Wow I'm not impressed with Pokemon XY's graphics

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#251 el3m2tigre
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[QUOTE="el3m2tigre"]

[QUOTE="ultraking"]

lets all be honest here..it does look pretty bad.

BigBoss255

It looks standard for a 3ds game, and it actually looks quite good in the battle sequences.

No it doesn't. I've played Resi, MGS, Zelda, Street Fighter and Mario 3D Land and they all looked a lot better than this.

Ok... they all look better than the standard 3DS game... your point?

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#252 SaltyMeatballs
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It's the textures, they are ugly, needs some filtering or something, DS couldn't do it, but no excuse for 3DS textures being blocky.
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#254 X_CAPCOM_X
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Dat chromosomal pokemon.
Next one should be called Pokemon Intron and Pokemon Exon.

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#255 deactivated-5d6bb9cb2ee20
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Dat chromosomal pokemon.
Next one should be called Pokemon Intron and Pokemon Exon.

X_CAPCOM_X
Pokemon Fusion and Fission please!
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#256 RyanShazam
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[QUOTE="X_CAPCOM_X"]

Dat chromosomal pokemon.
Next one should be called Pokemon Intron and Pokemon Exon.

charizard1605

Pokemon Fusion and Fission please!

Pokemon start DNA Digivolving.....

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#257 Mr_BillGates
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Who cares. That's the last thing lil boys and girls will care about.

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#260 cryemocry
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Nintendo does not care about technology, they are always a gen behind. This is why it is very important for them to never become the only one, if it is they would take us all back to the stone age of gaming. The only good thing about Nintendo is their 1st party games, which is the only reason I buy their systems.

Honestly they would just be better off as 3rd party really.

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n64 was a generation ahead of ps1 lol. ps2 was the first sony console with a gpu.
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#261 Gue1
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[QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

Nintendo does not care about technology, they are always a gen behind. This is why it is very important for them to never become the only one, if it is they would take us all back to the stone age of gaming. The only good thing about Nintendo is their 1st party games, which is the only reason I buy their systems.

Honestly they would just be better off as 3rd party really.

cryemocry

n64 was a generation ahead of ps1 lol. ps2 was the first sony console with a gpu.

N64 was more powerful but the disparity in graphics was nowhere near as big as the PS3 vs Wii.

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#262 mrmusicman247
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[QUOTE="X_CAPCOM_X"]

Dat chromosomal pokemon.
Next one should be called Pokemon Intron and Pokemon Exon.

charizard1605
Pokemon Fusion and Fission please!

Nintendo would have stolen my idea if that's the case
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#263 Pikminmaniac
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[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="X_CAPCOM_X"]

Dat chromosomal pokemon.
Next one should be called Pokemon Intron and Pokemon Exon.

mrmusicman247

Pokemon Fusion and Fission please!

Nintendo would have stolen my idea if that's the case

Don't worry, Nintendo's going to exhaust the entire alphabet before then. It won't happen until 9 more gens of pokemon :P

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Nintendo does not care about technology, they are always a gen behind. This is why it is very important for them to never become the only one, if it is they would take us all back to the stone age of gaming. The only good thing about Nintendo is their 1st party games, which is the only reason I buy their systems.

Honestly they would just be better off as 3rd party really.

ShadowMoses900

NES, SNES, N64, GC...Nintendo was not always a "gen behind."

On topic, I could care less about the graphics...I just want there to be some major gameplay changes and for it to really differentiate itself from past Pokemon entries.

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Vs

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#266 cryemocry
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[QUOTE="cryemocry"][QUOTE="ShadowMoses900"]

Nintendo does not care about technology, they are always a gen behind. This is why it is very important for them to never become the only one, if it is they would take us all back to the stone age of gaming. The only good thing about Nintendo is their 1st party games, which is the only reason I buy their systems.

Honestly they would just be better off as 3rd party really.

Gue1

n64 was a generation ahead of ps1 lol. ps2 was the first sony console with a gpu.

N64 was more powerful but the disparity in graphics was nowhere near as big as the PS3 vs Wii.

difference between n64 and ps1 was bigger.
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#268 deactivated-5d6bb9cb2ee20
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[QUOTE="charizard1605"]

Vs

Yeah...

