yes, MR Developer. *bows*Even on low it wouldn't work very well.
Stick to far cry because that's as good as it will get for console gamers.
Leejjohno
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[QUOTE="AnnoyedDragon"]Ok here is the CEO of Crytek pretty much saying what we have all said, if this doesn't do it nothing will.Eyezonmiidated 07, (by now tools and knowledge of hardware have changedi He is also hyping it up a bit to get people more interested. srsly, that doesn't disapproved anything, since i've mentioned it being DOWNGRADED enough to make it happen on consoles....those ISSUE he states can still be had and enjoyed somewhat at a reasonable level.. some .console games have already done it to some degree. sorry.
So did consoles become more powerful all of a sudden? The devloper also says that Crysis on consoles would be a different gaming experience! Not downgraded, Different!
Is this still going?i know it won't be DA CRY---SIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! stated that a million times, but that doesn't mean consolites can't still enjoy the experience of what it offers to some degree. Size, destructions, explosions, chaos on screen at one time, etc etc. We can still get the goodness out of it to an enjoyable level.
Crysis is possible on consoles but it would not be the Crysis.It would be Dead Rising on the Wii and guess what?The game's not getting any good hype at all.Lto_thaG
[QUOTE="AnnoyedDragon"]Ok here is the CEO of Crytek pretty much saying what we have all said, if this doesn't do it nothing will.Eyezonmiidated 07, (by now tools and knowledge of hardware have changedi He is also hyping it up a bit to get people more interested. srsly, that doesn't disapproved anything, since i've mentioned it being DOWNGRADED enough to make it happen on consoles....those ISSUE he states can still be had and enjoyed somewhat at a reasonable level.. some .console games have already done it to some degree. sorry. Oh please. Understanding of the hardware has changed? That makes no sense. The hardware was old to begin with. You think you know better than the CEO that made the game? Let's face it. You've lost the argument. You've brought nothing to the discussion but hypotheticals and lack of understanding on a technical level. We've provided you with technical information and information from the developers themselves. I still want to know if you've actually played Crysis.
dated 07, (by now tools and knowledge of hardware have changedi He is also hyping it up a bit to get people more interested. srsly, that doesn't disapproved anything, since i've mentioned it being DOWNGRADED enough to make it happen on consoles....those ISSUE he states can still be had and enjoyed somewhat at a reasonable level.. some .console games have already done it to some degree. sorry.[QUOTE="Eyezonmii"][QUOTE="AnnoyedDragon"]Ok here is the CEO of Crytek pretty much saying what we have all said, if this doesn't do it nothing will.steve17989
So did consoles become more powerful all of a sudden? The devloper also says that Crysis on consoles would be a different gaming experience! Not downgraded, Different!
Nope, but in time...new knowledge of working around bottle necks and having new tools to better optimize hardware happens all the time. Neat tricks and shortcuts can be done to give a similar effect..etc. you should know this.[QUOTE="Lto_thaG"]Is this still going?i know it won't be DA CRY---SIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! stated that a million times, but that doesn't mean consolites can't still enjoy the experience of what it offers to some degree. Size, destructions, explosions, chaos on screen at one time, etc etc. We can still get the goodness out of it to an enjoyable level.
Crysis is possible on consoles but it would not be the Crysis.It would be Dead Rising on the Wii and guess what?The game's not getting any good hype at all.Eyezonmii
The developer in the interview already said it would be a different gameplay experience. The fact are staring straight at you, yet you still refuse to use logic.
[QUOTE="Eyezonmii"][QUOTE="AnnoyedDragon"]Ok here is the CEO of Crytek pretty much saying what we have all said, if this doesn't do it nothing will.IndianaJoshdated 07, (by now tools and knowledge of hardware have changedi He is also hyping it up a bit to get people more interested. srsly, that doesn't disapproved anything, since i've mentioned it being DOWNGRADED enough to make it happen on consoles....those ISSUE he states can still be had and enjoyed somewhat at a reasonable level.. some .console games have already done it to some degree. sorry. Oh please. Understanding of the hardware has changed? That makes no sense. The hardware was old to begin with. You think you know better than the CEO that made the game? Let's face it. You've lost the argument. You've brought nothing to the discussion but hypotheticals and lack of understanding on a technical level. We've provided you with technical information and information from the developers themselves. I still want to know if you've actually played Crysis. in time...new knowledge of working around bottle necks and having new tools to better optimize hardware happens all the time. Neat tricks and shortcuts can be done to give a similar effect..etc. you should know this.
