It has worse tech than its competition.
Yet it is still able to achieve 1st in sales.
And pump out loads of AAE-AAAE games.
So what if it has casual garbage.
Considering its standing point. It is an achievement that it is what it is today.
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Its not the laughing stock of the gaming industry. Its the laughing stock of the 18-35 year old bro gamer demographic . . . wait a minute, that is essentially who runs the industry. Well that's a problem. Eh, to be honest, 18-35 year old males have the most shallow predictable gaming habits ever. The Wii is the laughing stock of the industry because it doesn't cater to this demographic, not because there is anything legitimately wrong with the system.
It has worse tech than its competition.
Yet it is still able to achieve 1st in sales.
And pump out loads of AAE-AAAE games.
So what if it has casual garbage.
Considering its standing point. It is an achievement that it is what it is today.
TheDogout
I simply ignore what others on System Wars has to say because its always putting down the Wii while it has great games.
Yeah. Mw2 and halo are usually around that area.Its not the laughing stock of the gaming industry. Its the laughing stock of the 18-35 year old bro gamer demographic . . . wait a minute, that is essentially who runs the industry. Well that's a problem. Eh, to be honest, 18-35 year old males have the most shallow predictable gaming habits ever. The Wii is the laughing stock of the industry because it doesn't cater to this demographic, not because there is anything legitimately wrong with the system.
ActicEdge
I thought SMG came out in 2008. Nevermind. Well.. All consoles have slumps.Constantly pumping out AAE-AAAE games you say? I agree on the AAE side but you do realize that the Wii has not had a AAAE here on GS in 2 years. that is pretty laughable if I say so myself
BPoole96
[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]Yeah. Mw2 and halo are usually around that area.Its not the laughing stock of the gaming industry. Its the laughing stock of the 18-35 year old bro gamer demographic . . . wait a minute, that is essentially who runs the industry. Well that's a problem. Eh, to be honest, 18-35 year old males have the most shallow predictable gaming habits ever. The Wii is the laughing stock of the industry because it doesn't cater to this demographic, not because there is anything legitimately wrong with the system.
TheDogout
There is nothing wrong with those games either, they are good products. They just don't stimulate much in people who aren't 18-35 year old bro gamers. This forum is 18 - 35 year old bro gamers. Is my point starting to become clear? ITs not the system, its who you talk to.
Constantly pumping out AAE-AAAE games you say? I agree on the AAE side but you do realize that the Wii has not had a AAAE here on GS in 2 years. that is pretty laughable if I say so myself
BPoole96
The lack of AAAE content is certainly disheartening (well not to me its just letters but anyway) but there have been experiences that could have easily been seen as AAA. Because this is SW I have to sit back and say haha pathetic but in reality I still think NSMBWii was AAA and I've heard tons of good about LKS. I also enjoy TatvsCap just as much as AAA games (don't own it though). The letters matter here but . . . they don't really matter.
without mentioning graphics, most people (even the media like G4 and news websites like yahoo) brand it a "kiddie console". thats why despite the sales of the console, the only high rated games that sell well and are for the "core" audience on it are mario, zelda, and metroid. coincidently some also dont feel like playing those either since they are used every gen and have existed since the nes. (mario is great and all, i still like him a bit, but 20 years of the same old "save the princess from bowser" just seems like milking to some people)It has worse tech than its competition.
Yet it is still able to achieve 1st in sales.
And pump out loads of AAE-AAAE games.
So what if it has casual garbage.
Considering its standing point. It is an achievement that it is what it is today.
TheDogout
sure wii play and wii fit sell, but those arent gamers buying those.
[QUOTE="TheDogout"]most people (even the media like G4 and news websites like yahoo) brand it a "kiddie console". thats why despite the sales of the console, the only high rated games that sell well and are for the "core" audience on it are mario, zelda, and metroid. coincidently some also dont feel like playing those either since they are used every gen and have existed since the nes. (mario is great and all, i still like him a bit, but 20 years of the same old "save the princess from bowser" just seems like milking to some people) sure wii play and wii fit sell, but those arent gamers buying those.It has worse tech than its competition.
Yet it is still able to achieve 1st in sales.
And pump out loads of AAE-AAAE games.
So what if it has casual garbage.
Considering its standing point. It is an achievement that it is what it is today.
antifanboyftw
I'm actually curious if people understand why the story and the same general format still exists. Its actually a rather genius concept in theory. I can say though that Mario games vary themselves from each other quite well. They aren't selling you the same game over and over.
