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#101 Makari
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What with that whole casual gaming and/or indie gaming thing, I think I'd take issue with that. Peggle is the devil, btw.
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#102 subrosian
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[QUOTE="AdrianWerner"]Gametap has over 80 fighting games, all playable online (including all 2D SNK games up untill their 2003 relases). Throw in Melty Blood, GuiltyGear and lots of doujin fighters and PC the best modern platform for 2D fighters. Ironic, isn't it? :)Blackbond

Damn....well I will admit I forgot about GameTap and yes this does serious damage to my thread lol.

But for modern JRPG and Fighting releases the PC is still lacking. But yeah gametap is pretty sick.

While "emulation emulation" (even though it's huge) might not be legal, let's not also forget about the mod scene and homebrew. With PC gaming it wouldn't be too far-fetched for a few college kids to get together with their friends and build their own 2D fighter.

The only genre the PC is truly lacking in is 3D non-adult-oriented JRPGs (plenty of adult-oriented ones if you import). Though, to be fair, everything is lacking in those, except for handhelds, which absolutely dominate the classic JRPG market in both volume and quality. Japanese support is getting better though - DMC4 is coming to PC, as are other titles - not necessarily because Japan itself cares about the PC, but because companies taking the games outside of Japan, looking to go multiplat, aren't keen to ignore a profitable install base.

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#103 AdrianWerner
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The site listed both 2D and 3D fighters and you claimed that plenty of fighters were avalible there yet hardly any were.
Gunraidan
I claimed that about 2D fighters and yes there are plenty fighters

some of them through ports,,AdrianWerner


Which ones? Do you any proof?


What proof? That some 2D fighters were ported to PC? :)


some of them through gametapGunraidan


Very few.


Majority of SNK fighers included are few?



So let me get this straight, I'm going to buy the PS2 version of Arcana Hearts and instead of playing it on my PS2, I'm going to install it and upload it to my PC. Now why wouldn't I just play it on my PS2?
Gunraidan


Install and upload? What the hell are you talking about?
And why would I keep two Playstation2 consoles just to be able to play Arcana Heart? Or are you suggesting I should mod my console? Why go through all the trouble when it runs on PC?

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#104 Forza_2
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Nah, but upon further insight I think I willingly gave up ground in the beginging. Its okay though I won it back. But you can go ahead and put forth your input of Fighters over Gametap. I'd appreciate it.Blackbond
It's pretty easy. You can play for free... just have to install the program which is about 30mb and you can play a few fighters for free. SF2CE for example.

Try it. It definitely doesn't play like the real thing.

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#105 Blackbond
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playable through emulation

AdrianWerner

Seriously man :|

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#106 wok7
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Its pretty much only MMORPG's now due to the unstandardized Hell of PC Gaming.
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#107 FrozenLiquid
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[QUOTE="Blackbond"]Nah, but upon further insight I think I willingly gave up ground in the beginging. Its okay though I won it back. But you can go ahead and put forth your input of Fighters over Gametap. I'd appreciate it.Forza_2

It's pretty easy. You can play for free... just have to install the program which is about 30mb and you can play a few fighters for free. SF2CE for example.

Try it. It definitely doesn't play like the real thing.

I've never actually played a SF that plays like the "real thing" i.e Arcade.

[QUOTE="AdrianWerner"]

playable through emulation

Blackbond

Seriously man :|

I know. It's just plain pathetic isn't it? You can get reported for talking about those things too.

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#108 AdrianWerner
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[QUOTE="AdrianWerner"]

playable through emulation

Blackbond

Seriously man :|

Yeah...I know...without the specific PS2 lights shining brightly under TV it just isn't the same :D

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#109 Forza_2
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I've never actually played a SF that plays like the "real thing" i.e Arcade.FrozenLiquid
Many of them are not any different from the arcade versions.

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#110 JiveT
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Its pretty much only MMORPG's now due to the unstandardized Hell of PC Gaming.wok7

You forgot about Sims expansion packs and Nancy Drew mystery adventures!

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#111 FrozenLiquid
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[QUOTE="Blackbond"][QUOTE="AdrianWerner"]

playable through emulation

AdrianWerner

Seriously man :|

Yeah...I know...without the specific PS2 lights shining brightly under TV it just isn't the same :D

No.