[QUOTE="Lto_thaG"]Is this still going?i know it won't be DA CRY---SIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! stated that a million times, but that doesn't mean consolites can't still enjoy the experience of what it offers to some degree. Size, destructions, explosions, chaos on screen at one time, etc etc. We can still get the goodness out of it to an enjoyable level. The game will get poor reviews probably and the people will just plain laugh at the game as much as they are laughing at DR:Wii.The game will be a joke compared to the superior product. Mail a letter to Crytek and tell 'em to do this.They'll probably sent you a letter back with a ':lol:' in it.
Crysis is possible on consoles but it would not be the Crysis.It would be Dead Rising on the Wii and guess what?The game's not getting any good hype at all.Eyezonmii
[QUOTE="Leejjohno"][QUOTE="Eyezonmii"] dated 07, (by now tools and knowledge of hardware have changedi He is also hyping it up a bit to get people more interested. srsly, that doesn't disapproved anything, since i've mentioned it being DOWNGRADED enough to make it happen on consoles....those ISSUE he states can still be had and enjoyed somewhat at a reasonable level.. some .console games have already done it to some degree. sorry. Eyezonmii
So did consoles become more powerful all of a sudden? The devloper also says that Crysis on consoles would be a different gaming experience! Not downgraded, Different!
Nope, but in time...new knowledge of working around bottle necks and having new tools to better optimize hardware happens all the time. Neat tricks and shortcuts can be done to give a similar effect..etc. you should know this.But the problem can't be fixed with "tricks". The developers said there simply isn't enough memory! There is no trick to get passed that problem!
i know it won't be DA CRY---SIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! stated that a million times, but that doesn't mean consolites can't still enjoy the experience of what it offers to some degree. Size, destructions, explosions, chaos on screen at one time, etc etc. We can still get the goodness out of it to an enjoyable level.[QUOTE="Eyezonmii"][QUOTE="Lto_thaG"]Is this still going?
Crysis is possible on consoles but it would not be the Crysis.It would be Dead Rising on the Wii and guess what?The game's not getting any good hype at all.steve17989
The developer in the interview already said it would be a different gameplay experience. The fact are staring straight at you, yet you still refuse to use logic.
and when did i say it wouldn't be different, but the exact same....even tho i mentioned a downgraded experience, every time? gosh, you people can't read. ALL I'M SAYING IS ALL THOSE ISSUES WITH CRYSIS YOU'VE STATED CAN BE DONE ON CONSOLES AT A REASONABLE LEVEL..just not as good. Noting is impossible. It would just have to be downgraded...so the experience won't be as great....big deal .[QUOTE="Lto_thaG"]Is this still going?i know it won't be DA CRY---SIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! stated that a million times, but that doesn't mean consolites can't still enjoy the experience of what it offers to some degree. Size, destructions, explosions, chaos on screen at one time, etc etc. We can still get the goodness out of it to an enjoyable level.
Crysis is possible on consoles but it would not be the Crysis.It would be Dead Rising on the Wii and guess what?The game's not getting any good hype at all.Eyezonmii
[QUOTE="AnnoyedDragon"]Ok here is the CEO of Crytek pretty much saying what we have all said, if this doesn't do it nothing will.Eyezonmiidated 07, (by now tools and knowledge of hardware have changedi He is also hyping it up a bit to get people more interested. srsly, that doesn't disapproved anything, since i've mentioned it being DOWNGRADED enough to make it happen on consoles....those ISSUE he states can still be had and enjoyed somewhat at a reasonable level.. some .console games have already done it to some degree. sorry.
