Why isn't Crysis on consoles yet?

Don't the best PC titles, usually get ported to consoles (no matter the difference in hardware) i'm sure the current gen console can run crysis on low or medium with some sacrifices, etc. FarCry 2 for example.

srsly, look at killzone 2 and tell me we can't have a great looking crysis?

Really want to see how it would turn out.

Don't the best PC titles, usually get ported to consoles (no matter the difference in hardware) i'm sure the current gen console can run crysis on low or medium with some sacrifices, etc. FarCry 2 for example.

srsly, look at killzone 2 and tell me we can't have a great looking crysis?

Really want to see how it would turn out.

Eyezonmii

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And Killzone 2 shows what ?!

Tiny enviroments, empty levels, and half a dosen enemies on screen only.

That's not exactly Crysis.

Because consoles can't handle crysis.

You people need to understand that Crysis has huge open worlds. It's not some linear shooter like Gears/Killzone 2.

Crysis's design makes it impossible to run on consoles, not the visuals.aliblabla2007

Finally, someone who understands that Crysis isn't only about "teh pretty graphics"

didn't i just say imply a DOWNGRADED VERSION? DERR, it can't run its current form, but it can if things can be stripped down as many PC to console games have done...why is crysis an exception? Eyezonmii

Crysis on consoles would be the equivalent of Dead rising on Wii.

didn't i just say imply a DOWNGRADED VERSION? DERR, it can't run its current form, but it can if things can be stripped down as many PC to console games have done...why is crysis an exception? Eyezonmii

That's not what the "design" means. Sure, cut the visuals down to medium and you'd get visuals that your HD consoles could run at a steady 20-30 FPS - but Crysis maps are massive - they use up more RAM per map (about 600 megs) than a HD console's RAM and VRAM combined (256 each for PS3, unified 512 for Xbox 360). Cut down the map size to the point where a console can run it, and it's not Crysis anymore.

Because consoles can't handle crysis.

You people need to understand that Crysis has huge open worlds. It's not some linear shooter like Gears/Killzone 2.

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Because consoles can't handle crysis.

You people need to understand that Crysis has huge open worlds. It's not some linear shooter like Gears/Killzone 2.

PAL360

Those games were linear shooters. Crysis has vast open terrain with many enemy's, vehicles, effects to keep track of. It needs more RAM and a more powerful graphics card in order to port it's current game design to console. If they are going to port it to consoles, they'll have to redesign the game, and make the levels smaller.

Because consoles can't handle crysis.

You people need to understand that Crysis has huge open worlds. It's not some linear shooter like Gears/Killzone 2.

didn't i just say imply a DOWNGRADED VERSION? DERR, it can't run its current form, but it can if things can be stripped down as many PC to console games have done...why is crysis an exception? Eyezonmii

[QUOTE="Eyezonmii"]didn't i just say imply a DOWNGRADED VERSION? DERR, it can't run its current form, but it can if things can be stripped down as many PC to console games have done...why is crysis an exception? aliblabla2007

That's not what the "design" means. Sure, cut the visuals down to medium and you'd get visuals that your HD consoles could run at a steady 20-30 FPS - but Crysis maps are massive - they use up more RAM per map (about 600 megs) than a HD console's RAM and VRAM combined (256 each for PS3, unified 512 for Xbox 360). Cut down the map size to the point where a console can run it, and it's not Crysis anymore.

Because consoles can't handle crysis.

You people need to understand that Crysis has huge open worlds. It's not some linear shooter like Gears/Killzone 2.

That you think Killzone2 is evidence Crysis could run on consoles just shows much must some console users underestimate just what the technology in Crysis is doing.