It's when you cross this line:

WARNING! More than 5 quotes in a post, flaming, trolling and posting in an account suicide thread will result in a moderation, and a possible suspension on your account. In addition, discussion about Downgraders, Emulators, Flash Cards, ROMs and Homebrew can also lead to a suspension or the possibility of permanent ban.Top of every page on the board

That things look a little hazy for your argument.

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[QUOTE="FrozenLiquid"]I've never actually played a SF that plays like the "real thing" i.e Arcade.Forza_2

Many of them are not any different from the arcade versions.

those on gametap aren't so much "not any diffrent", they are the original games, not ports.

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#113 FrozenLiquid
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[QUOTE="FrozenLiquid"]I've never actually played a SF that plays like the "real thing" i.e Arcade.Forza_2

Many of them are not any different from the arcade versions.

You think so?

I always felt they were.

But maybe because I've never owned an arcade stick in my life, and playing MvC just felt weird on a Playstation controller.

And besides, I always liked to put coins and hear the jingle of the "Press start now!" thing lol.

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#114 AdrianWerner
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[QUOTE="AdrianWerner"][QUOTE="Blackbond"][QUOTE="AdrianWerner"]

playable through emulation

FrozenLiquid

Seriously man :|

Yeah...I know...without the specific PS2 lights shining brightly under TV it just isn't the same :D

No.

It's when you cross this line:

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That things look a little hazy for your argument.

I don't think it's all emulation, only illegal one. Otherwise you can't talk about Virtual Console, Gametap, PS3 playing PS2 games or PC version of Phoenix Wright.

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#115 Forza_2
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those on gametap aren't so much "not any diffrent", they are the original games, not ports.AdrianWerner
Seriously, have you actually played any of them ? First the framerate is all weird. And then you have graphical glitches on top of that.

It definitely doesn't play like the real thing. Try for yourself.

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#116 FrozenLiquid
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I don't think it's all emulation, only illegal one. Otherwise you can't talk about Virtual Console, Gametap, PS3 playing PS2 games or PC version of Phoenix Wright.

AdrianWerner

So there are official PS2 emulators on the PC?

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#117 Blackbond
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You think so?

I always felt they were.

But maybe because I've never owned an arcade stick in my life, and playing MvC just felt weird on a Playstation controller.

And besides, I always liked to put coins and hear the jingle of the "Press start now!" thing lol.

FrozenLiquid

Well this is how you do it (not all fighting games shown just the first ones I grabbed) I'd recomend a Hori, an X-Arcade, or a Pro-Arcade stick.

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#118 Forza_2
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But maybe because I've never owned an arcade stick in my life, and playing MvC just felt weird on a Playstation controller.

And besides, I always liked to put coins and hear the jingle of the "Press start now!" thing lol.

FrozenLiquid

There is some crappy porting, though. I'm not sure about MVC, but Street Fighter vs X-men for example on the PS1. That one I know that is messed up.

But yeah, you should get a stick man ! You can get a high quality one for ~90 bucks for either PS2 or PS3.

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#119 AdrianWerner
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[QUOTE="AdrianWerner"]those on gametap aren't so much "not any diffrent", they are the original games, not ports.Forza_2

Seriously, have you actually played any of them ? First the framerate is all weird. And then you have graphical glitches on top of that.

It definitely doesn't play like the real thing. Try for yourself.

Never had any problems with their SNK games (didn';t try other ones thouhh). Looking at your problems I think their source might be on your side (configuration, too weak hardware).

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#120 FrozenLiquid
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[QUOTE="AdrianWerner"]those on gametap aren't so much "not any diffrent", they are the original games, not ports.Forza_2

Seriously, have you actually played any of them ? First the framerate is all weird. And then you have graphical glitches on top of that.

It definitely doesn't play like the real thing. Try for yourself.

Honestly, I wouldn't bet my money Adrian cares for them. He's a big gamer, no doubt, but I think his forte lies elsewhere.

That's only because I see him actually debating amongst keen fighting fans too. So yeah...

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#121 AdrianWerner
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[QUOTE="FrozenLiquid"]

You think so?

I always felt they were.

But maybe because I've never owned an arcade stick in my life, and playing MvC just felt weird on a Playstation controller.

And besides, I always liked to put coins and hear the jingle of the "Press start now!" thing lol.

Blackbond

Well this is how you do it (not all fighting games shown just the first ones I grabbed) I'd recomend a Hori, an X-Arcade, or a Pro-Arcade stick.

