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#251 pelvist
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[QUOTE="pelvist"]

[QUOTE="AdobeArtist"]

Great. Another 'PC gamers are the superior master species' post. Ironic that in how they try to present themselves as so much more advanced and sophisticated then console gamers, they actually prove just the opposite.

stiggy321

Yep, and your just as bad.

13 year old children aren't allowed to make their own money, at least through official employment... and their brains are still developing. 33 year olds have jobs and put their money and "brain cells" towards a house and having a life instead of checking toms hardware for the latest GTX 460 benchmarks and thinking their "brain cells" are awesome because they can plug a cable into a hard drive and lock a piece of silicon into a slot. 23 year olds ask mommy to pay for a new gaming PC because Crysis is coming out and they have to have it. Then they buy Crysis and realize their mom just spent 2,000 dollars for them to play a video game with "ultra" high details where you can throw a chicken at a tree and break the tree at 20 frames per second... so they get bored and just go back to pornographic websites and Counter Strike 1.6. PC's can't play Halo 3... in split screen.

Im guessing your speaking from experience?

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#252 TerrorRizzing
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consoles started when people didnt have pcs. At the time pcs were quite limited anyway, it made sense to make one that could only play games.

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#253 04dcarraher
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[QUOTE="washd123"]

[QUOTE="110million"] Yeah, well I usually upgrade every 2-3 years, long enough to play games on high, at much higher resolutions, much crisper images, much higher quality graphics than the PS3/360, I don't play console games for graphics, I have never played a console game that wow'd me with its graphics, unless it was artistic like Braid or Okami, I don't care about graphics that much, so I'm cool with playing a lot of console games. That said, best settings is a joke, when best settings is low-medium on PC, it doesn't mean much. Accept console graphics are always poor in comparison to PC and move on. MK-Professor

my ps3 is 4 years old and has games like uncharted 2 and killzone 2 both that have better graphics than the almighty crysis which cannot even run on a 4 year old pc especially not one worth $400

The 8800GTX that is older than the ps3 can run crysis with (1650x1050, high settings, 35fps) or (1280x720, very high settings, 35fps) and that is already look WAY BETTER than uncharted 2 and killzone 2... and that is a FACT

They will never learn, Both games mentioned from PS3 above, arent that great looking comparing to Pc games that can use the extra juice, because of the low resolutions, low quality textures(namely KZ2) and no to very little filtering like AA and AF. Its funny that they try to compare consoles to Pc's that are two times or more faster/better. Both consoles are stuck in the 2004/2005 based hardware timeframe. Even when the 360 came out back in late 2005, in early 2006 Pc had the 8800GTX which was 3x faster with direct x 10 and had 3x the memory to allow those higher resolutions,and extras that the console cant use. They dont realize how much cutting,editing and toning down is done to a console game to make it work A.K.A run and look descent with their limited resources. Every, I mean every multipleform game looks better on Pc even with the same era hardware because those have more resources they can use. And some arguing that the RSX off the PS3 which is a stripped version of a normal 7800GTX try to say that it can out perform a full blown 7800GTX. Its like saying a 7800GS with 256mb will out perform a 7800GTX with 512mb, Its dumb, its like saying 60 mph is faster then 100 mph.

Some dont realize like a game like Crysis renders a whole level/ map at one time not in sections, which allows longer draw distances, and other odds and ends. Crysis can use well more then 1gb of system memory, and 512mb of video memory, and the consoles only have 256mb for system and 256mb for video. So it tells you that Crysis 2 will be stripped down to accommodate the Consoles.

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#255 04dcarraher
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consoles are obviously the smarter choice when it comes to gaming, one time investment (unless its a 360 lol)with low failure rates and ease of use. while with pcs you have to shell out 2.5 billion dollars every week just to be able to play the latest games. add to that it makes you a total shut in and wont let you invite friends over to play with you and dang those things are flimsy, all an idiot has to do is delete system 32 and BAM hes screwed if he dosent have a PHD in computer programming. which brings me to my point, consoles are definately the more sound investment.