And why we have to put up with countless stupid threads comprising them.

if it would end up DOWNGRADING the game in ANY way, it would be such a waste.joopyme

[QUOTE="Eyezonmii"]didn't i just say imply a DOWNGRADED VERSION? DERR, it can't run its current form, but it can if things can be stripped down as many PC to console games have done...why is crysis an exception? R4gn4r0k

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[QUOTE="Eyezonmii"]didn't i just say imply a DOWNGRADED VERSION? DERR, it can't run its current form, but it can if things can be stripped down as many PC to console games have done...why is crysis an exception? Eyezonmii

That's not what the "design" means. Sure, cut the visuals down to medium and you'd get visuals that your HD consoles could run at a steady 20-30 FPS - but Crysis maps are massive - they use up more RAM per map (about 600 megs) than a HD console's RAM and VRAM combined (256 each for PS3, unified 512 for Xbox 360). Cut down the map size to the point where a console can run it, and it's not Crysis anymore.

Cut the map size down, and then you get Crysis: Instincts, not pure Crysis. If Crysis were a linear, Call-of-Duty esque type small-level FPS game, then you could sacrifice visuals to port it over, but Crysis isn't Call of Duty.

[QUOTE="Eyezonmii"][QUOTE="aliblabla2007"]

That's not what the "design" means. Sure, cut the visuals down to medium and you'd get visuals that your HD consoles could run at a steady 20-30 FPS - but Crysis maps are massive - they use up more RAM per map (about 600 megs) than a HD console's RAM and VRAM combined (256 each for PS3, unified 512 for Xbox 360). Cut down the map size to the point where a console can run it, and it's not Crysis anymore.

aliblabla2007

Cut the map size down, and then you get Crysis: Instincts, not pure Crysis. If Crysis were a linear, Call-of-Duty esque type small-level FPS game, then you could sacrifice visuals to port it over, but Crysis isn't Call of Duty.

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That you think Killzone2 is evidence Crysis could run on consoles just shows much must some console users underestimate just what the technology in Crysis is doing.

And why we have to put up with countless stupid threads comprising them.

Eyezonmii

If you wanted a downgraded Crysis on consoles, you'll have to play a game that doesn't resemble Crysis at all. So what's the point?

[QUOTE="aliblabla2007"][QUOTE="Eyezonmii"] so cut the size down, i recall Farcry 2 on consoles having MASSIVE levels, while holding up everything it great and top form (graphics, etc)Eyezonmii

Cut the map size down, and then you get Crysis: Instincts, not pure Crysis. If Crysis were a linear, Call-of-Duty esque type small-level FPS game, then you could sacrifice visuals to port it over, but Crysis isn't Call of Duty.

It's possible, but it wouldn't be the the same Crysis people are playing on PC. It wouldn't even resemble it.

[QUOTE="Eyezonmii"][QUOTE="AnnoyedDragon"]

That you think Killzone2 is evidence Crysis could run on consoles just shows much must some console users underestimate just what the technology in Crysis is doing.

And why we have to put up with countless stupid threads comprising them.

steve17989

If you wanted a downgraded Crysis on consoles, you'll have to play a game that doesn't resemble Crysis at all. So what's the point?

and it looks like you have READING PROBLEMS....i'm talking about a DOWNGRADED VERSION....YEEEESHH! Its been done before with many TOP PC games. Eyezonmii

Perhaps you should go back and read it has 'nothing' to do with scalable aspects of Crysis, porting Crysis isn't like taking corridor shooters and scaling the visuals a bit.

Crysis is like Far Cry 1 in the way it handles maps, yet when Far Cry 1 was moved to consoles it was turned into Instincts and had all the maps redesigned into a different game. Doesn't that tell you anything?

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[QUOTE="Eyezonmii"]didn't i just say imply a DOWNGRADED VERSION? DERR, it can't run its current form, but it can if things can be stripped down as many PC to console games have done...why is crysis an exception? Eyezonmii

That's not what the "design" means. Sure, cut the visuals down to medium and you'd get visuals that your HD consoles could run at a steady 20-30 FPS - but Crysis maps are massive - they use up more RAM per map (about 600 megs) than a HD console's RAM and VRAM combined (256 each for PS3, unified 512 for Xbox 360). Cut down the map size to the point where a console can run it, and it's not Crysis anymore.

