hold over consoles doesn't matter to a casual gamer. Only people in this Forum are being pedantic when it comes to textures and resolution.

NerubianWeaver

Who said that $500 Rig could max games? What I said is that a $500 Rig can play multiplats with better graphics than consoles.

Can a $500 rig play games graphically like Uncharted 2? And even running games like Metro, Just cause 2 at medium will stutter. It's advisable to upgrade in that current situation.

Consoles run games like that: 1280x720 or 1024x600, 25-30fps, 0xAA or 2xAA, medium setting etc.
So a $500 Rig can defiantly play with better graphics than that.

I like how console games online b arely lasts more than 4 years. Sniping_Crowbar

Yea its pretty nice to get fresh games.

Being stuck with old games is no fun.

[QUOTE="Sniping_Crowbar"]I like how console games online b arely lasts more than 4 years. EvanTheGamer

Yea its pretty nice to get fresh games.

Being stuck with old games is no fun.

Yeah its pretty nice not to be limited by a company's financial interest.

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[QUOTE="NerubianWeaver"]

4) You have to spend $500-800 or even more just to buy a Gaming PC. It's not cheap, it's still expensive than consoles. Besides you have to upgrade it just to play latest games at a playable framerate. The initial investment on PC is very expensive, average consumers can't suddenly withdraw $600-1000 just to buy a PC. While the prices of the consoles are less than $500.

5) It's not easy. You have to build a PC which an average consumer won't do just to play games. They just want to play games by inserting disc then play. And if you recommend buying a prebuilt; it's 2-3x more expensive than consoles. Consoles are still much more convenient than PC

NerubianWeaver

Wrong, you do not need to buy a "gaming Pc" to game, If you or your family has bought a Pc in the last 3 years chances are you only need to spend $60 to turn that family/multimedia Pc into a gaming Pc that can out do the consoles. Also its as easy as you make it with Pc gaming, theirs a program called STEAM which does everything for you and you dont even have to have a disc or go the store to buy a game. So are consoles that more convenient ? It all depends on how you think.

$60 after rebate :roll: with a gpu thats multiple times better then a console gpu.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125288&cm_re=9800gt-_-14-125-288-_-Product Also every Pc has a cpu, memory and motherboard.

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[QUOTE="Sniping_Crowbar"]I like how console games online b arely lasts more than 4 years. Sniping_Crowbar

Yea its pretty nice to get fresh games.

Being stuck with old games is no fun.

Yeah its pretty nice not to be limited by a company's financial interest.

Financial interest is why consoles get so much more games and, We Think its Nice :D

[QUOTE="NerubianWeaver"][QUOTE="04dcarraher"]

Wrong, you do not need to buy a "gaming Pc" to game, If you or your family has bought a Pc in the last 3 years chances are you only need to spend $60 to turn that family/multimedia Pc into a gaming Pc that can out do the consoles. Also its as easy as you make it with Pc gaming, theirs a program called STEAM which does everything for you and you dont even have to have a disc or go the store to buy a game. So are consoles that more convenient ? It all depends on how you think.

04dcarraher

$60 after rebate :roll: with a gpu thats multiple times better then a console gpu.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125288&cm_re=9800gt-_-14-125-288-_-Product Also every Pc has a cpu, memory and motherboard.

How about the PSU then? Most Prebuilt PCs come with a low power PSU. Would it run the 9800 GT? Also the CPU. Some Family computers are equipped with Pentium IV/Celeron. I'm sure you have to upgrade it to run games like Just Cause 2 and Crysis. :roll:

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[QUOTE="Arach666"] A $500 rig(chassis and components only)can run Crysis on high,wich already looks better than Uncharted 2.04dcarraher

It might play all of the games, but very few of the new games will not play on high or even medium settings. And i doubt that rig will last more than 6 months

Today you can buy a Pc gpu for your computer Thats $60 thats nearly 4x faster with 2x the memory then console's gpu to allow higher detail and resolutions. Also the fact that a 3 year old 8800Gt says Hello there and is still playing games on high setttings or maxing them out while playing at a higher resolutions then the consoles can do.

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[QUOTE="Arach666"] A $500 rig(chassis and components only)can run Crysis on high,wich already looks better than Uncharted 2.Arach666

It might play all of the games, but very few of the new games will not play on high or even medium settings. And i doubt that rig will last more than 6 months

As far as multiplats go,it will play at a similar quality of the consoles and generally better.

And no,it would hold a lot more than 6 months. Just to put you in perspective,I bougth my rig over a year ago and it can still hold it´s own maxing everything that comes out now and will play most games on high for at least the next two years.

And even when the time comes when I no longer can max out most games,I will still get better performance and visuals on multiplats compared to their console counterparts.

