Will PS4 be considered the greatest console of all time?

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#1 SolidGame_basic
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The PS4 is destroying all kinds of sales records and the sheer mass of games coming out on the system will put it in a league of its own. People are quick to point out that the PS4 doesn't have as many exclusives as previous Sony consoles, yet the consoles that do have more exclusives are still lagging behind. Which proves the point that in the end, it's about ALL games, not just a select few. Last gen PS3 had a lot of exclusives, but many have been forgotten because they just weren't that successful. Sony has created a great console that fits most gamers' needs, and for that, they have been rewarded with 50% of the market. We still have 3 years left at least and so I believe that PS4 will easily be the greatest console of all time. Don't you agree, SW? Is there anything that can stop it?

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#2 soulitane
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Probably will depend no which generation of gamers you ask.

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#3 Juub1990
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Short answer? No.

Not innovative, not enough unique games, two years in and arguably only one exclusive that will make history, nothing really new with it and the list goes on. Good console but no, not even close to the best of all time.

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#4 kingtito
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So sales determine the baddest console of all time? I thought it was games and in that case HELL NO. The PS4 doesn't rank in the top 5 in that regards.

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#5 N64DD
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LOL. No.

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#6 clyde46
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No, that honor goes to the PS2.

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#7  Edited By Juub1990
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@clyde46 said:

No, that honor goes to the PS2.

I would give it to the SNES. Greatest PS2 exclusives are Persona 4, GOW, Shadow of the Colossus, Ico and the like. They are excellent games but they simply don't compete against the best SNES exclusives. ALTTP, Super Mario World 2, Mario Kart, Contra III, Super Mario RPG, Star Fox, Super Metroid and many many more.

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#8  Edited By KEND0_KAP0NI
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The PS4 isnt even that good. It could be so much better but its taking forever or things are coming at all (fucking folders please Sony God... why cant I have my own pic,videos and music? )

the games havent been all that great either.

And the DS4 battery is a damn joke. Why doesnt sony come up with an update DS4 model (not a pro controller, although I wouldnt mind that either)

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Based on what? It hasn't done anything new or had any influence of any kind. It's not the SNES or 360 or PS2. It's an expensive expansion pack for last gen consoles that doesn't even let you play your old games

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#10 NyaDC
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It won't even be in the top 5, it's selling like hot cakes but it's one of the most unremarkable consoles to have ever released, it's vanilla ice cream.

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#11 NathanDrakeSwag
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@nyadc said:

It won't even be in the top 5, it's selling like hot cakes but it's one of the most unremarkable consoles to have ever released, it's vanilla ice cream.

Vanilla is by far the best ice cream though.

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@mems_1224 said:

Based on what? It hasn't done anything new or had any influence of any kind. It's not the SNES or 360 or PS2. It's an expensive expansion pack for last gen consoles that doesn't even let you play your old games

>calls it an expansion

>complains you can't play decade old games on it

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#13 NyaDC
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@NathanDrakeSwag said:
@nyadc said:

It won't even be in the top 5, it's selling like hot cakes but it's one of the most unremarkable consoles to have ever released, it's vanilla ice cream.

Vanilla is by far the best ice cream though.

It's the highest volume moving flavor, however it's unremarkable, it's plain.

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@NathanDrakeSwag: I'm sorry, were you trying to make a point or something? Do you not know what the expansion pack was? Did you just start gaming last gen or something?

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@nyadc said:
@NathanDrakeSwag said:
@nyadc said:

It won't even be in the top 5, it's selling like hot cakes but it's one of the most unremarkable consoles to have ever released, it's vanilla ice cream.

Vanilla is by far the best ice cream though.

It's the highest volume moving flavor, however it's unremarkable, it's plain.

Sometimes being plain is what people actually want. Change for the sake of change ain't always good. Ask Nintendo and M$ this gen.

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#16 chikenfriedrice
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No

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#17 Heil68
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Certainly when you see the way SONY gave the POWER back to the gamer and gave its fans the most powerful video game console in the history of video games at the same protecting gamers from MS' corporate DRM polices, you can make a strong case for it.

The reveal will never be forgotten and live on forever as the time MS got knocked the **** out for trying to change the industry on their own.

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@mems_1224 said:

@NathanDrakeSwag: I'm sorry, were you trying to make a point or something? Do you not know what the expansion pack was? Did you just start gaming last gen or something?

