Why do consoles exist?

[QUOTE="Sandvichman"][QUOTE="pelvist"]

Where are these so called demands? Learn the difference between a question and a demand please.

Hang on a sec, here read this:

[Quote="Sandvichman"]

Hermits in this thread are yet to answer why they are demanding console owner to justify their console purchase.

Thats what you wrote. You were implying that PC owners (Hermits) in this thread are demanding answers when in fact, they are not. Now your saying its just the TC who is to blame because people like you making troll comments are keeping the thread alive?

Paying attention for 2 months hmm? Two months ago this thread wasnt here since its only 3 days old...

Consoles existed to bring the arcade experience to the home. As arcades waned so has the roots of console gaming which has now more or less become anti piracy dongles for pc gaming.

Consoles could die and no one would notice. Think about it we got cameras because they are good at taking pictures, video cameras because they are good at taking videos. On the other hand we got consoles for what? Everything a console can do a PC could do it 10 times better. Contrary to that a dedicated camera takes better pictures than a mobile phone. So what are consoles good for?

MK-Professor

Consoles were started as a way of bringing arcade games into the home. At the time, home computers were still not at all practical and barely anybody had one. So the cheapest and most effective way to bring videogames into the home was to introduce consoles. One could argue that is still VERY relevant today. Sure, PCs could do the same thing "10 times better" but PCs are also way more effort and work than a console and most still feel like computers are "colder" than console and less inclusive for having a group of people together.

Because of the benjamins man....its all about the benjamins.

[QUOTE="Darth-Samus"]

[QUOTE="GeneralShowzer"] That's not it sorry... http://www.pcgamingalliance.org/GeneralShowzer

Hmm. Okay how about popularity? Or quantity of software perhaps? Maybe overwhelmingly superior industry, media and developer support. I feel like any of those answers should suffice ;)

A) You didn't quote my entire last point properly so no wonder you couldn't seem to understand it.

B) I'm not sure what you think that internet article you linked for me actually proved.

C) Here is a repost of my other response that you had so conveniently overlooked:

********ALso as far as sales go, I believe in the upper tiers of all video game software sales that the Sims (and possibly WoW) is the only PC game/gaming series represented among an absolute onslaught of console games ranging over the last 20 years and several generations. Not to mention looking at PC and laptop hardware sales could never ever ever be indicitive solely of PC "gamers" and consumers buying their units for the sole purpose or the major purpose of gaming. In fact I'd wager most of the planet (by a very large margin) buys a PC with zero gaming intentions in mind. So I don't know how the sales defense could really properly be made.

EDIT: Please keep in mind that while I am primarily a console gamer, that I am not agaist PC gaming and bear no grudge. I will play Old Republic and Diablo III to death. Just my objective opinion when weighing the facts. The facts just happen to weigh in favor of consoles.*****

D) The picture of Inception in your sig is the best thing you have going for yourself buddy :P

I just prefer gaming on consoles, not much of a PC gamer.

This thread is awesome.:lol:

Why does PC gaming exist?

This thread is awesome.:lol:

Why does PC gaming exist?

mitu123

I love it when people try and make an argument with that PCGA article citing the 'vastness' of PC gaming. It doesn't lend any credulity to the argument that PC gaming is larger in fan base. Whats more is that it doesn't quantify what a PC gamer is. Is a PC gamer someone who logs onto Facebook to play flash games; Is a PC gamer someone who has a discrete GPU rather than an integrated one? In the case of the former, the PS3 has to be counted as a gaming PC since they are able to access Facebook and those same flash games. We all know the PS3 is a console so the argument is a slippery slope argument at best. Why stop there though? What if we tally up all the consoles from every generation and we get well over 500 million units. Theres obviously some convergence but can you prove that those console gamers aren't playing their systems anymore? I challenge you to do so. With that said, we cannot conclude that there are more PC gamers than console gamers when we can't quantify what makes a PC gamer and we cannot confirm who is still playing their past consoles. Its unfalsifiable.Vadamee

sales dont lie

maybe when the console industry makes as much as the pc industry you might have reasonable doubt, but considering the pc industry not only is growing while the console market is losing profit, its consistantly brought in more revenue than all the consoles and handhelds combined.

and the pcga article about gaming pcs sold only takes into account laptops and desktops with discrete gpus installed.

[QUOTE="LegatoSkyheart"]

The Real Question is Why don't Arcades exist anymore?

siLVURcross

Also there's a pretty big arcade place near where I live, I'm not sure how updated it is but last I heard, it had games like SFIV and stuff.