Its not the laughing stock of the gaming industry. Its the laughing stock of the 18-35 year old bro gamer demographic . . . wait a minute, that is essentially who runs the industry. Well that's a problem. Eh, to be honest, 18-35 year old males have the most shallow predictable gaming habits ever. The Wii is the laughing stock of the industry because it doesn't cater to this demographic, not because there is anything legitimately wrong with the system.
ActicEdge
BROFORCE BRO!
that was amazing. needs more Call of Duty mentioning, and it will be the perfect representation for most xbox and ps3 fans.
hehehe...broforce.
Its not the laughing stock of the gaming industry. Its the laughing stock of the 18-35 year old bro gamer demographic . . . wait a minute, that is essentially who runs the industry. Well that's a problem. Eh, to be honest, 18-35 year old males have the most shallow predictable gaming habits ever. The Wii is the laughing stock of the industry because it doesn't cater to this demographic, not because there is anything legitimately wrong with the system.
ActicEdge
Having a poor online infrastructure, very little quality 3rd party support, behind graphically, lacking in genres, and periods of droughts, etc.. all couldn't be a reason on why the Wii is looked down upon to a degree, everyone is just a "bro gamer" and none of these things matter when looking at the system objectively.
I see... so I'm 31, having been gaming since the COleco Vision/Atari 2600 days... Enjoy basically every genre except for SPorts, X-treme Sports (save for SSX Tricky) and Simulators.... but because I love Halo, I'm a "BRO" Gamer?
what's the point? To play games on....? Maybe? To have fun? What?The wii is a solid system. I'll never get one though. Consoles should have graphical updating imo. If they don't whats the point?
nmaharg
[QUOTE="ActicEdge"]
Its not the laughing stock of the gaming industry. Its the laughing stock of the 18-35 year old bro gamer demographic . . . wait a minute, that is essentially who runs the industry. Well that's a problem. Eh, to be honest, 18-35 year old males have the most shallow predictable gaming habits ever. The Wii is the laughing stock of the industry because it doesn't cater to this demographic, not because there is anything legitimately wrong with the system.
opex07
Having a poor online infrastructure, very little quality 3rd party support, behind graphically, lacking in genres, and periods of droughts, etc.. all couldn't be a reason on why the Wii is looked down upon to a degree, everyone is just a "bro gamer" and none of these things matter when looking at the system objectively.
everything here is legitimate except "lacking in genres." That's a joke. The Wii has so many genres, it's ridiculous.[QUOTE="BPoole96"]I thought SMG came out in 2008. Nevermind. Well.. All consoles have slumps.Constantly pumping out AAE-AAAE games you say? I agree on the AAE side but you do realize that the Wii has not had a AAAE here on GS in 2 years. that is pretty laughable if I say so myself
TheDogout
2 years is more than a slump
I fail to see these loads of AAE and AAAE games...if anything, PS3 is currently pumping them all out.
Wii had the potential to be great. It's fun but at the end of the day I'm playing Civ4 on my PC or playing Heavy Rain on my PS3, hopefully everyone is getting their crap together.
Its not the laughing stock of the gaming industry. Its the laughing stock of the 18-35 year old bro gamer demographic . . . wait a minute, that is essentially who runs the industry. Well that's a problem. Eh, to be honest, 18-35 year old males have the most shallow predictable gaming habits ever. The Wii is the laughing stock of the industry because it doesn't cater to this demographic, not because there is anything legitimately wrong with the system.
ActicEdge
It's the Hardcore Fanboys who are the laughing stock who keep complaining that they want The Wii to be like their console or PCs.
Nintendo hasn't changed much in 20 years with their tried and true franchises and mostly family appeal.
Nintendo is still a stable profitable company,
makes well known high quality titles generally
Mostly been family friendly
Leads the console market
That's nothing to laugh at.
[QUOTE="nmaharg"]what's the point? To play games on....? Maybe? To have fun? What? I can do that on a old school nes or sega.The wii is a solid system. I'll never get one though. Consoles should have graphical updating imo. If they don't whats the point?
kansasdude2009
while i fall into the 18 to 35 year male gamer demographics.. what you wrote reflect my view on things exactly.... its embarassing how people react when a game comes out that is not aimed at them (nintendogs anyone..?)Its not the laughing stock of the gaming industry. Its the laughing stock of the 18-35 year old bro gamer demographic . . . wait a minute, that is essentially who runs the industry. Well that's a problem. Eh, to be honest, 18-35 year old males have the most shallow predictable gaming habits ever. The Wii is the laughing stock of the industry because it doesn't cater to this demographic, not because there is anything legitimately wrong with the system.