Who cares what it is dated, console memory doesn't magically become larger over time. You cannot store more into 256mb ram in 09 than you could in 07.
Honestly we have already gone over it not being downgrabable without changing the core experience countless times now, the game cannot be scaled to a point similar to the core experience while being able to work on consoles. If you won't take the CEO of Crytek word for it nothing is going to convince you, you have already decided on the end result before asking the question and won't budge from it.
I'm done, this person isn't interested in understanding this.
[QUOTE="Eyezonmii"][QUOTE="Leejjohno"]Nope, but in time...new knowledge of working around bottle necks and having new tools to better optimize hardware happens all the time. Neat tricks and shortcuts can be done to give a similar effect..etc. you should know this.So did consoles become more powerful all of a sudden? The devloper also says that Crysis on consoles would be a different gaming experience! Not downgraded, Different!
steve17989
But the problem can't be fixed with "tricks". The developers said there simply isn't enough memory! There is no trick to get passed that problem!
balance is the key, again, toning things down, while increasing others....its possible. Like i said, it isn't about duplicating the experience but getting a taste of it at a acceptible level...so we can see what crysis is actually about...SCOPE, SIZE...etc.[QUOTE="steve17989"][QUOTE="Eyezonmii"] i know it won't be DA CRY---SIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! stated that a million times, but that doesn't mean consolites can't still enjoy the experience of what it offers to some degree. Size, destructions, explosions, chaos on screen at one time, etc etc. We can still get the goodness out of it to an enjoyable level. Eyezonmii
The developer in the interview already said it would be a different gameplay experience. The fact are staring straight at you, yet you still refuse to use logic.
and when did i say it wouldn't be different, but the exact same....even tho i mentioned a downgraded experience, every time? gosh, you people can't read. ALL I'M SAYING IS ALL THOSE ISSUES WITH CRYSIS YOU'VE STATED CAN BE DONE ON CONSOLES AT A REASONABLE LEVEL..just not as good. Noting is impossible. It would just have to be downgraded...so the experience won't be as great....big deal .It would be so dowgraded that the experience would DIFFERENT, not resembling PC Crysis! Even the developer says this! You wouldn't be getting Crysis, you would be getting Crysis Instincts, and what would be the point of that? You still wouldn't be getting Crysis!
[QUOTE="AnnoyedDragon"][QUOTE="Eyezonmii"] dated 07, (by now tools and knowledge of hardware have changedi He is also hyping it up a bit to get people more interested. srsly, that doesn't disapproved anything, since i've mentioned it being DOWNGRADED enough to make it happen on consoles....those ISSUE he states can still be had and enjoyed somewhat at a reasonable level.. some .console games have already done it to some degree. sorry. Eyezonmii
Who cares what it is dated, console memory doesn't magically become larger over time. You cannot store more into 256mb ram in 09 than you could in 07.
Honestly we have already gone over it not being downgrabable without changing the core experience countless times now, the game cannot be scaled to a point similar to the core experience while being able to work on consoles. If you won't take the CEO of Crytek word for it nothing is going to convince you, you have already decided on the end result before asking the question and won't budge from it.
I'm done, this person isn't interested in understanding this.
MEMORY IS WORKED AROUND WHEN YOU DOWNGRADE THE GAME. GSUS!But then you would get a different gaming experience, as confirmed by the developer. BTW, fix your caps lock key.