PC's are much more expensive, and complicated than consoles. All you have to do with a console to play games is hook it up to a tv, power source, then put in the disk and play. With computers, you have to make sure you have the right components. I.E video card and sound card and such. deimos113

With a gaming laptop, the components are fixed. You don't have to connect to a TV i.e. it comes with built-in display. My laptop already comes with Creative Labs X-Fi MB audio solution.

Because not everyone wants to waste money on PC gaming.Sp4rtan_3

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[QUOTE="04dcarraher"] This shows what you know... enough with the console denial. with a 8800GT you can run Crysis on high at 1440x900, Metro 2033 on high at 1440x900, and STALKER maxed out at 1680x1050. Even with Metro 2033 also a multiplat game the console versions were running on low textures (below Pc's low settings) at 1280x720. Metro 2033 on consoles were using 1mb texture files Pc low settings uses 2mb normal uses 4, and high uses 6mb textures.04dcarraher

And how much does it cost you? Is it Cheaper than Consoles?

If all your family have their own laptop then Pc gaming is a very limited option and money could have spent in a better way. But most families get a main Pc for everyone to use.

On NV side, Geforce 8800 GT ~= Geforce 9800GT ~= Geforce GT250 ~= Geforce GT260M.

On ATI side, Radeon HD 2900(320 SPs) ~= Radeon HD 38X0 (320 SPs) ~= Radeon HD 46X0 (320 SPs) ~= Mobility Radeon HD 5165**(320 SPs) ~= Radeon HD Mobility 560V** (320 SPs). **ATI was pressured by OEMs to rename thier GPUs.

The claims for "6 month hardware upgrade" is BS.

Because the average IQ of an american isnt that high and PC takes you having to know something, in other countries PC is much bigger. Its a fact, americans want it simple, right there and in there lap without having to do any work. Im american so dont flame me ;p

edinsftw

SO you are saying that Americans play consoles because we are lazy? Thats funny...if you ask most people "older group" sitting around on a pc or console is for a bunch of lazy worthless turds..

I really dont know what to say to you. That comment is actually really ignorant. I can build and work on pcs. Is it easy? Not always. And games dont just run themselves you know. After building the PC "which does take brains regardless of what you say"....THEN you have to install all the drivers. AND make sure you "EXPLORE" the disc because all the drivers normally dont auto install. Then you have to install your games which usually has its share of problems. Making sure you rig can even play a game can be troublesome to most people. Its not a "LAZY" issue at all..Its more of an issue of "WHY?"..and an issue of "MOST people grew up playing consoles"

PCs were not mainstreem popular for gaming EVER. They have always been targeted to a certain group. Regardless if they are more powerful, or "better to some" or have mods,free internet play,..it simply does not matter as MOST people will never get that far.

So dont think consoles are for the lazy...that is rediculous to say the least.

[QUOTE="edinsftw"]

Because the average IQ of an american isnt that high and PC takes you having to know something, in other countries PC is much bigger. Its a fact, americans want it simple, right there and in there lap without having to do any work. Im american so dont flame me ;p

VanDammFan

SO you are saying that Americans play consoles because we are lazy? Thats funny...if you ask most people "older group" sitting around on a pc or console is for a bunch of lazy worthless turds..

I really dont know what to say to you. That comment is actually really ignorant. I can build and work on pcs. Is it easy? Not always. And games dont just run themselves you know. After building the PC "which does take brains regardless of what you say"....THEN you have to install all the drivers. AND make sure you "EXPLORE" the disc because all the drivers normally dont auto install. Then you have to install your games which usually has its share of problems. Making sure you rig can even play a game can be troublesome to most people. Its not a "LAZY" issue at all..Its more of an issue of "WHY?"..and an issue of "MOST people grew up playing consoles"

PCs were not mainstreem popular for gaming EVER. They have always been targeted to a certain group. Regardless if they are more powerful, or "better to some" or have mods,free internet play,..it simply does not matter as MOST people will never get that far.

So dont think consoles are for the lazy...that is rediculous to say the least.

You made me lol. PC has the most gamers of any platform. WoW by itself has more than any consle game ever made(its boring so i really dont get it). Also idk what you mean by explore the disk, im thinking you mean go to device manager, or is it a magical disk from some company like dell where it has all the drivers on it?? Also its really not that hard to install drivers...i used to make computers daily/fix and they only take me an hour and a half to assemble install os and drivers. I am part of that lazy generation, i know what im talking about. Back to my main point, if you just learn a little about computers you wont have problems

Because the average IQ of an american isnt that high and PC takes you having to know something, in other countries PC is much bigger. Its a fact, americans want it simple, right there and in there lap without having to do any work. Im american so dont flame me ;p

edinsftw

[QUOTE="edinsftw"]