Your analogy sucked and made no sense. You complain about PS4 being an "expansion" of "last gen" yet your big complaint is not being able to play "last gen" games. Your analogies suck as bad as Dwight Howard's joke telling.

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#19 Boddicker
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@clyde46 said:

No, that honor goes to the PS2.

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#20 mems_1224
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@NathanDrakeSwag: Its not my fault the Boston public school system failed you. That's not what I was saying at all.

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#21 Heil68
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Lems thought this gen was there's like @jimmypsn...Turns out SONY kicked that sum'bithc wide open and if the sales kreep up like this not only will PS4 enjoy a 2:1 sales advantage, it could become GCOAT

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#23 Seabas989
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Nope and it's not even close to being the best Sony console.

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#24 Netret0120
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@clyde46 said:

No, that honor goes to the PS2.

This. PS2 had the exclusives, and sales. Unless PS4 gets some truly memorable games it won't be the greatest.

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#25 NyaDC
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@spicymeatball27 said:

lol NO! Do we consider the 2006 Wii the greatest console of all time just because it sold 120 million consoles or probably more since that numbered was released.Nope.

PS4 has had a bunch of 3rd party games which sell just as good on XB1 so the marketing hasnt done much when u see NPD every month in games. PS4 has shovelware of QTE films with ZERO gameplay lol. Uh huh sum gems u have right there LOL. Same with walking simulators. Bu...bu SOMA touched my heart & waling around in a empty world made me feel special lol. Driveclub/ knack all had piss poor reviews cuz they're crap. I bet all those were sold back to Gamestop after how awful these games are just like Killzone Shadowballs lol

The remasters on PS4 have been really bad. U have gimped versions with missing content & charging u full price with same graphics like GOW3 & Uncharted which no one wanted last holiday lol Zero online coop or MP exclusive games unless u torture yourself to play KILLZONE which everyone sent back to Gamestop. Where are the fun coop or MP games on ps4 exclusives 2 years later. Makes PS plus as useless as it was on PS3 ahaha.

So uh....NO PS4 is no where near being the best its just a multiplat machine & Bloodborne which everyone forgot about after March since consumers forgot about it in less then 10 days after it released besides the media playing it lol

Your post could have used better tact, but it's on point.

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#26  Edited By Wasdie  Moderator
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No. Sales don't define the best console ever, the legacy left behind by the console does. The PS4 is a multiplat machine. Nothing more. Gamers want their CoD/Madden/FIFA/Assassin's Creed/Fallout/AAA budget fix, they buy a PS4 to play those games. That's it.

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#27 italygamer
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I don't think so

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#28 silversix_
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I hope not.

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#29 onesiphorus
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It is too early to ask the question. Ask it once it is no longer in the market.

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#30 xxyetixx
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No way PS4 does nothing special and doesn't bring anything to the table.

PS2 helped usher in DVD, in slightly treaded in the online gaming relm.

PS3 made Blu Ray main stream.

PS4 just meh.

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#31 brn-dn
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Well the console itself is currently but the library still needs time before calling it the greatest.

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#32 Heil68
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Yes PS4 does everyhting right this gen and puts power back into the hands of the GAMER

PS2 helped usher in DVD, in slightly treaded in the online gaming relm.

PS3 made Blu Ray main stream.

PS4 just kicked the door wide open and meshed the live, learn and love philosophy with the by gamers for gamers mantra.

Now wonder PS4 is current gen 8 console leader.

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#33 lostrib
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seems unlikely

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#34  Edited By lamprey263
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no, this generation is going to be too short a generation for it to ever achieve greater greatness, Sony's first party to date has been too lacking to define it as well

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#35 lostrib
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@Heil68 said:

Yes PS4 does everyhting right this gen and puts power back into the hands of the GAMER

PS2 helped usher in DVD, in slightly treaded in the online gaming relm.

PS3 made Blu Ray main stream.

PS4 just kicked the door wide open and meshed the live, learn and love philosophy with the by gamers for gamers mantra.

Now wonder PS4 is current gen 8 console leader.

not a very convincing case for the ps4

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#36  Edited By GreySeal9
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@nyadc said:

It won't even be in the top 5, it's selling like hot cakes but it's one of the most unremarkable consoles to have ever released, it's vanilla ice cream.