Desmonic
Oh wow, that does look much better! Especially the last screen, it looks soooooooooo much sharper! In every possible way: textures, colours, details, effects. Man, dem streams do make a lot of difference XD

Okay, I'm not really sure, so I'll just as: sarcasm? :P
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#269 GreekGameManiac
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Get it together Nintendo fanboys.

TankBusterJenn

Pretty much this,actually.

Don't know why they are all crazy about them.

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#271 deactivated-5d6bb9cb2ee20
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[QUOTE="charizard1605"] Okay, I'm not really sure, so I'll just as: sarcasm? :PDesmonic

No, I'm serious :P Probably shol have turned off my sarcasm mode when writing that, sorry XD Seriously it looks day and night when side by side. The youtube version almost looks like a DS version of the game all blurred, discoloured and with the effects all messed up.

Okay lol, it's just hard to tell :P And yeah, ti does look infinitely better in the official pics than it does in the screengrabs. Can't wait to actually see it on screen.
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#272 GreekGameManiac
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Teh fanboiz r so excited nd stffz

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#273 campzor
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i dont care
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#274 EliteM0nk3y
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Would have been nice is the characters were less blockish, though maybe if they weren't the framerate would suffer greatly.
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#275 GreekGameManiac
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Would have been nice is the characters were less blockish, though maybe if they weren't the framerate would suffer greatly.EliteM0nk3y

Game Freak game,remember?

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#277 deactivated-5d6bb9cb2ee20
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[QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="Desmonic"] No, I'm serious :P Probably shol have turned off my sarcasm mode when writing that, sorry XD Seriously it looks day and night when side by side. The youtube version almost looks like a DS version of the game all blurred, discoloured and with the effects all messed up.Desmonic
Okay lol, it's just hard to tell :P And yeah, ti does look infinitely better in the official pics than it does in the screengrabs. Can't wait to actually see it on screen.

I'm sure it'll look much better on scree (as always). And this sort of game, with many different colours in any given frame would really take huge advantage of that OLED screen the Vita has (the second half of Gravity Rush and Uncharted are two great examples of that). Speaking of which, how good is the 3DS screen(s) by comparison?

Downright primitive; don't get me wrong, it's great, and the 3D effect is wonderful, and adds a nice visual flair. But the Vita has THE best screen I have ever seen on anything, period. Wish Apple would use it in the next iPad.
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#279 deactivated-5d6bb9cb2ee20
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[QUOTE="Desmonic"][QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="Desmonic"] I'm sure it'll look much better on scree (as always). And this sort of game, with many different colours in any given frame would really take huge advantage of that OLED screen the Vita has (the second half of Gravity Rush and Uncharted are two great examples of that). Speaking of which, how good is the 3DS screen(s) by comparison?

Downright primitive; don't get me wrong, it's great, and the 3D effect is wonderful, and adds a nice visual flair. But the Vita has THE best screen I have ever seen on anything, period. Wish Apple would use it in the next iPad.

I suppose Ninty choose price above anything else. I don't know for sure, but I can imagine that screen a big part of the Vita's overall price (both for Sony and the consumer). Still, I'm seriously considering saving a bit and getting a used 3DS in the near future. There are other games I'd like to try, but Pokemon is what's actually starting to push me over the fence :P The day we get some solid, lenghty gameplay will be the day I'll be "sold" most likely XD

Well, you need a 3DS anyway, it's got way too many great games coming for you to ignore it :P The 2013 lineup of the 3DS is insane. I'd bite if I were you lol.
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#280 GreySeal9
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[QUOTE="mems_1224"][QUOTE="-Patrick_92-"]To be fair Pokemon beats most anything Nintendo makes for the 3DS as well lol. Vita has plenty of good games, just cause Pokemon is great doesn't take anything away from the Vita or Sony.Gue1

I was just pointing that out to Gue1, if pokemon is just a bad rehash then what does that say about the Vita's lineup? The Vita does have some decent games but it doesn't have a system seller right now like Pokemon. I want it to because I really want to get one but Sony needs to stop trying to make it a small console. I mean, I would rather they put games like Journey, Walking dead and other arcade games on it rather than putting mediocre versions of Uncharted, killzone and all their retail releases

this thread is not about the Vita or Sony.We are talking about the new Pokemon game and it looks like the same rehash but now in 3D. Since 1996 the gameplay of this franchise hasn't evolved one bit beside some gimmick here and there like the pointless breeding or dual battles which add nothing to the strategy of a game that is nothing more than an archaic turn-based game with limited options and cookie cutter progression. Even the first Dragon Quest game which came out in 1986 has deeper mechanics and overall gameplay than the newest Pokemon game from 2011!