^^ what a maniac (in good meaning of the word :) )

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#122 FrozenLiquid
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[QUOTE="FrozenLiquid"]But maybe because I've never owned an arcade stick in my life, and playing MvC just felt weird on a Playstation controller.

And besides, I always liked to put coins and hear the jingle of the "Press start now!" thing lol.

Forza_2

There is some crappy porting, though. I'm not sure about MVC, but Street Fighter vs X-men for example on the PS1. That one I know that is messed up.

But yeah, you should get a stick man ! You can get a high quality one for ~90 bucks for either PS2 or PS3.

Gah... no love for the 360 arcade sticks? I sold my PS2 and I don't have a PS3 right now.

I got interested once I heard SF II HD is coming out, but I haven't seen any decent arcade sticks lying around.

Would you know if SF II HD is console only or arcade too? And if it's just a pure retexture?

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#123 Forza_2
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Never had any problems with their SNK games (didn';t try other ones thouhh). Looking at your problems I think their source might be on your side (configuration, too weak hardware).AdrianWerner
My PC can actually run SF3S flawlessly.

So yeah....

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#124 AdrianWerner
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[QUOTE="AdrianWerner"]

I don't think it's all emulation, only illegal one. Otherwise you can't talk about Virtual Console, Gametap, PS3 playing PS2 games or PC version of Phoenix Wright.

FrozenLiquid

So there are official PS2 emulators on the PC?

Nope, but there aren't any "illegal" PS2 emus either.

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#125 naval
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[QUOTE="AdrianWerner"][QUOTE="Blackbond"][QUOTE="AdrianWerner"]

playable through emulation

FrozenLiquid

Seriously man :|

Yeah...I know...without the specific PS2 lights shining brightly under TV it just isn't the same :D

No.

It's when you cross this line:

WARNING! More than 5 quotes in a post, flaming, trolling and posting in an account suicide thread will result in a moderation, and a possible suspension on your account. In addition, discussion about Downgraders, Emulators, Flash Cards, ROMs and Homebrew can also lead to a suspension or the possibility of permanent ban.Top of every page on the board

That things look a little hazy for your argument.

that doesn't looks wrong to me, its illegal to talk about emulator softwares and nothing is said about emulation in general

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#126 Forza_2
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Gah... no love for the 360 arcade sticks?

Would you know if SF II HD is console only or arcade too? And if it's just a pure retexture?

FrozenLiquid

There is a more recent love for the 360. Again, highest quality stuff ! The problem with the 360 is that it's expensive. You're gonna pay around 140 bucks for that.

http://www.arcadeinabox.com/Scripts/default.asp

On the plus side, it's highly customizable (Japanese or American parts). I can give you a link to a forum where the owner of arcadeinabox hangs out and answers questions if you want to...

PS: As far as I know it's only coming out for PSN and XBL. And they did remake all the sprites and backgrounds...

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#127 FrozenLiquid
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Well this is how you do it (not all fighting games shown just the first ones I grabbed) I'd recomend a Hori, an X-Arcade, or a Pro-Arcade stick.

Blackbond

Dude holycrap.

Is that some universal arcade stick though? You got heaps of different platforms on there so it looks universal...

Whenever I played DOA 4 I always craved the arcade stick. Same with VF5. 360's controller...hell any controller...doesn't do it for me.

But we all get used to turning our PS controllers into arcade sticks right? lol. Love how people change positions whilst playing fighting games on that.

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#128 AdrianWerner
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[QUOTE="AdrianWerner"]Never had any problems with their SNK games (didn';t try other ones thouhh). Looking at your problems I think their source might be on your side (configuration, too weak hardware).Forza_2

My PC can actually run SF3S flawlessly.

So yeah....

Must be your config/drivers then

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[QUOTE="FrozenLiquid"]Gah... no love for the 360 arcade sticks?

Would you know if SF II HD is console only or arcade too? And if it's just a pure retexture?

Forza_2

There is a more recent love for the 360. Again, highest quality stuff ! The problem with the 360 is that it's expensive. You're gonna pay around 140 bucks for that.

http://www.arcadeinabox.com/Scripts/default.asp

On the plus side, it's highly customizable (Japanese or American parts). I can give you a link to a forum where the owner of arcadeinabox hangs out and answers questions if you want to...

PS: As far as I know it's only coming out for PSN and XBL. And they did remake all the sprites and backgrounds...