Errr uhh..

PC:

And the consoles...

[QUOTE="Eyezonmii"][QUOTE="aliblabla2007"]

Cut the map size down, and then you get Crysis: Instincts, not pure Crysis. If Crysis were a linear, Call-of-Duty esque type small-level FPS game, then you could sacrifice visuals to port it over, but Crysis isn't Call of Duty.

steve17989

It's possible, but it wouldn't the the same Crysis people are playing on PC. It wouldn't even resemble it.

so cut the size down, i recall Farcry 2 on consoles having MASSIVE levels, while holding up everything it great and top form (graphics, etc)Eyezonmii

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Far Cry 2 has a relatively empty and repetitive enviroment and respaning enemies and inferior physics.

HardOCP did a test with Crysis, Warhead, Clear Sky and FC2 on DX10 setting and the conclusion was that Far Cry 2 does a lot lot less on screen compared to the others.

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Summary

The very first thing you will notice when looking at these results is the high settings in this game that are actually playable. FarCry 2 is certainly no Crysis. (Pun Intended.)

We were easily able to play in DirectX 10 mode on all single PCB video cards here at the absolute highest in-game settings possible. Yes, all the drop-down boxes shown above are at their highest quality settings! This is very exciting and surely is a breath of fresh air from the horrid DX10 performance we've seen in Crysis and Crysis: Warhead and even Stalker: Clear Sky.

FarCry 2, on first impression, is much more "simple" in graphics than Crysis. A good way of thinking about it is that the game is less "busy" than Crysis. There is less of a graphics orgy going on.

HARDOCP

[QUOTE="Eyezonmii"][QUOTE="aliblabla2007"]

That's not what the "design" means. Sure, cut the visuals down to medium and you'd get visuals that your HD consoles could run at a steady 20-30 FPS - but Crysis maps are massive - they use up more RAM per map (about 600 megs) than a HD console's RAM and VRAM combined (256 each for PS3, unified 512 for Xbox 360). Cut down the map size to the point where a console can run it, and it's not Crysis anymore.

DragonfireXZ95

Errr uhh..

PC:

And the consoles...

[QUOTE="aliblabla2007"][QUOTE="Eyezonmii"] so cut the size down, i recall Farcry 2 on consoles having MASSIVE levels, while holding up everything it great and top form (graphics, etc)Eyezonmii

Cut the map size down, and then you get Crysis: Instincts, not pure Crysis. If Crysis were a linear, Call-of-Duty esque type small-level FPS game, then you could sacrifice visuals to port it over, but Crysis isn't Call of Duty.

The entire map is dynamic. Crysis is about things going on all over the map, whether you're to witness it or not.

[QUOTE="steve17989"][QUOTE="Eyezonmii"] and it looks like you have READING PROBLEMS....i'm talking about a DOWNGRADED VERSION....YEEEESHH! Its been done before with many TOP PC games. Eyezonmii

If you wanted a downgraded Crysis on consoles, you'll have to play a game that doesn't resemble Crysis at all. So what's the point?

Without the massive areas, explosion effects, destructibility or the ammount of enemy's on screen, it wouldn't be Crysis. One of Crysis's main features are the huge open area's and destructability, without things like that Crytek may aswell make a linear shooter and call it Crysis Instincts.

[QUOTE="DragonfireXZ95"][QUOTE="Eyezonmii"] so cut the size down, i recall Farcry 2 on consoles having MASSIVE levels, while holding up everything it great and top form (graphics, etc)Eyezonmii

Errr uhh..

PC:

And the consoles...

[QUOTE="steve17989"][QUOTE="Eyezonmii"] wait so your every inch of crysis levels have something to do with an objective or story? YEH RIGHT. Some useless areas can be scaled down, same goes with the ammount of chaos on screen, explosions..etc..its possible. Eyezonmii

It's possible, but it wouldn't the the same Crysis people are playing on PC. It wouldn't even resemble it.

You wouldn't be able to port the game at it's core, it's scale it just too big. As I said before, they would have to make it linear and kill what made Crysis so great.

[QUOTE="Eyezonmii"][QUOTE="DragonfireXZ95"]

Errr uhh..

PC:

And the consoles...

DragonfireXZ95

all of you PC guys, seem to be making some silly excuses just to make crysis seem like this SUPER game that can't be done on consoles for the next 20 years. its you people being defensive, and not being rational. Wake UP! Eyezonmii

all of you PC guys, seem to be making some silly excuses just to make crysis seem like this SUPER game that can't be done on consoles for the next 20 years. its you people being defensive, and not being rational. Wake UP! Eyezonmii

Even Crytek said Crysis can't be done on consoles. Your the one not being rational.

all of you PC guys, seem to be making some silly excuses just to make crysis seem like this SUPER game that can't be done on consoles for the next 20 years. its you people being defensive, and not being rational. Wake UP! Eyezonmii

Oh, come on, can't you think of a better response than a sily cop-out like this? :roll:

You know, it's better to admit that you've got nothing more to go on than to strawman the other guy's argument and attack the opposite side.

[QUOTE="Eyezonmii"][QUOTE="steve17989"]

It's possible, but it wouldn't the the same Crysis people are playing on PC. It wouldn't even resemble it.

steve17989

You wouldn't be able to port the game at it's core, it's scale it just too big. As I said before, they would have to make it linear and kill what made Crysis so great.

[QUOTE="DragonfireXZ95"][QUOTE="Eyezonmii"] err, uh..how does 2 pics show of a size of the entire game...LOL?Thanks for the laugh...gsus. Eyezonmii

[QUOTE="Eyezonmii"]all of you PC guys, seem to be making some silly excuses just to make crysis seem like this SUPER game that can't be done on consoles for the next 20 years. its you people being defensive, and not being rational. Wake UP! aliblabla2007

Oh, come on, can't you think of a better response than a sily cop-out like this? :roll:

You know, it's better to admit that you've got nothing more to go on than to strawman the other guy's argument and attack the opposite side.

[QUOTE="Eyezonmii"][QUOTE="DragonfireXZ95"] You said it had top form in graphics. Well those sure don't look like top form to me.steve17989

[QUOTE="steve17989"][QUOTE="Eyezonmii"] SO? its still the same game at its core, gameplay, style, shooting, story, etc. the rest is eye candy...that can be toned down...nothing new for console owners. Eyezonmii

You wouldn't be able to port the game at it's core, it's scale it just too big. As I said before, they would have to make it linear and kill what made Crysis so great.

If they made the whole game linear, it wouldn't be Crysis anymore. You'd be playing a different game. I didn't play Crysis for the story (the story sucked to be honest), I played it for it's enormous levels, dynamic non-linear gameplay, destructibility and fantastic graphics/effects. If you want Crysis Instincts, fine, but I don't see the point, since it won't be anything like the real Crysis.

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[QUOTE="Eyezonmii"]all of you PC guys, seem to be making some silly excuses just to make crysis seem like this SUPER game that can't be done on consoles for the next 20 years. its you people being defensive, and not being rational. Wake UP! Eyezonmii

Oh, come on, can't you think of a better response than a sily cop-out like this? :roll:

You know, it's better to admit that you've got nothing more to go on than to strawman the other guy's argument and attack the opposite side.

:roll: We're the ones trying to explain to you why we're saying this. Throughout the thread, you've basically covered your ears and continued saying that it's possible, despite various arguments to the contrary, and then you resorted to strawmanning our arguments and calling us irrational. In this debate, you need to know that if there is somebody making silly arguments, it's not us.

[QUOTE="steve17989"][QUOTE="Eyezonmii"] have you even played the game? Farcry 2 on consoles looks dam good, the difference isn't that BIG....and its good enough. Eyezonmii

Then I suggest you play the PC and console versions, and see how much better it looks for yourself.