Because the average IQ of an american isnt that high and PC takes you having to know something, in other countries PC is much bigger. Its a fact, americans want it simple, right there and in there lap without having to do any work. Im american so dont flame me ;p

Sandvichman

Pics or it didn't happen :P

[QUOTE="Sandvichman"][QUOTE="edinsftw"]

Because the average IQ of an american isnt that high and PC takes you having to know something, in other countries PC is much bigger. Its a fact, americans want it simple, right there and in there lap without having to do any work. Im american so dont flame me ;p

felipebo

Pics or it didn't happen :P

Also ur not american like i was saying -.-

[QUOTE="felipebo"]

[QUOTE="Sandvichman"] I have an IQ of 132, live in Norway. understand pc gaming, yet don't enjoy it. edinsftw

Pics or it didn't happen :P

Also ur not american like i was saying -.-

[QUOTE="VanDammFan"]

[QUOTE="edinsftw"]

Because the average IQ of an american isnt that high and PC takes you having to know something, in other countries PC is much bigger. Its a fact, americans want it simple, right there and in there lap without having to do any work. Im american so dont flame me ;p

edinsftw

SO you are saying that Americans play consoles because we are lazy? Thats funny...if you ask most people "older group" sitting around on a pc or console is for a bunch of lazy worthless turds..

I really dont know what to say to you. That comment is actually really ignorant. I can build and work on pcs. Is it easy? Not always. And games dont just run themselves you know. After building the PC "which does take brains regardless of what you say"....THEN you have to install all the drivers. AND make sure you "EXPLORE" the disc because all the drivers normally dont auto install. Then you have to install your games which usually has its share of problems. Making sure you rig can even play a game can be troublesome to most people. Its not a "LAZY" issue at all..Its more of an issue of "WHY?"..and an issue of "MOST people grew up playing consoles"

PCs were not mainstreem popular for gaming EVER. They have always been targeted to a certain group. Regardless if they are more powerful, or "better to some" or have mods,free internet play,..it simply does not matter as MOST people will never get that far.

So dont think consoles are for the lazy...that is rediculous to say the least.

You made me lol. PC has the most gamers of any platform. WoW by itself has more than any consle game ever made(its boring so i really dont get it). Also idk what you mean by explore the disk, im thinking you mean go to device manager, or is it a magical disk from some company like dell where it has all the drivers on it?? Also its really not that hard to install drivers...i used to make computers daily/fix and they only take me an hour and a half to assemble install os and drivers. I am part of that lazy generation, i know what im talking about. Back to my main point, if you just learn a little about computers you wont have problems

I know alot about computers and even I have had problems building comps.... and have had lots of software issues over the years. You are clearly downplaying one of the major drawbacks of PC gaming.

lets say you build your new PC, hit the power button for the first time... it powers up, but doesnt post, and doesnt give any beep codes. How do you figure out which piece of hardware is faulty? Because outside of swapping in and out parts, which requires you to own an entire set of spare working components... there is no good way to figure that out.

Looking at the thread title made me think "Oh boy... this can't be serious".

Now I regret checking it out.

the only thing consoles can do that the pc cant, is to offer a easy more casual friendly way to play games.

And thats probably why they where created, to offer something to the people at home that dont know much about the tech itself.

Before you play a game on the pc, you have to install it, you have to know something about the tech, and how much your computer can handle.

This knowledge isnt needed on consoles.

All other reasons people name, like relaxing on the sofa, or better controls for some genres, can easily be done on the pc. So this is the only true advantage consoles have.

lol *laughs* um people would notice...

and they exist because their is a market for them.

wow old thread digged up again :P

To make money, duh.

the only thing consoles can do that the pc cant, is to offer a easy more casual friendly way to play games.

And thats probably why they where created, to offer something to the people at home that dont know much about the tech itself.

Before you play a game on the pc, you have to install it, you have to know something about the tech, and how much your computer can handle.

This knowledge isnt needed on consoles.

All other reasons people name, like relaxing on the sofa, or better controls for some genres, can easily be done on the pc. So this is the only true advantage consoles have.

his quoteMaddie_Larkin

the only thing consoles can do that the pc cant, is to offer a easy more casual friendly way to play games.

And thats probably why they where created, to offer something to the people at home that dont know much about the tech itself.

Before you play a game on the pc, you have to install it, you have to know something about the tech, and how much your computer can handle.

This knowledge isnt needed on consoles.

All other reasons people name, like relaxing on the sofa, or better controls for some genres, can easily be done on the pc. So this is the only true advantage consoles have.

Half-Way

Ease of purchase, ease of use, price.