Omg I'm really loving that dual 360 one. It looks so retro and funky and it looks like it's for a table top so you can stand up just like at the arcade! :lol:

Could you give me a link to the forums too please? Also, would you know if they're compatible with any region 360?

As for SF II, I did mean to say they're remaking the whole graphics thing. Looks like a flash game almost lol.

Oh yeah....do you hardcore fighters like conciously count frames etc whilst playing fighting games? Always thought it was a bit of a task doing so....

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#130 FrozenLiquid
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[QUOTE="Forza_2"]

[QUOTE="AdrianWerner"]Never had any problems with their SNK games (didn';t try other ones thouhh). Looking at your problems I think their source might be on your side (configuration, too weak hardware).AdrianWerner

My PC can actually run SF3S flawlessly.

So yeah....

Must be your config/drivers then

:lol:

It's always user-end error with you lot, isn't it?

Goddamn Vandal does the same thing too.

Jeez it's like the worst excuse you hermits could've ever come up with

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FrozenLiquid, did you get VF5 for 360? Does it kick ass?
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#132 Blackbond
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Dude holycrap.

Is that some universal arcade stick though? You got heaps of different platforms on there so it looks universal...

Whenever I played DOA 4 I always craved the arcade stick. Same with VF5. 360's controller...hell any controller...doesn't do it for me.

But we all get used to turning our PS controllers into arcade sticks right? lol. Love how people change positions whilst playing fighting games on that.

FrozenLiquid

Its called The X-Arcade Dual. Currently compatible with

  1. PS1/PS2/PS3
  2. Dreamcast
  3. GC/Wii
  4. Xbox

360 support is on the way. The stick itself is $130 and comes with one adapter. Each adapter for each console is $20 and it comes initially with PC support.

Right now I have Dreamcast and Xbox with the PS2 adapter coming free when I ordered it.

So that's $170 for a stick that is compatible with three consoles. Life-Time Warrenty as wel I might add.

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#133 FrozenLiquid
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FrozenLiquid, did you get VF5 for 360? Does it kick ass?Zeliard9

Rented it.

But I'm not a massive fan of VF 5. Wouldn't know how it compares to VF 4. It's pretty damn fun though. And you can't button mash. So you feel good learning everything lol.

So in that way, it kicks ass :P.

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#134 FrozenLiquid
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[QUOTE="FrozenLiquid"]

Dude holycrap.

Is that some universal arcade stick though? You got heaps of different platforms on there so it looks universal...

Whenever I played DOA 4 I always craved the arcade stick. Same with VF5. 360's controller...hell any controller...doesn't do it for me.

But we all get used to turning our PS controllers into arcade sticks right? lol. Love how people change positions whilst playing fighting games on that.

Blackbond

(pic)

Its called The X-Arcade Dual. Currently compatible with

  1. PS1/PS2/PS3
  2. Dreamcast
  3. GC/Wii
  4. Xbox

360 support is on the way. The stick itself is $130 and comes with one adapter. Each adapter for each console is $20 and it comes initially with PC support.

Right now I have Dreamcast and Xbox with the PS2 adapter coming free when I ordered it.

So that's $170 for a stick that is compatible with three consoles. Life-Time Warrenty as wel I might add.

-low whistle-

That's damn good. And I'm liking the button layout too. Positioning is slightly different but looks a little less cramped than the arcade-in-a-box one.

Gosh....which one to choose lol...

Then I can show my homegirl who's boss of the 2D fighters!!!!!

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#135 Blackbond
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-low whistle-

That's damn good. And I'm liking the button layout too. Positioning is slightly different but looks a little less cramped than the arcade-in-a-box one.

Gosh....which one to choose lol...

Then I can show my homegirl who's boss of the 2D fighters!!!!!

FrozenLiquid

What do you mean by positioning? The two extra buttons below the standard 6?

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#136 FrozenLiquid
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[QUOTE="FrozenLiquid"]

-low whistle-

That's damn good. And I'm liking the button layout too. Positioning is slightly different but looks a little less cramped than the arcade-in-a-box one.

Gosh....which one to choose lol...

Then I can show my homegirl who's boss of the 2D fighters!!!!!

Blackbond

What do you mean by positioning? The two extra buttons below the standard 6?

No, I meant, from that pic you showed, looks like the buttons are positioned at a slight slant from the arcade stick.