[QUOTE="Eyezonmii"][QUOTE="steve17989"]and when did i say it wouldn't be different, but the exact same....even tho i mentioned a downgraded experience, every time? gosh, you people can't read. ALL I'M SAYING IS ALL THOSE ISSUES WITH CRYSIS YOU'VE STATED CAN BE DONE ON CONSOLES AT A REASONABLE LEVEL..just not as good. Noting is impossible. It would just have to be downgraded...so the experience won't be as great....big deal .The developer in the interview already said it would be a different gameplay experience. The fact are staring straight at you, yet you still refuse to use logic.
steve17989
It would be so dowgraded that the experience would DIFFERENT, not resembling PC Crysis! Even the developer says this! You wouldn't be getting Crysis, you would be getting Crysis Instincts, and what would be the point of that? You still wouldn't be getting Crysis!
so in other words it won't look or play ANYTHING LIKE crysis in that degree? NOT EVEN a little of it...its just a SUPER DOOPA PC FUTURE PROOF GAME THAT ONLY the PS8000 can play? What crysis does is NOTHING NEW...it just does it in a more extreme level due to great hardware.....it can still be enjoyed in a similar fashion.[QUOTE="Eyezonmii"][QUOTE="AnnoyedDragon"]MEMORY IS WORKED AROUND WHEN YOU DOWNGRADE THE GAME. GSUS!Who cares what it is dated, console memory doesn't magically become larger over time. You cannot store more into 256mb ram in 09 than you could in 07.
Honestly we have already gone over it not being downgrabable without changing the core experience countless times now, the game cannot be scaled to a point similar to the core experience while being able to work on consoles. If you won't take the CEO of Crytek word for it nothing is going to convince you, you have already decided on the end result before asking the question and won't budge from it.
I'm done, this person isn't interested in understanding this.
steve17989
But then you would get a different gaming experience, as confirmed by the developer. BTW, fix your caps lock key.
Yes i know the experience would be altered....i never ARGUED that..did i? but why do you dodge my argument of it still being able to resemble the experience in a more toned down fashion? like i said, crysis does nothing new..it just does it better than anyone else....due to great hardware.[QUOTE="steve17989"][QUOTE="Eyezonmii"] and when did i say it wouldn't be different, but the exact same....even tho i mentioned a downgraded experience, every time? gosh, you people can't read. ALL I'M SAYING IS ALL THOSE ISSUES WITH CRYSIS YOU'VE STATED CAN BE DONE ON CONSOLES AT A REASONABLE LEVEL..just not as good. Noting is impossible. It would just have to be downgraded...so the experience won't be as great....big deal .Eyezonmii
It would be so dowgraded that the experience would DIFFERENT, not resembling PC Crysis! Even the developer says this! You wouldn't be getting Crysis, you would be getting Crysis Instincts, and what would be the point of that? You still wouldn't be getting Crysis!
so in other words it won't look or play ANYTHING LIKE crysis in that degree? NOT EVEN a little of it...its just a SUPER DOOPA PC FUTURE PROOF GAME THAT ONLY the PS8000 can play? What crysis does is NOTHING NEW...it just does it in a more extreme level due to great hardware.....it can still be enjoyed in a similar fashion.Wow. Go watch the developer interview again. The scale of Crysis is a big part of the game, they would have to divide the game into small 'bubbles' to port this to consoles, thus changing the gameplay experience. Confirmed by a developer!
These threads only come from people who've never actually played Crysis. 360 and PS3 can't handle Crysis on lowest settings @ 640x480.Brainkiller05i know, but downgrade the game, remove things....scale it down...but keep what makes it SHINE to a nice reasonable level..hows that?
[QUOTE="skrat_01"]Someone said something about brick walls earlier? Well, on that note - I agree completely. This is nothing sheer of amazing.Eyezonmiijust because you can't prove me wrong..? AWWWWWW
Lol, a DVELOPER proved you wrong, you just can't admit it!
[QUOTE="Brainkiller05"]These threads only come from people who've never actually played Crysis. 360 and PS3 can't handle Crysis on lowest settings @ 640x480.Eyezonmiii know, but downgrade the game, remove things....scale it down...but keep what makes it SHINE to a nice reasonable level..hows that?
Not possible, confirmed by a developer.
Far Cry 2 is a great example. EyezonmiiFC2 has small levels, it streams everything in reality, the only "alive" part of the world is the small bubble around player, everything else is dead and frozen.
