Why isn't Crysis on consoles yet?

[QUOTE="Eyezonmii"][QUOTE="McdonaIdsGuy"]This thread turned into a trolling fest from both sides...steve17989

I find cockroaches cute too...

[QUOTE="Eyezonmii"][QUOTE="McdonaIdsGuy"]This thread turned into a trolling fest from both sides...steve17989

I find cockroaches cute too...

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[QUOTE="Eyezonmii"] these PC guys chat a lot too...YEEESH! like cokroaches...swarming in armies looking to impress there buddys and defend there PC's...so cute. _Pedro_

I find cockroaches cute too...

[QUOTE="steve17989"][QUOTE="Eyezonmii"] and thats what i;ve been FREAKIN asking for....i never asked for CRYSIS..since it isn't possible....I just said a billion times Instinct would work. Eyezonmii

Then we've come to an agreement. We'll give you Crysis Instincts in exchange for two of your daughters, no ugly ones. Deal?

Come on, lighten up. I thought some friendly joking around could help end this thread. The point is, the Crysis experience on PC can never come to consoles, confirmed by a developer. In order for a console-port, the game design would have to be changed so much that it wouldn't resemble Crysis on PC anymore. And if it doesn't resemble Crysis on PC, what's the point of porting it?

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[QUOTE="Eyezonmii"] and finally that is what i was implying....i never claimed it to be the same game....just give the same outcome but downsize it...so it works, but still feels incredible in scope and fights. Story can still be kept the same. Eyezonmii

But it wouldn't work. A developer confirmed that it would be a different gameplay experience! Your asking for Crysis Instincts, not Crysis. You will be getting a different game

[QUOTE="Eyezonmii"][QUOTE="steve17989"]

Then we've come to an agreement. We'll give you Crysis Instincts in exchange for two of your daughters, no ugly ones. Deal?

steve17989

Come on, lighten up. I've owned you left and right in this thread, I thought some friendly joking around could help end this thread. The point is, the Crysis experience on PC can never come to consoles, confirmed by a developer. In order for a console-port, the game design would have to be changed so much that it wouldn'tresemble Crysis on PC anymore. And if it doesn'tresemble Crysis on PC, what's the point of porting it?

[QUOTE="steve17989"][QUOTE="Eyezonmii"] in other words, you admit defeat? ....Sure. classy fella..aren't you? Eyezonmii

Come on, lighten up. I've owned you left and right in this thread, I thought some friendly joking around could help end this thread. The point is, the Crysis experience on PC can never come to consoles, confirmed by a developer. In order for a console-port, the game design would have to be changed so much that it wouldn'tresemble Crysis on PC anymore. And if it doesn'tresemble Crysis on PC, what's the point of porting it?

But you can't keep the core of the gameplay, that revolves around the open-world gameplay, physics, scale and what-not. Your asking for a completely different game. Even a developer said Crysis on consoles would have a different gameplay experience.

[QUOTE="steve17989"][QUOTE="Eyezonmii"] in other words, you admit defeat? ....Sure. classy fella..aren't you? Eyezonmii

Come on, lighten up. I've owned you left and right in this thread, I thought some friendly joking around could help end this thread. The point is, the Crysis experience on PC can never come to consoles, confirmed by a developer. In order for a console-port, the game design would have to be changed so much that it wouldn'tresemble Crysis on PC anymore. And if it doesn'tresemble Crysis on PC, what's the point of porting it?

1. srsly, look at killzone 2 and tell me we can't have a great looking crysis?
2. Really want to see how it would turn out.

Eyezonmii

1. King Bond looks at Killzone 2 and see that it isn't as visually impressive as Crysis nor does it have the scale of levels that Crysis has. So no you can't have it unless you are getting a PC.
2. Then buy a PC.

all of you PC guys, seem to be making some silly excuses just to make crysis seem like this SUPER game that can't be done on consoles for the next 20 years. its you people being defensive, and not being rational. Wake UP! Eyezonmii

How are they not rational? The devs said many times that Crysis cannot be done on consoles? You wouldn't try to put Gears of War on Wii would you?