Could you confirm that for me?

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#137 Blackbond
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[QUOTE="Blackbond"][QUOTE="FrozenLiquid"]

-low whistle-

That's damn good. And I'm liking the button layout too. Positioning is slightly different but looks a little less cramped than the arcade-in-a-box one.

Gosh....which one to choose lol...

Then I can show my homegirl who's boss of the 2D fighters!!!!!

FrozenLiquid

What do you mean by positioning? The two extra buttons below the standard 6?

No, I meant, from that pic you showed, looks like the buttons are positioned at a slight slant from the arcade stick.

Could you confirm that for me?

Unless I'm drunk I don't thin its on a slant lol

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#138 Forza_2
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Omg I'm really loving that dual 360 one. It looks so retro and funky and it looks like it's for a table top so you can stand up just like at the arcade! :lol:

Could you give me a link to the forums too please? Also, would you know if they're compatible with any region 360?

As for SF II, I did mean to say they're remaking the whole graphics thing. Looks like a flash game almost lol.

Oh yeah....do you hardcore fighters like conciously count frames etc whilst playing fighting games? Always thought it was a bit of a task doing so....

FrozenLiquid

http://forums.shoryuken.com/showthread.php?t=138570

I don't know about the region you're gonna have to ask him.

Capcom is indeed remaking everything. Changing gameplay mechanics, touching up graphics and etc. So yeah, it isn't just copy and paste like they used to do with the SF2 series. But I don't believe they are adding any new moves or characters, though. Not quite sure... they didn't talk a lot about it, yet.

About counting frames, you mean like memorizing the frame data ? Sorry, little rusty here. I used to play in the arcade in the past and then I stopped playing for a few years and now I'm just getting back to it, basically.

Frame data is definitely important to read. Depending on the game, there are official guides that have them all (CVS2 for example has one). So, if you want to get better at CVS2, just buy the guide (or have a friend to scan for you) and you can start studying all the data.

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#139 funnymario
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Aye. And that's just one of the reasons I love my consoles :)
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[QUOTE="AdrianWerner"][QUOTE="Forza_2"]

[QUOTE="AdrianWerner"]Never had any problems with their SNK games (didn';t try other ones thouhh). Looking at your problems I think their source might be on your side (configuration, too weak hardware).FrozenLiquid

My PC can actually run SF3S flawlessly.

So yeah....

Must be your config/drivers then

:lol:

It's always user-end error with you lot, isn't it?

Goddamn Vandal does the same thing too.

Jeez it's like the worst excuse you hermits could've ever come up with

Why? It's true. visual/framerate errors are almost always fault of hardware. THe only ones who would deny this are silly console fanboys who run out of arguments to use against hermits. Wchich is silly because the need to often configure everything by yourself is in itself an argument against Pcgaming, not a excuse that's pro-pcgaming

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#141 peacebringer
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[QUOTE="DementedDragon"]

[QUOTE="Zeliard9"]Emulation, yo.Zeliard9

Illegal yo. :P

No, not necessarily. That's a big misconception. But you tell me what's so illegal about sticking an FF9 PSX disc into your computer and emulating it.

it's not illegal if you own the system and the game and use you PC to emulate.
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The thread starter's complaint is a bonus for me, since I think JRPGs and fighters are the two worst genres out there.

Fighters are too focused on buttonmashing and pressing combinations of buttons at the expense of actually controlling your character. They're overly simplistic and just plain frustrating to play.

JRPGs have more problems than I care to count: bad translations, lack of story choices, lack of character customization, too many FMVs, over-exaggeration of all statistics, and just a general lack of interactivity in every aspect of the game.

The only thing I would like to see more of on the PC is platformers and action titles (e.g. Ninja Gaiden, God of War) with solid controller support.

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Why? It's true. visual/framerate errors are almost always fault of hardware. THe only ones who would deny this are silly console fanboys who run out of arguments to use against hermits. Wchich is silly because the need to often configure everything by yourself is in itself an argument against Pcgaming, not a excuse that's pro-pcgaming

AdrianWerner

Spin it all you want. It's the bane of PC gaming.

I'm gonna try those GameTap versions. If they're anything like Forza is saying, then it's an inferior version in my eyes.

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#144 Forza_2
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Spin it all you want. It's the bane of PC gaming.

I'm gonna try those GameTap versions. If they're anything like Forza is saying, then it's an inferior version in my eyes.