You could make Crysis on consoles, the problem is it would look weak and play like crap. Not just because of tech downrages, but Crysis also is very mouse centric, it just won't work well on a pad, it's too fast and too sharp. Simple downraged port would end up as a pure crap. To make Crysis on consoles nice you would have to redesign the whole game, rewrite the engine, redo the assets to make them look nice, redesign the levels, rewrite the AI and whole physics system. It would be a lot of work, almost as much as creating a new game itself. Why would Crytek bother? It's not worth the effort and wouldn't even sell all that well (like all PC FPSes ported to consoles after a year or two). Plus it would just be horribly boring and uninspiring job for Crytek guys and they;re too attached to the brand to hire somebody else to make the console port.
Crytek has multiple teams and some are working on console games, games that will be designed around consoles hardware and controls from the start and it does make far more sense to them
i know, but downgrade the game, remove things....scale it down...but keep what makes it SHINE to a nice reasonable level..hows that?[QUOTE="Eyezonmii"][QUOTE="Brainkiller05"]These threads only come from people who've never actually played Crysis. 360 and PS3 can't handle Crysis on lowest settings @ 640x480.steve17989
Not possible, confirmed by a developer.
he never mentioned anything about scaling the game down and removing things...cause we all know its possible. Don't be thick headed to impress your E-Pc friends.[QUOTE="Brainkiller05"]These threads only come from people who've never actually played Crysis. 360 and PS3 can't handle Crysis on lowest settings @ 640x480.Eyezonmiii know, but downgrade the game, remove things....scale it down...but keep what makes it SHINE to a nice reasonable level..hows that? So what do you want? You want a game where you walk around a few yards of a beach and jump around with your Nano suit and throw barrels at soldiers? Because you can already get that experience from a bunch of other games. But that's not Crysis.
I demand cryotasis on the wii, i am sure devs could use their magical 'optimizational' skills to make it happen :roll:soiheardyoulikeIt could happen, take out all the water, physics, high level of graphics etc and there ya go, ohh wait that isn't cryotasis anymore, kinda like what brick wall wants to happen with crysis.
[QUOTE="Eyezonmii"][QUOTE="Brainkiller05"]These threads only come from people who've never actually played Crysis. 360 and PS3 can't handle Crysis on lowest settings @ 640x480.IndianaJoshi know, but downgrade the game, remove things....scale it down...but keep what makes it SHINE to a nice reasonable level..hows that? So what do you want? You want a game where you walk around a few yards of a beach and jump around with your Nano suit and throw barrels at soldiers? Because you can already get that experience from a bunch of other games. But that's not Crysis. But i want it set in the world of crysis..the nanosuit, gameplay mechanic, characters, story...so anyone can enjoy it and get a taste of what crysis does. Even if its toned down.
[QUOTE="steve17989"][QUOTE="Eyezonmii"] i know, but downgrade the game, remove things....scale it down...but keep what makes it SHINE to a nice reasonable level..hows that?Eyezonmii
Not possible, confirmed by a developer.
he never mentioned anything about scaling the game down and removing things...cause we all know its possible. Don't be thick headed to impress your E-Pc friends.LOL, getting a bit angry now that you've lost your argument! He says that they would have to redo the game into small gameplay 'bubbles' completely changing the game experience. Who should I trust, a game developer, or a delusional fanboy...?
[QUOTE="IndianaJosh"][QUOTE="Eyezonmii"] i know, but downgrade the game, remove things....scale it down...but keep what makes it SHINE to a nice reasonable level..hows that?EyezonmiiSo what do you want? You want a game where you walk around a few yards of a beach and jump around with your Nano suit and throw barrels at soldiers? Because you can already get that experience from a bunch of other games. But that's not Crysis. But i want it set in the world of crysis..the nanosuit, gameplay mechanic, characters, story...so anyone can enjoy it and get a taste of what crysis does. Even if its toned down.
You'll never get a gameplay experience like that of PC Crysis on current gen consoles, confirmed by a developer. Pray for Crysis Instincts, but that sure won't be like Crysis on PC.