ActicEdge
no womans should not play games unless they like what we like
no old people should not play games unless they like what we like
no kids should not play games unless they like what we like
grow up...is what i want to say to such people..
nintendo is virtually the only company that focuses on the demographic above.. the rest of the industry pretty much makes games for your..
[QUOTE="lusitanogamer"]I'm sure the Wii is a great system for those that enjoy it, but it's simply not for me. My game library is made up mostly of mature rated games and the Wii lacks in that department.PicesSo what? Image. If your peers see you playing games outside their social norm, you will be ridiculed and outcast.
[QUOTE="Pices"][QUOTE="lusitanogamer"]I'm sure the Wii is a great system for those that enjoy it, but it's simply not for me. My game library is made up mostly of mature rated games and the Wii lacks in that department.Willy105So what? Image. If your peers see you playing games outside their social norm, you will be ridiculed and outcast.
Now its all clear to me :shock:
[QUOTE="lusitanogamer"]I'm sure the Wii is a great system for those that enjoy it, but it's simply not for me. My game library is made up mostly of mature rated games and the Wii lacks in that department.PicesSo what? I don't expect you to care about my gaming tastes. Just gave my input to give an example on why the Wii might not appeal to some people.
[QUOTE="Pices"][QUOTE="lusitanogamer"]I'm sure the Wii is a great system for those that enjoy it, but it's simply not for me. My game library is made up mostly of mature rated games and the Wii lacks in that department.Willy105So what? Image. If your peers see you playing games outside their social norm, you will be ridiculed and outcast. Not really. I play what i like and i don't let what others think prevent me from doing anything i wanna do. I simply prefer mature games, how hard is that to understand? Everyone is entitled to have their own taste.
The Wii has been laughed at and poked fun at by most hardcore gamers and quite a few developers, but it does have a lot of great first party titles and really good party and exercise games.
It's just not geared towards the hardcore crowd, it's better suited for the casual gamer, and that's fine, but it will always suffer from not receiving the massive multiplatform hits such as RE-5, Call of Duty MW-2, Bayonetta, Oblivion, Fallout 3, Ninja Gaiden series, and the list goes on.
So is it for the hardcore gamer ? NO, but it does have a place in the market for the casual player.
As far as it's sales go, well between Nintendo having the so called " shortage " the first year of Wii's release, it created a curious mystique about the new motion control system, and peoples frantic curiosity got the better of them, and between that and it being the lowest costing system, with the largest amount of E rated titles, it quickly became the most kid friendly system.
So all those combos put it in the number one selling spot, but it will never be a system taken seriously by the hardcore market.
It has worse tech than its competition.
Yet it is still able to achieve 1st in sales.
And pump out loads of AAE-AAAE games.
So what if it has casual garbage.
Considering its standing point. It is an achievement that it is what it is today.
It pumps out AAAEs........really now, that is news to me.The Wii has been laughed at and poked fun at by most hardcore gamers and quite a few developers, but it does have a lot of great first party titles and really good party and exercise games.
It's just not geared towards the hardcore crowd, it's better suited for the casual gamer, and that's fine, but it will always suffer from not receiving the massive multiplatform hits such as RE-5, Call of Duty MW-2, Bayonetta, Oblivion, Fallout 3, Ninja Gaiden series, and the list goes on.
So is it for the hardcore gamer ? NO, but it does have a place in the market for the casual player.
As far as it's sales go, well between Nintendo having the so called " shortage " the first year of Wii's release, it created a curious mystique about the new motion control system, and peoples frantic curiosity got the better of them, and between that and it being the lowest costing system, with the largest amount of E rated titles, it quickly became the most kid friendly system.
So all those combos put it in the number one selling spot, but it will never be a system taken seriously by the hardcore market.
Wrong, it is for both a hardcore and casual gamer. Hence, its for "everyone"I dont consider it a laughingstock? I doubt most people does.
It is hard for 3rd party to catch a break on it, other then that I see very little wrong with it.
It has put out some of the better games this gen, and it stays true to its roots, why bash it for that?
Alot of people do not really like the violent gun toting games, and the Wii is perfect for that crowd... If the wii was considered a laughing stock I would even find it hard to imagine why both Sony and MS trys to copy what it has done to some extent.