FrozenLiquid

Street Fighter 2: Champion Edition.

And about the stick... if you really like fighting games, you have friends to play with, and you got some extra money. You probably won't regret getting that one from arcadeinabox. It also works with PC as well.

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[QUOTE="FrozenLiquid"]Spin it all you want. It's the bane of PC gaming.

I'm gonna try those GameTap versions. If they're anything like Forza is saying, then it's an inferior version in my eyes.

Forza_2

Street Fighter 2: Champion Edition.

And about the stick... if you really like fighting games, you have friends to play with, and you got some extra money. You probably won't regret getting that one from arcadeinabox. It also works with PC as well.

Hmm...

What do you think about Blackbond's setup? That X-play one.

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The thread starter's complaint is a bonus for me, since I think JRPGs and fighters are the two worst genres out there.

Fighters are too focused on buttonmashing and pressing combinations of buttons at the expense of actually controlling your character. They're overly simplistic and just plain frustrating to play.


OremLK

So let me get this straight.

Fighters are focuced on button mashing and pressing combinations of buttons. Well man those statements contradict eachother because Button Mashing like a rookie isn't pressing buttons in combination. They you go on to say that you use button mash and use a combination of inputs at the expensive of control. Yet the fighting genre requires the most precise control out of any genre out there. Hence the reason why there is no such thing as online competitive fighting. The slightest hickup can mess things up. Not to mention Arcade sticks are amongst the most expensive controllers out there.

Its obvious you know nothing about the fighting genre. Seroiusly why did you even bother? Overly simplistic and yet frustrating to play? Please stop contradicting yourself I mean you do it in the same exact sentence.

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#147 Blackbond
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[QUOTE="Forza_2"][QUOTE="FrozenLiquid"]Spin it all you want. It's the bane of PC gaming.

I'm gonna try those GameTap versions. If they're anything like Forza is saying, then it's an inferior version in my eyes.

FrozenLiquid

Street Fighter 2: Champion Edition.

And about the stick... if you really like fighting games, you have friends to play with, and you got some extra money. You probably won't regret getting that one from arcadeinabox. It also works with PC as well.

Hmm...

What do you think about Blackbond's setup? That X-play one.

www.x-arcade.com

  1. Single Sticks
  2. Dual Sticks
  3. Cabinets
  4. Track Balls
  5. Custom Parts

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#148 FrozenLiquid
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[QUOTE="OremLK"]

The thread starter's complaint is a bonus for me, since I think JRPGs and fighters are the two worst genres out there.

Fighters are too focused on buttonmashing and pressing combinations of buttons at the expense of actually controlling your character. They're overly simplistic and just plain frustrating to play.


Blackbond

So let me get this straight.

Fighters are focuced on button mashing and pressing combinations of buttons. Well man those statements contradict eachother because Button Mashing like a rookie isn't pressing buttons in combination. They you go on to say that you use button mash and use a combination of inputs at the expensive of control. Yet the fighting genre requires the most precise control out of any genre out there. Hence the reason why there is no such thing as online competitive fighting. The slightest hickup can mess things up. Not to mention Arcade sticks are amongst the most expensive controllers out there.

Its obvious you know nothing about the fighting genre. Seroiusly why did you even bother? Overly simplistic and yet frustrating to play? Please stop contradicting yourself I mean you do it in the same exact sentence.

When did you thorougly get into the fighting genre?

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#149 Blackbond
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[QUOTE="Blackbond"][QUOTE="OremLK"]

The thread starter's complaint is a bonus for me, since I think JRPGs and fighters are the two worst genres out there.

Fighters are too focused on buttonmashing and pressing combinations of buttons at the expense of actually controlling your character. They're overly simplistic and just plain frustrating to play.


FrozenLiquid

So let me get this straight.

Fighters are focuced on button mashing and pressing combinations of buttons. Well man those statements contradict eachother because Button Mashing like a rookie isn't pressing buttons in combination. They you go on to say that you use button mash and use a combination of inputs at the expensive of control. Yet the fighting genre requires the most precise control out of any genre out there. Hence the reason why there is no such thing as online competitive fighting. The slightest hickup can mess things up. Not to mention Arcade sticks are amongst the most expensive controllers out there.

Its obvious you know nothing about the fighting genre. Seroiusly why did you even bother? Overly simplistic and yet frustrating to play? Please stop contradicting yourself I mean you do it in the same exact sentence.