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#256 Thessassin
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[QUOTE="Thessassin"]

consoles are obviously the smarter choice when it comes to gaming, one time investment (unless its a 360 lol)with low failure rates and ease of use. while with pcs you have to shell out 2.5 billion dollars every week just to be able to play the latest games. add to that it makes you a total shut in and wont let you invite friends over to play with you and dang those things are flimsy, all an idiot has to do is delete system 32 and BAM hes screwed if he dosent have a PHD in computer programming. which brings me to my point, consoles are definately the more sound investment.

04dcarraher

Not sure if serious :?

i prefer consoles more but that post was grossly exaggerated, but main point is console gaming is more social, cheaper, and less hassle, but pc gaming is definately better if you know how to work pcs and are willing to shell out your life savings. ;)

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#257 Half-Way
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yes we get it

console gaming is doomed

pc gaming is doomed

everything is doomed

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#258 Vadamee
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Tc, why d you exist. There are probably people who arer better then you in every way, so why are still existing.

Why have you yet to commit suicide, when there is no real point for you to live whe we don't need you.

How well does that logic work, not alot.

(no mods, im not telling him to kill himself.

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This is cruel and hilarious all at once.
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#259 lundy86_4
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[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

[QUOTE="TintedEyes"]because people care more about consoles than pcDarth-Samus

Is there any way to actually quantify that?

Sales?

That's not the way. A study was already done for sales of gaming capable machines (they're low-end were typically stripped down higher-end cards, such as the 5770, showing minimum performance was actually quite good), and they still sold well more than the consoles combined.

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#260 Jdog30
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because console are what nerds live for
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#261 Velvundrgnd
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because you cant play pc gamres on a couch with friends while relaxing, and you have to upgrade every two months just to be able to play games. plus consoles are so significantly cheaper.

in fact why does pc gaming still exist?

washd123

neither of the first 2 statements are true, the PC i built two years ago can run SC2 on high, and I can play Crysis from my couch using a 360 controller, as well as most valve games (if not all of them). PC gaming exists because people like it, like the controls, and because it is peripheral to the overall function of the device. What I mean is, why not keep PC gaming around? We will always have PC's...

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#262 Sandvichman
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Hermits in this thread have yet to answer why they are demanding console owner to justfiy their console purchase.

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#263 pelvist
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Hermits in this thread have yet to answer why they are demanding console owner to justfiy their console purchase.

Sandvichman

You are yet to show us where anyone 'demanded' anything of the sort. Why not stop over-exadurating and grow up a bit ey?

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#264 Guaracy-
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Consoles could die and no one would notice. Think about it we got cameras because they are good at taking pictures, video cameras because they are good at taking videos. On the other hand we got consoles for what? Everything a console can do a PC could do it 10 times better. Contrary to that a dedicated camera takes better pictures than a mobile phone. So what are consoles good for?

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Consoles exist because almost 1 billion units of them have been sold worldwide.
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#265 ZIVX
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Because people wish them to

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#266 Sandvichman
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[QUOTE="pelvist"]

[QUOTE="Sandvichman"]

Hermits in this thread have yet to answer why they are demanding console owner to justfiy their console purchase.

You are yet to show us where anyone 'demanded' anything of the sort. Why not stop over-exadurating and grow up a bit ey?

Did you even read the tc?
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#268 JuarN18
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[QUOTE="TintedEyes"]because people care more about consoles than pclundy86_4

Is there any way to actually quantify that?

Sales are not enough? developer's support?
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#269 SamiRDuran
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[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

[QUOTE="TintedEyes"]because people care more about consoles than pcJuarN18

Is there any way to actually quantify that?

Sales are not enough? developer's support?

pc has more high rated exclusives than any console and even if you count ONLY the steam community it is still bigger than psn and xbox live. so?
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#270 JuarN18
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Ok then read this... http://software.intel.com/en-us/blogs/2009/03/03/just-how-many-pc-gamers-are-there/ Estimates are between 100 million and 200 million still more than any console combined.GeneralShowzer
Those numbers count last gen pc's?