Lol, thanks for the laugh...you can't be serious. You're the one thinking its impossible for cyrsis to be done on consoles, while keeping the core experience and overall singple player elements...come back down to reality and then debate...christ! Eyezonmii

http://www.gwn.com/news/story.php/id/10208/Crytek_CEO_Crysis_Not_Possible_on_Consoles.html

CEO of Crytek says Crysis not possible on Consoles.

Crysis can't go on consoles, without making it pretty much a new game, taking out alot of the things that made Crysis, Crysis. It would pretty much be like the Dead Rising port to the Wii, but with no montion controls and half of the mall would be closed down.

The big problem is the lack of Ram. IIRC Crysis needs atlease one gig of Ram to run, that would mean that Crysis would be impossible to run on consoles unless you take out most of the stuff that made Crysis, Crysis.

EDIT: Also Blackbond, you can't use that, it seems the CEO of Crytek is a PC fanboy and the TC seems to know more about Crysis than the CEO does (after all the TC is saying that Crysis is possible on Consoels)

Crysis can't go on consoles, without making it pretty much a new game, taking out alot of the things that made Crysis, Crysis. It would pretty much be like the Dead Rising port to the Wii, but with no montion controls and half of the mall would be closed down.

The big problem is the lack of Ram. IIRC Crysis needs atlease one gig of Ram to run, that would mean that Crysis would be impossible to run on consoles unless you take out most of the stuff that made Crysis, Crysis.

EDIT: Also Blackbond, you can't use that, it seems the CEO of Crytek is a PC fanboy and the TC seems to know more about Crysis than the CEO does (after all the TC is saying that Crysis is possible on Consoels)

Chaos_HL21

Ok let's use pictures to explain this.

In the first picture is a cell streaming example, in the second Crysis.

With cell streaming small chunks of an area are loaded around the player (blue square), cells are loaded in and out of memory depending on the players position so they get the impression of a giant environment without needing gigabytes of memory. The yellow cells represent interactive content that is loaded and presented to the player, the white cells represent none loaded content that cannot be interacted with. Note there is an enemy in an unloaded cell, because consoles can only store 256mb of information in ram at any one time there isn't enough to load the cells were the second enemy is.

In Crysis no cells are streamed, a large map is dumped into memory with some objects being streamed in later. Because the whole map is basically in memory the player can interact with anything they can see, were in cell streaming they could only shoot the enemy on the right; using the method in Crysis they can also shoot the enemy on the upper left. In game play terms the right enemy may be approaching in a car while the left enemy may be way out at sea in a patrol boat, yet because of the way Crysis handles maps both are viable targets.

You get it now? Crysis would have to be converted to cell streaming to work on consoles, which would impact the players freedom and interactivity in the game.

AnnoyedDragon

This post deserves to be bumpedRougehunter

EDIT: Also Kingbond, you can't use that, it seems the CEO of Crytek is a PC fanboy and the TC seems to know more about Crysis than the CEO does (after all the TC is saying that Crysis is possible on Consoels)

Chaos_HL21

Usually it is the Mavericks that do infact know more then the people that are responsible for the creation of the game because well you are correct CEO's know nothing while Mavericks know everything.

[QUOTE="Rougehunter"]This post deserves to be bumpedLto_thaG

Don't the best PC titles, usually get ported to consoles (no matter the difference in hardware)Eyezonmii

[QUOTE="Eyezonmii"]Don't the best PC titles, usually get ported to consoles (no matter the difference in hardware)agentfred

Compliments from Mike as usual.

[QUOTE="DragonfireXZ95"][QUOTE="Eyezonmii"] err, uh..how does 2 pics show of a size of the entire game...LOL?Thanks for the laugh...gsus. Eyezonmii

Yes, it is. The difference is ALWAYS "that big" when it comes to games that are on PCs and consoles. FACT.

This is something this thread needs very badly. What you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul. Killfox

lazy Crysis devs can't program console play.. they don't know how to optmize for the console. in PC, they dont' need to worry about memories or graphic processing. If Crysis devs can make Crysis looks amazing in a budget pc, then we'll talk.. until then.. i doubt they could make a console Crysis looks anything more than just average.bluespikefree

lazy Crysis devs can't program console play.. they don't know how to optmize for the console. in PC, they dont' need to worry about memories or graphic processing. If Crysis devs can make Crysis looks amazing in a budget pc, then we'll talk.. until then.. i doubt they could make a console Crysis looks anything more than just average.bluespikefree

Crysis is THE killer app of this generation. There is only so much optimising one can do. :|

*sigh*

why isnt Crysis on consoles yet?