When did you thorougly get into the fighting genre?

I've always floated in and out of the genre but as of prolly two years ago I got real hardcore into it. Video Games started lacking in games that could be played competitively. Enter the fighting genre. Which is a highly competitive genre. Not only that but it can be played in quick bursts. Combine that with the fact that they are a low key/niche/retro breed of gaming ****and I had to have them all. I think I researched Arcade Sticks for abot 4 monthes before I decided on the X-Arcade. The Price, the awards/reviews, and the life time warrenty were just too much to pass up.

There is nothing better then bringing down a a bunch of games and hooking them up to the big screen in the lobby at the dorms and just playing with your friends.

Its just a genre that brings much enjoyment and you can always get better and better. Timing can never be 100% perfect but you can damn near play and practice until it gets close to it.

Fighters to me is a what a good example of video games are meant to be. Fun, full of depth, competitive, and person to person.

It also helped that the consoles started getting good conversions. Lets be serious I couldn't afford a Neo Geo, PS1 got crap ports, and Saturn bottomed out too early.

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#150 Forza_2
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Hmm...

What do you think about Blackbond's setup? That X-play one.

FrozenLiquid
If you check on the forum I linked you (shoryuken), they don't like it too much. But again, many people in there like to play competitively. If you are not into fighting games all that much, you will most likely be fine with the
X-Arcade one.

For example in this thread where they talk about Happ parts. (The best American parts you can find)

http://forums.shoryuken.com/showthread.


" The Happ FAQ/Information thread.
Happ Joysticks:
Happ makes four models of joysticks that are/were used in fighting game cabinets. Their sticks generally use Cherry-brand microswitches, have a circular range of movement, and have long throws with the microswitches only being activated near the end of the throw. In comparison, Sanwa joysticks have a long throw with sensitive microswitches which makes dashing difficult IMO. Seimitsu joysticks have a short throw with even more sensitive microswitches which is why they are preferred for almost all shmups.

Competition: The Competition is widely considered to be best Happ stick for fighers that is currently in production. It comes in a multiple colors, has a medium spring , and uses a square actuator to hit the microswitches ( picture of base). If you prefer the harder feel of a Super or p360, then you can replace the medium spring with a heavy one that can be purchased from many retailers including Lizard Lick.

Perfect 360: The p360 has the hardest spring of any Happ stick and uses completely silent optical sensors similar to those used in the Sanwa Flash instead of the more common microswitches. It was originally manufactured by Wico as a replacement for their malfunction-prone leaf switch sticks but is now being manufactured by Happ due to Wico's closure. Unfortunately, the switch brought about a number of severe manufacturing/design flaws such as misaligned diodes and messed up washers. It only comes in black and is generally considered to be the best joystick for Marvel vs. Capcom 2.

Super: The Super has a hard spring and uses a circular actuator to hit levered microswitches (picture of base) that make it a **** to hit diagonals. An upside to the Super's "diagonal shortcomings" are that it is excellent (and much better than the competition) for games that only require movement in four directions such as Pac-Man. Like the p360, it also comes in any color you want as long as it is black. The X-arcade and Street Fighter Anniversary joysticks both use **** knock offs of this stick."

The most popular stick is pretty much the Japanese's Sanwa JLF (which is one of the options on arcadeinabox). That Sanwa stick also comes with HRAPs (Hori Real Arcade Pro). The highest quality that you will find is Sanwa and Seimitsu (both from Japan) and Happ. Some prefer American sticks over Japanese ones.

Quick quote from another thread over there:

"Companies:
Sanwa: The largest and most popular Japanese arcade parts manufacturer. Best known for their flagship JLF-TP-8Y joysticks and OBSF/OBSN buttons. You can download their latest catalogue here (courtesty of TheRealNeoGeo and Akihabara Shop):
http://www.akihabarashop.com/catalogs/Sanwa0607.pdf
Seimitsu: The second largest and most popular Japanese arcade parts manufacturer. Best known for their LS-32/LS-32-01 joystick and their PS-14-G/PS-14-GN buttons. You can download their latest catalogue here (courtesy of TheRealNeoGeo):
http://www.akihabarashop.com/catalogs/Seimitsu2006.pdf
Happ: The largest and most popular US arcade parts manufacturer. Best known for their Competition joystick and Competition buttons."

It depends on how much you like fighters.