So you build your rig a year ago without upgrading? So i have an Xbox 360 that was purchase from the year 2005. It can play games like Gears of War 2, Forza 3, and Alan Wake. Find me a gaming PC that was built on 2005 that can still play modern games games without upgrading any part at a high resolution. In fact PC is still expensive at that time :|

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It might play all of the games, but very few of the new games will not play on high or even medium settings. And i doubt that rig will last more than 6 months

Today you can buy a Pc gpu for your computer Thats $60 thats nearly 4x faster with 2x the memory then console's gpu to allow higher detail and resolutions. Also the fact that a 3 year old 8800Gt says Hello there and is still playing games on high setttings or maxing them out while playing at a higher resolutions then the consoles can do.

[QUOTE="04dcarraher"]

Not every Family has a family computer :| And lol at $60 you can't even buy a decent GPU with that let alone with other parts MOBO + CPU, PSUNerubianWeaver

$60 after rebate :roll: with a gpu thats multiple times better then a console gpu.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125288&cm_re=9800gt-_-14-125-288-_-Product Also every Pc has a cpu, memory and motherboard.

How about the PSU then? Most Prebuilt PCs come with a low power PSU. Would it run the 9800 GT? Also the CPU. Some Family computers are equipped with Pentium IV/Celeron. I'm sure you have to upgrade it to run games like Just Cause 2 and Crysis. :roll:

Consoles could die and no one would notice. Think about it we got cameras because they are good at taking pictures, video cameras because they are good at taking videos. On the other hand we got consoles for what? Everything a console can do a PC could do it 10 times better. Contrary to that a dedicated camera takes better pictures than a mobile phone. So what are consoles good for?

MK-Professor

Concoles are good for killing the almost dead pc games market in all of it's weak glory :P

P.S. The Old Republic, Diablo 3 and Starcraft 2 notwithstanding. That being said they should just be on consoles as well anyway. You know....the real gaming machines.

[QUOTE="NerubianWeaver"][QUOTE="04dcarraher"] Consoler Alert!!!!

Today you can buy a Pc gpu for your computer Thats $60 thats nearly 4x faster with 2x the memory then console's gpu to allow higher detail and resolutions. Also the fact that a 3 year old 8800Gt says Hello there and is still playing games on high setttings or maxing them out while playing at a higher resolutions then the consoles can do.

04dcarraher

And how much does it cost you? Is it Cheaper than Consoles?

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[QUOTE="04dcarraher"]

$60 after rebate :roll: with a gpu thats multiple times better then a console gpu.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125288&cm_re=9800gt-_-14-125-288-_-Product Also every Pc has a cpu, memory and motherboard.

04dcarraher

How about the PSU then? Most Prebuilt PCs come with a low power PSU. Would it run the 9800 GT? Also the CPU. Some Family computers are equipped with Pentium IV/Celeron. I'm sure you have to upgrade it to run games like Just Cause 2 and Crysis. :roll:

[QUOTE="04dcarraher"][QUOTE="NerubianWeaver"] :lol: I'm pretty sure you're lying. Can it run Crysis, Just cause 2, Metro, STALKER, and other future games at maximum setting at high resolution? I don't think so ;) Besides, not only you have to upgrade the GPU, you also have to upgrade PSU, CPU or even replace your MOBO.NerubianWeaver

And how much does it cost you? Is it Cheaper than Consoles?

If all your family have their own laptop then Pc gaming is a very limited option and money could have spent in a better way. But most families get a main Pc for everyone to use.

All i can say is that a heroic effort is necessary if we don't want PC gaming to die. Unfortunately, the most i can about PC gaming's condition is a petition targeting Square-Enix to make Final Fantasy games for the PC that aren't MMORPGs.

I love split-screen, offline coop PC games!

oh wait...

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Upgrade evey 2 months? for that i give you the dumb fU ck award.

washd123

sorry every 6 months. still less than ill ever upgrade my ps3 to play games at the best settings

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[QUOTE="Sniping_Crowbar"]

Upgrade evey 2 months? for that i give you the dumb fU ck award.

110million

sorry every 6 months. still less than ill ever upgrade my ps3 to play games at the best settings

Consoles are good for playing games. There, I answered your question. What do I win?

[QUOTE="110million"][QUOTE="washd123"]

sorry every 6 months. still less than ill ever upgrade my ps3 to play games at the best settings

Ravensmash

because people care more about consoles than pcTintedEyes

Is there any way to actually quantify that?

because people care more about consoles than pcTintedEyes

*scratches head*

That makes no sense :?

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Why are hermits demanding reasons for owning a console?

AdobeArtist

This, THIS is what should have been asked from the very beginning? What is it about a faction of PC gamers that makes them feel its some kind of crusade to convert console gamers to their ideology??

I dont see anyone demanding anything... Why do consolites make things up and over exadurate all the time?

[QUOTE="paullywog"]people are too stupid/lazy/cheap to dedicate any brain process or money to putting together a decent pc. thus, consoles exist.AdobeArtist

Great. Another 'PC gamers are the superior master species' post. Ironic that in how they try to present themselves as so much more advanced and sophisticated then console gamers, they actually prove just the opposite.