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#271 JuarN18
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pc has more high rated exclusives than any console and even if you count ONLY the steam community it is still bigger than psn and xbox live. so?SamiRDuran
steam has alot of games than can be played in last gen hardware, do we put the PS2 in there too? why ignoring the wii? and i'm not talking about reviews either

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#272 SamiRDuran
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[QUOTE="SamiRDuran"]pc has more high rated exclusives than any console and even if you count ONLY the steam community it is still bigger than psn and xbox live. so?JuarN18

steam has alot of games than can be played in last gen hardware, do we put the PS2 in there too? why ignoring the wii? and i'm not talking about reviews either

because the wii doesnt have much of an online community? ps2 doesnt have an active community either anymore. you said that people care more about consoles which means that xbox live and psn should be bigger but they are not. PC sales globally are in billions so we cant really use that as an argument. the only thing we can compare is size of communities and games.
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#273 StrawberryHill
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[QUOTE="washd123"]

because you cant play pc gamres on a couch with friends while relaxing, and you have to upgrade every two months just to be able to play games. plus consoles are so significantly cheaper.

in fact why does pc gaming still exist?

Velvundrgnd

neither of the first 2 statements are true, the PC i built two years ago can run SC2 on high, and I can play Crysis from my couch using a 360 controller, as well as most valve games (if not all of them). PC gaming exists because people like it, like the controls, and because it is peripheral to the overall function of the device. What I mean is, why not keep PC gaming around? We will always have PC's...

Yep. I have a 30 monitor that I use to game on. I can sit back in my recliner, a good ten feet away, with my controller and game. Also, my older pc that I built 4 years ago is still a beast (I gave it to my brother) and will play most games on high. PCs gaming rocks and 90% of the complaints raised against pc gaming are ill-informed.

I still like consoles, however, for exclusives.

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#274 JuarN18
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[QUOTE="JuarN18"]

[QUOTE="SamiRDuran"]pc has more high rated exclusives than any console and even if you count ONLY the steam community it is still bigger than psn and xbox live. so?SamiRDuran

steam has alot of games than can be played in last gen hardware, do we put the PS2 in there too? why ignoring the wii? and i'm not talking about reviews either

because the wii doesnt have much of an online community? ps2 doesnt have an active community either anymore. you said that people care more about consoles which means that xbox live and psn should be bigger but they are not. PC sales globally are in billions so we cant really use that as an argument. the only thing we can compare is size of communities and games.

You can't do that either 1) you are ignoring the largest console user base right now 2) Console software is selling more

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#275 SUD123456
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For the very obvious reason that not everyone likes the same things.

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#276 pelvist
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[QUOTE="pelvist"]

[QUOTE="Sandvichman"]

You are yet to show us where anyone 'demanded' anything of the sort. Why not stop over-exadurating and grow up a bit ey?

Sandvichman

Did you even read the tc?

Yes I did, ...did you?

Topic: Why do consoles exist?

Consoles could die and no one would notice. Think about it we got cameras because they are good at taking pictures, video cameras because they are good at taking videos. On the other hand we got consoles for what? Everything a console can do a PC could do it 10 times better. Contrary to that a dedicated camera takes better pictures than a mobile phone. So what are consoles good for?

TC

Where are these so called demands? Learn the difference between a question and a demand please.

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#277 Evolution-X0
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Well it just that its less expensive and doesn't require upgrading.

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#278 bsman00
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Consoles could die and no one would notice. Think about it we got cameras because they are good at taking pictures, video cameras because they are good at taking videos. On the other hand we got consoles for what? Everything a console can do a PC could do it 10 times better. Contrary to that a dedicated camera takes better pictures than a mobile phone. So what are consoles good for?

MK-Professor

they are cheaper than pc...and user friendly

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#279 Demonjoe93
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For the very obvious reason that not everyone likes the same things.

SUD123456

Exactly.

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#280 markop2003
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The PC gamers here often argue that building your own rig is not as complicated as it seems at first, that it can be learned by anybody. And yes, they are right about this. But you want to know the truth? THAT DOESN'T MATTER.

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It's a shame that that's true. So few people seem to be willing to make their own things and find out how things work these days.
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#281 deactivated-5c9b4fe90f2f5
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why do some people think that you have to buy a $2000 rig to play pc games and keep upgrading every month?
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#282 Arach666
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why do some people think that you have to buy a $2000 rig to play pc games and keep upgrading every month?zahyr
Do you know anyone who does that?
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#283 LOXO7
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Because people are too stubborn to learn about the PC or people are to stubborn to teach about the PC or much of both.

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#284 mitu123
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why do some people think that you have to buy a $2000 rig to play pc games and keep upgrading every month?zahyr
Because they look at the prices of the parts and consider it expensive.

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#285 deactivated-57ad0e5285d73
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On the other hand we got consoles for what? Everything a console can do a PC could do it 10 times better.

MK-Professor

If that were really the case, consoles would never have taken off in the first place. Consoles offer more stability than the pc market. Console hardware is fixed, which doesn't require upgrades. People like using controllers, which I believe originated on consoles. Most people have their PCs in a work area--who wants to play games there? Simple things, really, like just pushing 'ON' and starting the game. I know it isn't difficult to start up a PC game, but the streamlined interface is just preferred amonst people.

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#286 washd123
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why do some people think that you have to buy a $2000 rig to play pc games and keep upgrading every month?zahyr

because you do if you want to play games at the same quality as the consoles.

i mean sure you can spend less but itd probably brake on you in a week or light your house on fire,

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#287 lundy86_4
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[QUOTE="zahyr"]why do some people think that you have to buy a $2000 rig to play pc games and keep upgrading every month?washd123

because you do if you want to play games at the same quality as the consoles.

i mean sure you can spend less but itd probably brake on you in a week or light your house on fire,

Hmmmm.... Not sure.

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#288 Sandvichman
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[QUOTE="Sandvichman"][QUOTE="pelvist"] Did you even read the tc? pelvist

Yes I did, ...did you?

[Quote="TC"]

Topic: Why do consoles exist?

Consoles could die and no one would notice. Think about it we got cameras because they are good at taking pictures, video cameras because they are good at taking videos. On the other hand we got consoles for what? Everything a console can do a PC could do it 10 times better. Contrary to that a dedicated camera takes better pictures than a mobile phone. So what are consoles good for?

Where are these so called demands? Learn the difference between a question and a demand please.

The fact that he is still replying and that this thread is still alive despite getting his answers says something else. Also, i was making a general statement, if you have been paying attention for the last 2 months you would understand. Don't tell me you agree with this guy.
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#289 Sandvichman
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[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

[QUOTE="washd123"]

why do some people think that you have to buy a $2000 rig to play pc games and keep upgrading every month?zahyr

because you do if you want to play games at the same quality as the consoles.

i mean sure you can spend less but itd probably brake on you in a week or light your house on fire,

Hmmmm.... Not sure.

He is mostly a hermit, so make a logical guess for his posts.
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#290 lundy86_4
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He is mostly a hermit, so make a logical guess for his posts. Sandvichman

Fair enough. I don't usually follow his/her posts, so I was unsure.

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#291 hellhund
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While PC gaming is superior, the initial costs are moderately higher and the ease of use can be much lower. With consoles, people know what to expect from the unit and the game. A 360 game will work in a 360 console without having to change anything. But it a trade-off, because they sacrifice power and flexibility. As far as complaints about where you can use a PC vs. console, that's nonsense. I'm typing on my couch as we speak.

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#292 clone01
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you are missing the point here. Pc could do all these exclusives and make them look better and play smoothly. Furthermore everybody owns a pc so if consoles didnt exist all your friends would be in a universal platform.

SamiRDuran

pc can play SMG2, madworld, punchout, UC2, GOW3, Halo 3, Halo Reach, AW, MLB 10 the show, KZ2? wow, can you show me the boxart? and sure, everyone owns a PC...all my friends have 360s. we prefer the 360s. thanks for your opinion, though.

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#293 CRUSHER88
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PC's are too much of a pain for most people. Its nice knowing that a system I bought back in 2005 can still play games coming out in 2010. While clearly the PC version will look better, gaming PCs end up being too confusing for the casual gamer.
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#294 hellhund
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[QUOTE="SamiRDuran"] you are missing the point here. Pc could do all these exclusives and make them look better and play smoothly. Furthermore everybody owns a pc so if consoles didnt exist all your friends would be in a universal platform.

clone01

pc can play SMG2, madworld, punchout, UC2, GOW3, Halo 3, Halo Reach, AW, MLB 10 the show, KZ2? wow, can you show me the boxart? and sure, everyone owns a PC...all my friends have 360s. we prefer the 360s. thanks for your opinion, though.

The PC is perfectly capable of running those games. Those games exist because the consoles exist. The consoles weren't created so that you would have a place to play those games.
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#295 clone01
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Because people are too stubborn to learn about the PC or people are to stubborn to teach about the PC or much of both.

LOXO7
or they prefer consoles?
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#297 clone01
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[QUOTE="clone01"]

[QUOTE="SamiRDuran"] you are missing the point here. Pc could do all these exclusives and make them look better and play smoothly. Furthermore everybody owns a pc so if consoles didnt exist all your friends would be in a universal platform.

hellhund

pc can play SMG2, madworld, punchout, UC2, GOW3, Halo 3, Halo Reach, AW, MLB 10 the show, KZ2? wow, can you show me the boxart? and sure, everyone owns a PC...all my friends have 360s. we prefer the 360s. thanks for your opinion, though.

The PC is perfectly capable of running those games. Those games exist because the consoles exist. The consoles weren't created so that you would have a place to play those games.

last i checked...the pc doesn't have those titles. if you look to my original post, i had stated that i prefer console exclusives to pc exclusives. i am not dealing with a "what if" situation here.
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#298 Ravensmash
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[QUOTE="clone01"]

[QUOTE="SamiRDuran"] you are missing the point here. Pc could do all these exclusives and make them look better and play smoothly. Furthermore everybody owns a pc so if consoles didnt exist all your friends would be in a universal platform.

hellhund

pc can play SMG2, madworld, punchout, UC2, GOW3, Halo 3, Halo Reach, AW, MLB 10 the show, KZ2? wow, can you show me the boxart? and sure, everyone owns a PC...all my friends have 360s. we prefer the 360s. thanks for your opinion, though.

The PC is perfectly capable of running those games. Those games exist because the consoles exist. The consoles weren't created so that you would have a place to play those games.

But those games were created specifically for the console in mind. That's his point. It doesn't matter if those games could be run on PC - fact is, they aren't.
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#299 pelvist
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[QUOTE="pelvist"]

[QUOTE="Sandvichman"]

Yes I did, ...did you?

[QUOTE="TC"]

Topic: Why do consoles exist?

Consoles could die and no one would notice. Think about it we got cameras because they are good at taking pictures, video cameras because they are good at taking videos. On the other hand we got consoles for what? Everything a console can do a PC could do it 10 times better. Contrary to that a dedicated camera takes better pictures than a mobile phone. So what are consoles good for?

Sandvichman

Where are these so called demands? Learn the difference between a question and a demand please.

The fact that he is still replying and that this thread is still alive despite getting his answers says something else. Also, i was making a general statement, if you have been paying attention for the last 2 months you would understand. Don't tell me you agree with this guy.

Hang on a sec, here read this:

Hermits in this thread are yet to answer why they are demanding console owner to justify their console purchase.

Sandvichman

Thats what you wrote. You were implying that PC owners (Hermits) in this thread are demanding answers when in fact, they are not. Now your saying its just the TC who is to blame because people like you making troll comments are keeping the thread alive?

Paying attention for 2 months hmm? Two months ago this thread wasnt here since its only 3 days old...

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#300 dommeus
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Gaming?