The hate you find on these boards stems from the console defence forces of the other two consoles, you know... the vocal ones... The Wii pretty much proved them wrong, and since they were not in the demographic Wii targeted, they simply chose to ignore it, partly because it whooped thier beloved consoles, and partly because it had no appeal to them.
I see the Wii as an interresting experiment that payied off quite well, and from where I stand it does not do better or worse then the other two consoles this gen on the game front.
The Wii has been laughed at and poked fun at by most hardcore gamers and quite a few developers, but it does have a lot of great first party titles and really good party and exercise games.
It's just not geared towards the hardcore crowd, it's better suited for the casual gamer, and that's fine, but it will always suffer from not receiving the massive multiplatform hits such as RE-5, Call of Duty MW-2, Bayonetta, Oblivion, Fallout 3, Ninja Gaiden series, and the list goes on.
So is it for the hardcore gamer ? NO, but it does have a place in the market for the casual player.
As far as it's sales go, well between Nintendo having the so called " shortage " the first year of Wii's release, it created a curious mystique about the new motion control system, and peoples frantic curiosity got the better of them, and between that and it being the lowest costing system, with the largest amount of E rated titles, it quickly became the most kid friendly system.
So all those combos put it in the number one selling spot, but it will never be a system taken seriously by the hardcore market.
Wrong, it is for both a hardcore and casual gamer. Hence, its for "everyone" Well, i don't know how old you are, or how old your friends are, but i've been gaming for 30 years and so have alot of my friends and family and none of the hardcore gamers i know own a Wii or ever intend to get one, it's not even a consideration, unless it's for one of our kids, otherwise we have no use for it. Are you sure your not defending it because your a young guy who's mom bought him a Wii for christmas or your birthday and it's the only system you have and thats why your defending it, and if so that's ok, but it's not for the hardcore gamers, and alot more people here will agree with me than you.[QUOTE="nmaharg"]Little do you know that the Wii did have a graphical updateThe wii is a solid system. I'll never get one though. Consoles should have graphical updating imo. If they don't whats the point?
Pices
Please, the Wii is a gamecube with an add-on slapped on. They somehow got millions to pay for it.
[QUOTE="Pices"][QUOTE="RPG-explorer"]Wrong, it is for both a hardcore and casual gamer. Hence, its for "everyone" Well, i don't know how old you are, or how old your friends are, but i've been gaming for 30 years and so have alot of my friends and family and none of the hardcore gamers i know own a Wii or ever intend to get one, it's not even a consideration, unless it's for one of our kids, otherwise we have no use for it. Are you sure your not defending it because your a young guy who's mom bought him a Wii for christmas or your birthday and it's the only system you have and thats why your defending it, and if so that's ok, but it's not for the hardcore gamers, and alot more people here will agree with me than you.The Wii has been laughed at and poked fun at by most hardcore gamers and quite a few developers, but it does have a lot of great first party titles and really good party and exercise games.
It's just not geared towards the hardcore crowd, it's better suited for the casual gamer, and that's fine, but it will always suffer from not receiving the massive multiplatform hits such as RE-5, Call of Duty MW-2, Bayonetta, Oblivion, Fallout 3, Ninja Gaiden series, and the list goes on.
So is it for the hardcore gamer ? NO, but it does have a place in the market for the casual player.
As far as it's sales go, well between Nintendo having the so called " shortage " the first year of Wii's release, it created a curious mystique about the new motion control system, and peoples frantic curiosity got the better of them, and between that and it being the lowest costing system, with the largest amount of E rated titles, it quickly became the most kid friendly system.
So all those combos put it in the number one selling spot, but it will never be a system taken seriously by the hardcore market.
RPG-explorer
I think it's very ignorant of you to be making assumptions about those people who are defending a Wii. Your comments are based in the "Teh Wii is kiddeh" argument, which has gotten very stale of the years and reeks of immaturity. I game a pretty good amount of time, and much of it is spent on the Wii. I'm 31, I've been gaming for about 25 years and the Wii provides a lot of my gaming needs. The only reason why I chose to get another console is that I know I was missing out on exclusives that I wouldn't have gotten on the Wii. That statement could be made about any system, not just the Wii.
If a lot more people agree with you than with a Wii-supporter is that many of the staunch Wii defenders left a long time ago. The constant ridicule and ignorance by the younger part of the 13-35 year old male demographic that vehemently defends the 360 and PS3 ran them out. It's pretty hard to have a rational conversation with someone who isn't willing to see something from your point of view.
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