Have to agree with nyadc here.

@NathanDrakeSwag said:
@nyadc said:
@NathanDrakeSwag said:
@nyadc said:

It won't even be in the top 5, it's selling like hot cakes but it's one of the most unremarkable consoles to have ever released, it's vanilla ice cream.

Vanilla is by far the best ice cream though.

It's the highest volume moving flavor, however it's unremarkable, it's plain.

Sometimes being plain is what people actually want. Change for the sake of change ain't always good. Ask Nintendo and M$ this gen.

It may be what people want, but it's hard to argue that such a plain console is the GOAT.

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#37 GreySeal9
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@NathanDrakeSwag said:
@mems_1224 said:

@NathanDrakeSwag: I'm sorry, were you trying to make a point or something? Do you not know what the expansion pack was? Did you just start gaming last gen or something?

Your analogy sucked and made no sense. You complain about PS4 being an "expansion" of "last gen" yet your big complaint is not being able to play "last gen" games. Your analogies suck as bad as Dwight Howard's joke telling.

The analogy is fine. You're just overthinking it to the point of non-comprehension. What he was saying is no different from saying that the PS4 is a PS3.5. Not rocket science.

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No. Not a huge jump in innovation and fresh titles.

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#39 GameboyTroy
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Nah, the PS2 was better, buddy.

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#41 cainetao11
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Like most things it will come down to perspective, or as Mr. Kenobi's ghost told Luke in Return of the Jedi "you'll find many things come down to a point of view". Maybe it will from some of these 15-20 something gamers. But from someone who has been at this hobby for over 30 years, the PS2 seems to still hold that mark. The PS4 is mirroring it in that it is getting 3rd party exclusives but many seem to be from Japanese companies making the types of games I bypass easily. The PS2 seemed to have 3rd party exclusive support from even many western devs which made it all the more dominant imo. Time will tell I suppose.

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#42  Edited By cainetao11
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@kend0_kap0ni:

"And the DS4 battery is a damn joke. Why doesnt sony come up with an update DS4 model (not a pro controller, although I wouldnt mind that either)"

After buying the Elite X1 controller I could definitely see me buying an Elite DS4. Expensive as they may be, I am loving the customizability of it. I'd save the cash do so for my PS4 as well. I am on and playing MGS5 as I post and would love to set somethings differently.

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#43  Edited By deactivated-5d1e44cf96229
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LOL! This is a joke post right? What great memorable games, besides maybe Bloodborne, does the PS4 have to be considered the greatest of all time? Or what great innovations has the PS4 introduced to be considered the greatest of all time?

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@storm_of_swords said:

LOL! This is a joke post right? What great memorable games, besides maybe Bloodborne, does the PS4 have to be considered the greatest of all time? Or what great innovations has the PS4 introduced to be considered the greatest of all time?

Well Share Play is a bit underrated of an innovation imo.

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#45 remiks00
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No.

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It's mainly beating everything left and right because the lack of competition, it is by no means mind blowing development from last gen nor does it give pc's run for their money like the gens before.

SNES and PS2 would be my choices.

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#47  Edited By deactivated-5d6bb9cb2ee20
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It could be- we'll see where it stands when it is done with its lifecycle.

The problem with it right now is that nothing defines it. In terms of hardware, it's literally a shinier version of what came before that doesn't attempt anything new. In terms of games, its biggest hits are multiplats, and so far, it has had no system defining games like usually all consoles have had by this point in their lifecycle.

Will it be the greatest? I don't know. Right now, no. But hey, 2016 looks great for it, so we'll know which way it's headed by the end of the year.

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#48 svaubel
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In terms of overall game library? Not even close to number one. Two years in and I still have more fingers on one hand than games for PS4 I actually care about.

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#49 xxyetixx
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@Heil68: dude the PS4 is just an Xbox 360 with a graphics bump and a share button.

OG Playstation, PS2, and PS3 are all better than PS4 and offered something different and better than the competitors.

PS4 is a flash in the pan and will be forgotten when the next generation of consoles come out. It will never be spoken of like Super Nintendo, Dreamcast, OG Playstation, PS2, or 360. Those consoles actually changed gaming

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#50  Edited By Legend002
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PS4 in 2016 will be more heavenly for gaming than all combined 1997.