And is not just the games, have you ever seen an episode of the Pokemon anime? It's like freaking deja-vu but all the freaking time! It's literally the same thing over and over and over again. This phenomenon is just plain weird if you ask me. Nobody milks like Nintendo and Game Freak. Period.

You are a fool if you believe that.

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[QUOTE="Desmonic"][QUOTE="charizard1605"][QUOTE="Desmonic"] I suppose Ninty choose price above anything else. I don't know for sure, but I can imagine that screen a big part of the Vita's overall price (both for Sony and the consumer). Still, I'm seriously considering saving a bit and getting a used 3DS in the near future. There are other games I'd like to try, but Pokemon is what's actually starting to push me over the fence :P The day we get some solid, lenghty gameplay will be the day I'll be "sold" most likely XD

Well, you need a 3DS anyway, it's got way too many great games coming for you to ignore it :P The 2013 lineup of the 3DS is insane. I'd bite if I were you lol.

I know, I know, but the munniez :( Damn, we should get a dollar/euro for every post we make on SW lol That would be more than enough for our gaming needs XD

I'd be able to pay for college! :cry:
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#284 Nintendo_Ownes7
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charizard1605

It does look better the colors look brighter, it has better contrast and everything looks sharper and not blurry.

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#285 LadyBlue
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Pokemon games don't need crysis gfx.
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#286 LittleMac19
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I just simply want a more immersive story, that is all.
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#287 mitu123
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-Pokemon

-Graphics

Pick one!

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Vs

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charizard1605

Wow, that is much, much better.

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#289 Articuno76
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Game Freak have never pushed in the graphics department. What were you expecting?

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I see this is just bad trolling.

lundy86_4
Something better than that, that's for sure. I'd expect the graphics to be on par with Colosseum on the GCN (from a technical perspective a mid/low range GCN game) albeit at lower resolution. Heck they could have probably re-used assets from that as was. This isn't some tiny development studio working on a arcade title; this is a billion dollar company behind one of the biggest mega-franchises out there. It's absolutely absurd that those production values are not some of the best (if not THE best) on the system.
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#290 GreySeal9
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[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

Game Freak have never pushed in the graphics department. What were you expecting?

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I see this is just bad trolling.

Articuno76

Something better than that, that's for sure. I'd expect the graphics to be on par with Colosseum on the GCN (from a technical perspective a mid/low range GCN game) albeit at lower resolution. Heck they could have probably re-used assets from that as was. This isn't some tiny development studio working on a arcade title; this is a billion dollar company behind one of the biggest mega-franchises out there. It's absolutely absurd that those production values are not some of the best (if not THE best) on the system.

Colosseum was an incredibly small and limited game tho.

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#291 Articuno76
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[QUOTE="Articuno76"][QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

Game Freak have never pushed in the graphics department. What were you expecting?

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I see this is just bad trolling.

GreySeal9

Something better than that, that's for sure. I'd expect the graphics to be on par with Colosseum on the GCN (from a technical perspective a mid/low range GCN game) albeit at lower resolution. Heck they could have probably re-used assets from that as was. This isn't some tiny development studio working on a arcade title; this is a billion dollar company behind one of the biggest mega-franchises out there. It's absolutely absurd that those production values are not some of the best (if not THE best) on the system.

Colosseum was an incredibly small and limited game tho.