NO1 WOULD BUY IT

Heh.... I don't come to the forum for a day and I miss this....

Eyezonmii, here is a full explanation of why it is not possible.

Crysis, in the design they had from the PC version uses like 1.2 GB of RAM(VRAM and System RAM combined) just on medium settings.

Now, you mention Far Cry 2 like that somehow counts... Far Cry 2 has a serious issue in comparing though... Far Cry 2 has respawning enemies and doesn't use the RAM for areas you don't see. None at all. Now, if Crysis were to do this, you would result in a different game entirely. That wouldn't be Crysis. And Crytek making a "Crysis: Instincts" is 1000% out of the question. they had a VERY bad ending with Ubisoft as a direct result of Ubisoft going out and tearing the heart of their game out so that they could milk the game on consoles... Crytek HATED Ubisoft for that. It was exactly the reason why they left Ubisoft and went to Ubisoft's primary competitor, EA. So, why would they do the same thing they got pissed off about?

Either a console version of Crysis would have been Crysis, ported(which is impossible) or they would not have a Console version of Crysis at all. All or nothing. That was it. And since they couldn't do it all, there will NEVER be a console version of Crysis.

That answer your question? Although, I already know you just made this thread in a trolling attempt.

And here the LINKY to back me up and the end quote goes

In the latter part of 2009 is when Yerli expects Crytek to begin full production in its next engine, which will be tailored for development across multiple platforms. Until then, he's excited by the gameplay possibilities that may become possible as developers focus on technical aspects aside from graphical realism, though he didn't go into many specific examples of what was possible.IGN

And here the LINKY to back me up and the end quote goes

[QUOTE="IGN"]In the latter part of 2009 is when Yerli expects Crytek to begin full production in its next engine, which will be tailored for development across multiple platforms. Until then, he's excited by the gameplay possibilities that may become possible as developers focus on technical aspects aside from graphical realism, though he didn't go into many specific examples of what was possible.jasonheyman

That's not exactly comfromation of Crysis on consoles and even if it was 2010....?

Don't the best PC titles, usually get ported to consoles (no matter the difference in hardware) i'm sure the current gen console can run crysis on low or medium with some sacrifices, etc. FarCry 2 for example.

srsly, look at killzone 2 and tell me we can't have a great looking crysis?

Really want to see how it would turn out.

Eyezonmii

And here the LINKY to back me up and the end quote goes

[QUOTE="IGN"]In the latter part of 2009 is when Yerli expects Crytek to begin full production in its next engine, which will be tailored for development across multiple platforms. Until then, he's excited by the gameplay possibilities that may become possible as developers focus on technical aspects aside from graphical realism, though he didn't go into many specific examples of what was possible.jasonheyman

Cryengine 2 is a multiplatform engine as well. Crysis isn't on multiple platforms because it uses the engine in such a way that it doesn't work on consoles. Such a development is a likely with a theoretical Crysis 2 coming out during the next console generation...

Crysis's design makes it impossible to run on consoles, not the visuals.aliblabla2007

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Don't the best PC titles, usually get ported to consoles (no matter the difference in hardware) i'm sure the current gen console can run crysis on low or medium with some sacrifices, etc. FarCry 2 for example.

srsly, look at killzone 2 and tell me we can't have a great looking crysis?

Really want to see how it would turn out.

sirk1264

Crysis is not open, the levels are large, but it's still linear a to b

well, its resized but w/e

Crysis is not open, the levels are large, but it's still linear a to bswazidoughman

[QUOTE="aliblabla2007"][QUOTE="Eyezonmii"] Lol, thanks for the laugh...you can't be serious. You're the one thinking its impossible for cyrsis to be done on consoles, while keeping the core experience and overall singple player elements...come back down to reality and then debate...christ! Eyezonmii

Oh dear. Our argument consists of "Crysis's RAM usage, map techniques, complexity, .etc .etc make it impossible to be put on console without sacrificing fundemental elements of Crysis and thus making the game completely different.". You, on, the other hand, constantly say that it can be done without refuting any of these points, and you think I need to "come down to reality"? :roll: