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#201 Blackbond
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[QUOTE="Blackbond"][QUOTE="froidnite"]

What exactly is the point of this thread?

Isn't this same as making a thread that consoles don't have good RTS, Sim games, TBS games etc.:|

froidnite

You are correct. But there are still a few who would disagree to the point.

I don't think there are people who believe that PC can currently compete directly with consoles in JRPG/Fighting genre.

*Looks over at Adrien Werer and Vandelvideo*

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#202 Blackbond
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I can't imagine playing something like Virtua Fighter on KB/M.

Even with a gamepad, something just won't feel right. :oMoldOnHold

PC supports Arcade sticks. At least mine works on PC.

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#203 MoldOnHold
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[QUOTE="MoldOnHold"][QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="MoldOnHold"]I can't imagine playing something like Virtua Fighter on KB/M.

Even with a gamepad, something just won't feel right. :oVandalvideo
Considering the PC can hook up to a TV, be played from a couch, and use a gamepad, NOTHING will change.

Yes, well, I'm not one of those people who has their PC next to their TV, or have a VGA cable, or have a gamepad for that matter.

I'd rather not go through the hassle and just play it on my consoles.

Its funny you scream hassle, because the ammount of effort is negligble for the return you'd get. OMG five minutes of manual labor. /wrists.

:|

It's not so much as hassle about manual labor, but for going out of my way to buy extra accessories when I can conveniently enjoy it on a console.
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#204 Vandalvideo
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God damn Vandel and here I thought the cows were bad with their crystle ball I can see the future complex but you're being just as bad.Its only a matter of time?JRPGS and Fighters will inevitably make their way to PC? There is nothing you can do to change that? All that translates into is Show me up coming annoucements for releases of JRPGS from Konami, Nippon Icchi, Altus Square and Enix.Show me up coming annoucements for releases of new fighters like SFIV, Soul Calibur 4, Tekken 6 Virtua Fighter 5, Guilty Gear Accent Core, and KOF XI. Hell it doesn't have to be any of those just show me the new Fighters that Namco, Sega, SNK, Sammy, and Capcom have for the ou show me a comprehensive list of the two above and yeah I'll admit ownage like a man.Blackbond
The thing is, you're looking at the short term, and not at the overarching trend thats currently taking place. Capcom is leading the way in this current trend of bringing console friendly genres to the PC. More and more action games are coming to the PC every year, and with the announcement of one of the most covetted console fighters getting an exclusive on the PC, that DOES accoutn for something. It shows that the console developers are taking an interest in the PC. The PC's userbase grows exponentially every year, and coupled with the fact that SO MANY console games are beginning to make their way to the PC, its an innevitability that the same will happen with other genres. (As illustrated by DOA Online). Its going to happen. Its called trends.
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#205 Vandalvideo
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It's not so much as hassle about manual labor, but for going out of my way to buy extra accessories when I can conveniently enjoy it on a console. MoldOnHold
It doesn't take exhorbant ammounts of time to get those accessories. OMG one trip to the store.
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#206 Vandalvideo
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Looks over at Adrien Werer and Vandelvideo*Blackbond
We ARE NOT saying the Pc will compete in these genres. We are saying the PC will soon be COMPETANT in these genres.
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#207 Sir-Marwin105
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[QUOTE="MoldOnHold"]It's not so much as hassle about manual labor, but for going out of my way to buy extra accessories when I can conveniently enjoy it on a console. Vandalvideo
It doesn't take exhorbant ammounts of time to get those accessories. OMG one trip to the store.

You are missing the point. :|
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#208 Vandalvideo
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[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="MoldOnHold"]It's not so much as hassle about manual labor, but for going out of my way to buy extra accessories when I can conveniently enjoy it on a console. Sir-Marwin105
It doesn't take exhorbant ammounts of time to get those accessories. OMG one trip to the store.

You are missing the point. :|

That it takes a negilgble ammount of time to get the PC to achieve the same kind of feel as a console?
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#209 froidnite
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[QUOTE="redneckdouglas"][QUOTE="DementedDragon"]

[QUOTE="Zeliard9"]Emulation, yo.DragonfireXZ95

Illegal yo. :P

Not if you use your own system's BIOs. That's legal. Matter of fact, I play Final Fantasy XII on PC for quicker loading time.

ANNNNND.... PC has the best fighting game. M.U.G.E.N.Has the largest fighter community, including English, Spanish, Portugues, Japanese, Chinese, and some other incoming groups. Deepest customization, and you can download any characters you want.

MUGEN is so cool lol. I saw some clips on youtube where they had Peter Griffin VS Homer Simpson. Homer won I think.

You should check this out :lol:

It's a video of godzilla playing the first mario level

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#210 Meu2k7
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[QUOTE="Meu2k7"][QUOTE="Blackbond"][QUOTE="Meu2k7"][QUOTE="Blackbond"][QUOTE="Meu2k7"][QUOTE="Blackbond"]

Way to much input of peoples preference in this thread. Button line is the PC is weak in upcoming releases of modern day Fighters and JRPG.

I mean anyone can use preference and say they don't like (insert anything) Hey I can say no PC game appeals to me. But even if I said no PC game appealed to me how would that change the fact that the PC has the most AAE and AAAE games? Oh wait it doesn't. So whether you don't like JRPGS or Fighters its not really they point. The PC doens't have an abundance of either on the radar or being released for them and you can't deny that fact.

Blackbond

True, you should of added WRPG to the "Dominent" list aswell though, and Simulation , and TBS and so forth.

I thought about adding WRPG as well Simulation but I'm not too well versed in either genre so I didn't want to post something that I really didn't know a lot about. TBS is turn based strategy correct? Don't games like Phantom Brave, Disgaea, Fire Emblem ect go into TBS?

Hmmm , JTBS? lol , I'm not so sure if you can include games like Fire Eblem, same as "Might and Magics" .. labeled as "Other STrategy" on gamespot.

Hmm so now we have a JTBS and WTBS strategy? Intersting indeed. We find out new things every day don't we 8)

Well the games are listed under Fantasy TBS.

:P . nah I'm sure Fire Emblem is considered an RPGs, if not its definatly in whatever category FF Tactics and "Heroes of Might and Magic" are in.

TBS is like Civilizations, Gal Civ, Total Wars ect.

Fire Emblem is in the exact same catagory that Final Fantasy Tatics is in :|

Just curious but have you played both?

  1. Disgaea
  2. Phantom Brave
  3. Tactics Ogre
  4. Final Fantasy Tactics
  5. Shining Force
  6. Fire Emblem

These games are all in the same genre.

Yes, but they are not TBS .... they are RPGs ...

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#211 froidnite
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[QUOTE="froidnite"][QUOTE="Blackbond"][QUOTE="froidnite"]

What exactly is the point of this thread?

Isn't this same as making a thread that consoles don't have good RTS, Sim games, TBS games etc.:|

Blackbond

You are correct. But there are still a few who would disagree to the point.

I don't think there are people who believe that PC can currently compete directly with consoles in JRPG/Fighting genre.

*Looks over at Adrien Werer and Vandelvideo*

You are missing the point;)
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#212 Blackbond
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[QUOTE="Blackbond"]God damn Vandel and here I thought the cows were bad with their crystle ball I can see the future complex but you're being just as bad.Its only a matter of time?JRPGS and Fighters will inevitably make their way to PC? There is nothing you can do to change that? All that translates into is Show me up coming annoucements for releases of JRPGS from Konami, Nippon Icchi, Altus Square and Enix.Show me up coming annoucements for releases of new fighters like SFIV, Soul Calibur 4, Tekken 6 Virtua Fighter 5, Guilty Gear Accent Core, and KOF XI. Hell it doesn't have to be any of those just show me the new Fighters that Namco, Sega, SNK, Sammy, and Capcom have for the ou show me a comprehensive list of the two above and yeah I'll admit ownage like a man.Vandalvideo

The thing is, you're looking at the short term, and not at the overarching trend thats currently taking place. Capcom is leading the way in this current trend of bringing console friendly genres to the PC. More and more action games are coming to the PC every year, and with the announcement of one of the most covetted console fighters getting an exclusive on the PC, that DOES accoutn for something. It shows that the console developers are taking an interest in the PC. The PC's userbase grows exponentially every year, and coupled with the fact that SO MANY console games are beginning to make their way to the PC, its an innevitability that the same will happen with other genres. (As illustrated by DOA Online). Its going to happen. Its called trends.

*Please type in paragraphs man*

Capcom is leading the way in bringing console friendly genres to PC yet they are not bringing SFIV nor their Samurai Fighter to PC. Nor Street Fighter II HD.

Unless its DOA5 the new DOA for PC won't be exclusive. It will be another Ninja Gaiden Sigma Team Ninja effort. PC gamers are getting more console games but you still failed to give me and releases of Fighters or JRPGS other then DOA Online which the Xbox and 360 already have.

I'm waiting Vandel. Show me a comprehensive list of upcoming releases of FIGHTERS and JRPGS for PC. I don't want to hear about your wait and see crap. Cause while your waiting for something that you don't know for sure that will happen I will be playing these games.

Show me the release/annoucement lists or forever hold your peace. You have to debate with facts you aren't doing anything but looking at speculation and hope towards the future.

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[QUOTE="MoldOnHold"]Furthermore, consoles have the racing and platforming genres - two of my favorites, down pat.Vandalvideo
As do PCs, in bulk actually. The PC was leading in racers until very recently.

Really? Mind naming a few?

Gamespot's PC racing page is brimming with a crapload of Need for Speed titles (several of them with the "best" tag next to the Xbox 360 version). I see a few games dating back to 2000. Forza, PGR, and Burnout challenge you.
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#214 agentfred
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[QUOTE="Blackbond"]

Fire Emblem is in the exact same catagory that Final Fantasy Tatics is in :|

Just curious but have you played both?

  1. Disgaea
  2. Phantom Brave
  3. Tactics Ogre
  4. Final Fantasy Tactics
  5. Shining Force
  6. Fire Emblem

These games are all in the same genre.

Meu2k7

Yes, but they are not TBS .... they are RPGs ...

The genre is called SRPG if you guys didn't know, and they are neither RTS's nor are they 4x's. There is a very large difference really.

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#215 Vandalvideo
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Please type in paragraphs man*Capcom is leading the way in bringing console friendly genres to PC yet they are not bringing SFIV nor their Samurai Fighter to PC. Nor Street Fighter II HD.Unless its DOA5 the new DOA for PC won't be exclusive. It will be another Ninja Gaiden Sigma Team Ninja effort. PC gamers are getting more console games but you still failed to give me and releases of Fighters or JRPGS other then DOA Online which the Xbox and 360 already have.I'm waiting Vandel. Show me a comprehensive list of upcoming releases of FIGHTERS and JRPGS for PC. I don't want to hear about your wait and see crap. Cause while your waiting for something that you don't know for sure that will happen I will be playing these games.Show me the release/annoucement lists or forever hold your peace. You have to debate with facts you aren't doing anything but looking at speculation and hope towards the future.Blackbond
You don't understand do you? I don't HAVE t o give you examples for my arguement to be valid, its entirely based aroudn logos. Its a self-substantiating arguement based on past trends. I don't want to sit here and teach you Logic 101. The current trend in the industry is that more and more companies are beginning to bring console style genres to the PC. This trend is illustrated by THE EXCLUSIVE, i reitterate, EXCLUSIVE DOA title that is coming to the PC. This is proof in concept of what I'm saying, that more and more companies are signing on to the idea of releasing console side genrse on the PC. What the logic shows, is that its an inevitability that more console side genres will invariablly make their way to the PC. Its going to happen, and the trends show that.
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#216 Blackbond
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[QUOTE="Blackbond"]Looks over at Adrien Werer and Vandelvideo*Vandalvideo
We ARE NOT saying the Pc will compete in these genres. We are saying the PC will soon be COMPETANT in these genres.

No Adrien Werner already said the PC dominates anything for Fighters. *INCLUDING THE ARCADE!* lol

As for you when will the become competant. I'm still waiting for you to give me an exact time frame. Come on man when are these devs coming out with these games?

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#217 Vandalvideo
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[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="MoldOnHold"]Furthermore, consoles have the racing and platforming genres - two of my favorites, down pat.MoldOnHold
As do PCs, in bulk actually. The PC was leading in racers until very recently.

Really? Mind naming a few?

Gamespot's PC racing page is brimming with a crapload of Need for Speed titles (several of them with the "best" tag next to the Xbox 360 version). I see a few games dating back to 2000. Forza, PGR, and Burnout challenge you.

The highest rated next gen racing title, and ONLY AAA next gen racing title was solely on the PC for the first year or so of the next generation, that is GTR2. There is a fairly substantial ammount of racers on the PC, most of which are AA games, and with the PC's higher standards, many of those games can directly compete with Forza, PGR, and the ilk.
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#218 Vandalvideo
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[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="Blackbond"]Looks over at Adrien Werer and Vandelvideo*Blackbond

We ARE NOT saying the Pc will compete in these genres. We are saying the PC will soon be COMPETANT in these genres.

No Adrien Werner already said the PC dominates anything for Fighters. *INCLUDING THE ARCADE!* lol

As for you when will the become competant. I'm still waiting for you to give me an exact time frame. Come on man when are these devs coming out with these games?

I don't have a crystal ball for WHEN the trend will produce itself for other genres, but the current trend does indicate that it will invariablly happen.
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#219 Blackbond
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[QUOTE="Blackbond"]Please type in paragraphs man*Capcom is leading the way in bringing console friendly genres to PC yet they are not bringing SFIV nor their Samurai Fighter to PC. Nor Street Fighter II HD.Unless its DOA5 the new DOA for PC won't be exclusive. It will be another Ninja Gaiden Sigma Team Ninja effort. PC gamers are getting more console games but you still failed to give me and releases of Fighters or JRPGS other then DOA Online which the Xbox and 360 already have.I'm waiting Vandel. Show me a comprehensive list of upcoming releases of FIGHTERS and JRPGS for PC. I don't want to hear about your wait and see crap. Cause while your waiting for something that you don't know for sure that will happen I will be playing these games.Show me the release/annoucement lists or forever hold your peace. You have to debate with facts you aren't doing anything but looking at speculation and hope towards the future.Vandalvideo