[QUOTE="Eyezonmii"][QUOTE="steve17989"]he never mentioned anything about scaling the game down and removing things...cause we all know its possible. Don't be thick headed to impress your E-Pc friends.Not possible, confirmed by a developer.
steve17989
LOL, getting a bit angry now that you've lost your argument! He says that they would have to redo the game into small gameplay 'bubbles' completely changing the game experience. Who should I trust, a game developer, or a delusional fanboy...?
and what do you think i was implying, when i meant DOWNGRADED? the experience would be different as in toned down in terms of scale and effects...but it can still be done. and me a fanboy? stop looking in the mirror.[QUOTE="Eyezonmii"][QUOTE="Brainkiller05"]These threads only come from people who've never actually played Crysis. 360 and PS3 can't handle Crysis on lowest settings @ 640x480.mo0ksii know, but downgrade the game, remove things....scale it down...but keep what makes it SHINE to a nice reasonable level..hows that? Then it wouldn't be Crysis, like how everyone has been saying here. You'll have a nanosuit that would be virtually useless because of the linearity. The gameplay will not be intact at all. Do you understand? Or do you just want to hear what you want to hear. This is getting pathetic. What SUPER DOOPER experience are we on about here...all you people do is go on and on about this EXPERIENCE...what crysis does isn't NEW...just does it in a more extreme and advanced state..something that can be resembled in a toned down fashion. let it go.
[QUOTE="skrat_01"][QUOTE="Eyezonmii"] just because you can't prove me wrong..? AWWWWWWEyezonmiilol. :lol: I dont need to prove you wrong. You ARE wrong, just struggling to accept it. And there is a whole thread to prove it. A thread of biased PC raging boys? SUUURREEE! And yet whoever they are, they are correct.
You created this thread, and the issue has been resolved, pages ago.
If you cant accept the facts behind the result, then why should people even try communicating with you?
You're the only one arguing a futile point, of content that you didn't understand to begin with.
I don't want to convince you anymore, there isn't any point; i'd rather see you banter on elsewhere in your own ignorance.
[QUOTE="steve17989"][QUOTE="Eyezonmii"] he never mentioned anything about scaling the game down and removing things...cause we all know its possible. Don't be thick headed to impress your E-Pc friends. Eyezonmii
LOL, getting a bit angry now that you've lost your argument! He says that they would have to redo the game into small gameplay 'bubbles' completely changing the game experience. Who should I trust, a game developer, or a delusional fanboy...?
and what do you think i was implying, when i meant DOWNGRADED? the experience would be different as in toned down in terms of scale and effects...but it can still be done. and me a fanboy? stop looking in the mirror.The developer said a Different gameplay experience, not a 'toned down' gameplay experience (that would be different enough as it is). A developer proved you wrong, how much more do you want to get owned? Getting a bit aggressive now, aren't you? :lol:
[QUOTE="Eyezonmii"]didn't i just say imply a DOWNGRADED VERSION? DERR, it can't run its current form, but it can if things can be stripped down as many PC to console games have done...why is crysis an exception? SpinoRaptor24
Crysis on consoles would be the equivalent of Dead rising on Wii.
Don't know about that, I was happy with FarCry 2's visuals. Looked good on consoles.I don't think Crysis on consoles would look any worse than that.
[QUOTE="mo0ksi"][QUOTE="Eyezonmii"] i know, but downgrade the game, remove things....scale it down...but keep what makes it SHINE to a nice reasonable level..hows that?EyezonmiiThen it wouldn't be Crysis, like how everyone has been saying here. You'll have a nanosuit that would be virtually useless because of the linearity. The gameplay will not be intact at all. Do you understand? Or do you just want to hear what you want to hear. This is getting pathetic. What SUPER DOOPER experience are we on about here...all you people do is go on and on about this EXPERIENCE...what crysis does isn't NEW...just does it in a more extreme and advanced state..something that can be resembled in a toned down fashion. let it go. How do you know Crysis does nothing new? Have you finished it? Let alone play it? A downgrade would be useless to have because it wouldn't be Crysis. And you're acting as if Crysis is the only PC game that can't be done on consoles.
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