Yep, and your just as bad.

Yeah, well I usually upgrade every 2-3 years, long enough to play games on high, at much higher resolutions, much crisper images, much higher quality graphics than the PS3/360, I don't play console games for graphics, I have never played a console game that wow'd me with its graphics, unless it was artistic like Braid or Okami, I don't care about graphics that much, so I'm cool with playing a lot of console games. That said, best settings is a joke, when best settings is low-medium on PC, it doesn't mean much. Accept console graphics are always poor in comparison to PC and move on. 110million

my ps3 is 4 years old and has games like uncharted 2 and killzone 2 both that have better graphics than the almighty crysis which cannot even run on a 4 year old pc especially not one worth $400

I love split-screen, offline coop PC games!

oh wait...

JuarN18

*Resounding applause*

Hahahahaha here here, well said my man ;)

[QUOTE="TintedEyes"]because people care more about consoles than pclundy86_4

Is there any way to actually quantify that?

Sales?

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[QUOTE="TintedEyes"]because people care more about consoles than pcDarth-Samus

Is there any way to actually quantify that?

Sales?

[QUOTE="Darth-Samus"]

[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

Is there any way to actually quantify that?

GeneralShowzer

Sales?

Hmm. Okay how about popularity? Or quantity of software perhaps? Maybe overwhelmingly superior industry, media and developer support. I feel like any of those answers should suffice ;)

[QUOTE="GeneralShowzer"][QUOTE="Darth-Samus"]

Sales?

Darth-Samus

Hmm. Okay how about popularity? Or quantity of software perhaps? Maybe overwhelmingly superior industry, media and developer support. I feel like any of those answers should suffice ;)

ALso as far as sales go, I believe in the upper tiers of all video game software sales that the Sims (and possibly WoW) is the only PC game/gaming series represented among an absolute onslaught of console games ranging over the last 20 years and several generations. Not to mention looking at PC and laptop hardware sales could never ever ever be indicitive solely of PC "gamers" and consumers buying their units for the sole purpose or the major purpose of gaming. In fact I'd wager most of the planet (by a very large margin) buys a PC with zero gaming intentions in mind. So I don't know how the sales defense could really properly be made.

EDIT: Please keep in mind that while I am primarily a console gamer, that I am not agaist PC gaming and bear no grudge. I will play Old Republic and Diablo III to death. Just my objective opinion when weighing the facts. The facts just happen to weigh in favor of consoles.

[QUOTE="GeneralShowzer"][QUOTE="Darth-Samus"]

Sales?

Darth-Samus

Hmm. Okay how about popularity? Or quantity of software perhaps? Maybe overwhelmingly superior industry, media and developer support. I feel like any of those answers should suffice ;)

[QUOTE="110million"] Yeah, well I usually upgrade every 2-3 years, long enough to play games on high, at much higher resolutions, much crisper images, much higher quality graphics than the PS3/360, I don't play console games for graphics, I have never played a console game that wow'd me with its graphics, unless it was artistic like Braid or Okami, I don't care about graphics that much, so I'm cool with playing a lot of console games. That said, best settings is a joke, when best settings is low-medium on PC, it doesn't mean much. Accept console graphics are always poor in comparison to PC and move on. washd123

my ps3 is 4 years old and has games like uncharted 2 and killzone 2 both that have better graphics than the almighty crysis which cannot even run on a 4 year old pc especially not one worth $400

The 8800GTX that is older than the ps3 can run crysis with (1650x1050, high settings, 35fps) or (1280x720, very high settings, 35fps) and that is already look WAY BETTER than uncharted 2 and killzone 2... and that is a FACT

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[QUOTE="GeneralShowzer"] That's not it sorry... http://www.pcgamingalliance.org/GeneralShowzer

Hmm. Okay how about popularity? Or quantity of software perhaps? Maybe overwhelmingly superior industry, media and developer support. I feel like any of those answers should suffice ;)

lol at that website listing numbers for PCs "that could be used for gaming" what does that even mean? do we count pcs in calculator sales because "they could be used as calculators".

sorry but PC isnt the most popular gaming medium until we know how many pcs are actually used for gaming.

most cell phones can be used for gaming, in 2007 1.15 billion cell phones were sold.... so i guess technically cell phones are the largest and most popular gaming platform.

Ok then read this... http://software.intel.com/en-us/blogs/2009/03/03/just-how-many-pc-gamers-are-there/ Estimates are between 100 million and 200 million still more than any console combined.GeneralShowzer

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[QUOTE="AdobeArtist"]

Great. Another 'PC gamers are the superior master species' post. Ironic that in how they try to present themselves as so much more advanced and sophisticated then console gamers, they actually prove just the opposite.

stiggy321

Yep, and your just as bad.

If I knew a 23 year old who was still asking their parents for money for reasons that pointless I would tell them to get their stuff together or quit life now. I would also question their parents ability to raise children.