True, but I don't think there is anything technically stopping the developers from making a fully fledged Pokemon game to that technical standard. The graphics of Coloesseum with the large world of the handheld games...could totally have worked. The music should also be fully orchestrated at this point. There really is no excuse for Nintendo not to be going all in with production values (especially since they did with the Mario galaxy games,and these games are big if not bigger).
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Pokemon games don't need crysis gfx. Pete-B
Yes.. and they also don't need PS1 graphics.. Isn't 3DS supposed to be about as powerful if not more so than PS2? I even remember it being compared to a GameCube. I'm pretty sure the 3DS is a lot more capable than this.
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-Pokemon

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Pick one!

mitu123
I'll take them both thanks.
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#294 mitu123
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[QUOTE="mitu123"]

-Pokemon

-Graphics

Pick one!

Crossel777

I'll take them both thanks.

Not possible with Pokemon.

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[QUOTE="Pete-B"]Pokemon games don't need crysis gfx. Crossel777
Yes.. and they also don't need PS1 graphics.. Isn't 3DS supposed to be about as powerful if not more so than PS2? I even remember it being compared to a GameCube. I'm pretty sure the 3DS is a lot more capable than this.

The point is, a) Pokemon doesn't NEED pretty over world graphics b) There is so much going on in a Pokemon game that it probably isn't even possible for them to look as good as the best of the best on the 3DS.
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#296 GunSmith1_basic
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[QUOTE="charizard1605"] The point is, a) Pokemon doesn't NEED pretty over world graphics b) There is so much going on in a Pokemon game that it probably isn't even possible for them to look as good as the best of the best on the 3DS.

The sad thing is that you're probably wrong about that. The graphics aren't bad because there's more going on. They are bad because Nintendo doesn't put graphics as a priority for the Pokemon franchise. Mariokart 7 looks like a solid GC game. Pokemon XY looks like a Psone game.
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#297 nitekids2004
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[QUOTE="charizard1605"] The point is, a) Pokemon doesn't NEED pretty over world graphics b) There is so much going on in a Pokemon game that it probably isn't even possible for them to look as good as the best of the best on the 3DS. GunSmith1_basic
The sad thing is that you're probably wrong about that. The graphics aren't bad because there's more going on. They are bad because Nintendo doesn't put graphics as a priority for the Pokemon franchise. Mariokart 7 looks like a solid GC game. Pokemon XY looks like a Psone game.

"cause its Pokemon" is the lamest excuse ever.

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#298 Capitan_Kid
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[QUOTE="GunSmith1_basic"][QUOTE="charizard1605"] The point is, a) Pokemon doesn't NEED pretty over world graphics b) There is so much going on in a Pokemon game that it probably isn't even possible for them to look as good as the best of the best on the 3DS. nitekids2004

The sad thing is that you're probably wrong about that. The graphics aren't bad because there's more going on. They are bad because Nintendo doesn't put graphics as a priority for the Pokemon franchise. Mariokart 7 looks like a solid GC game. Pokemon XY looks like a Psone game.

"cause its Pokemon" is the lamest excuse ever.

Indeed. No reason to give GF an excuse
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#299 crimsonman1245
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[QUOTE="nitekids2004"]

[QUOTE="GunSmith1_basic"] The sad thing is that you're probably wrong about that. The graphics aren't bad because there's more going on. They are bad because Nintendo doesn't put graphics as a priority for the Pokemon franchise. Mariokart 7 looks like a solid GC game. Pokemon XY looks like a Psone game.Capitan_Kid

"cause its Pokemon" is the lamest excuse ever.

Indeed. No reason to give GF an excuse

Nintendo as a whole gets away with alot of things that no other publisher would.

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#300 lundy86_4
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[QUOTE="lundy86_4"]

Game Freak have never pushed in the graphics department. What were you expecting?

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I see this is just bad trolling.

Articuno76

Something better than that, that's for sure. I'd expect the graphics to be on par with Colosseum on the GCN (from a technical perspective a mid/low range GCN game) albeit at lower resolution. Heck they could have probably re-used assets from that as was. This isn't some tiny development studio working on a arcade title; this is a billion dollar company behind one of the biggest mega-franchises out there. It's absolutely absurd that those production values are not some of the best (if not THE best) on the system.

Colosseum was remarkably small and limited. In fact, this game offers the 3D battles for over 600-700 Pokemon. Furthermore, Colosseum was made by an entirely different developer. There is no way to know if they could re-use assets, and I very much doubt it due to the artstyle.

Actually, they are a small development studio. GameFreak only hires around 90 employees.