You don't understand do you? I don't HAVE t o give you examples for my arguement to be valid, its entirely based aroudn logos. Its a self-substantiating arguement based on past trends. I don't want to sit here and teach you Logic 101. The current trend in the industry is that more and more companies are beginning to bring console ****genres to the PC. This trend is illustrated by THE EXCLUSIVE, i reitterate, EXCLUSIVE DOA title that is coming to the PC. This is proof in concept of what I'm saying, that more and more companies are signing on to the idea of releasing console side genrse on the PC. What the logic shows, is that its an inevitability that more console side genres will invariablly make their way to the PC. Its going to happen, and the trends show that.

Then give proof of annoucements/release dates. You don't have to give examples you have to give EVIDENCE. Everything is inevitable given enough time man. I mean there is that thing called death. So will I have to wait 5 years, 10 years, 20 years, how long will I have to wait for PC to become competant in JRPGS and FIGHTERS.

Give me evidence of your claim. Show me the release dates/annoucements of the games in these genre's? These games just aren't going to magically appear on PC over night by some creation of a mystical Hermit.

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[QUOTE="Sir-Marwin105"][QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="MoldOnHold"]It's not so much as hassle about manual labor, but for going out of my way to buy extra accessories when I can conveniently enjoy it on a console. Vandalvideo
It doesn't take exhorbant ammounts of time to get those accessories. OMG one trip to the store.

You are missing the point. :|

That it takes a negilgble ammount of time to get the PC to achieve the same kind of feel as a console?

Yes you are missing the point. Consider this:

Person "A" has game system "X" which he bought for around $400. It contains a headset, wireless gamepad, and component cables. He also has a mid-spec PC which was bought for $700. It does not contain a headset, wireless gamepad, or component cables.

Do you honestly think that it's better for "A" to go out of his way to buy extra accessories for his PC if he already has everything he needs on system "X"?
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Then give proof of annoucements/release dates. You don't have to give examples you have to give EVIDENCE. Everything is inevitable given enough time man. I mean there is that thing called death. So will I have to wait 5 years, 10 years, 20 years, how long will I have to wait for PC to become competant in JRPGS and FIGHTERS.Give me evidence of your claim. Show me the release dates/annoucements of the games in these genre's? These games just aren't going to magically appear on PC over night by some creation of a mystical Hermit.Blackbond
You demanding proof clearly illustrates that you don't understand how my arguement works. Its entirely self-substantiating, as I already explained. What do you not comprehend about there being a trend at present of a large number of traditionally console titles making their way to PCs, as illustrated by Capcom leading the torch, and the exclusive DOA title. I can't give an exact date, thats not how this type of arguement works. If the current trend withstands, we WILL inevitablly see more and more JRPGs and Fighters on the PC, its going to happen.
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Yes you are missing the point. Consider this:Person "A" has game system "X" which he bought for around $400. It contains a headset, wireless gamepad, and component cables. He also has a mid-spec PC which was bought for $700. It does not contain a headset, wireless gamepad, or component cables.Do you honestly think that it's better for "A" to go out of his way to buy extra accessories for his PC if he already has everything he needs on system "X"? MoldOnHold
If person A realizes that he wants the better experience of the two, and that he always complains about the PC being at his desk, and wants to have the same experience, then yes he will.
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#223 froidnite
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Capcom is leading the way in bringing console friendly genres to PC yet they are not bringing SFIV to PC

Blackbond

Could you give us a link to back up that claim:roll:

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[QUOTE="MoldOnHold"][QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="MoldOnHold"]Furthermore, consoles have the racing and platforming genres - two of my favorites, down pat.Vandalvideo
As do PCs, in bulk actually. The PC was leading in racers until very recently.

Really? Mind naming a few?

Gamespot's PC racing page is brimming with a crapload of Need for Speed titles (several of them with the "best" tag next to the Xbox 360 version). I see a few games dating back to 2000. Forza, PGR, and Burnout challenge you.

The highest rated next gen racing title, and ONLY AAA next gen racing title was solely on the PC for the first year or so of the next generation, that is GTR2. There is a fairly substantial ammount of racers on the PC, most of which are AA games, and with the PC's higher standards, many of those games can directly compete with Forza, PGR, and the ilk.

You did not even answer the question.

Yes, GTR 2 is a great racing game, and it's a AAAE. Great. It has a number of AAs. Great.

Well, the Xbox 360, for example, also has itself a AAAE, and has a number of AAs. And how long has the system been out? 2 years?
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#225 Blackbond
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[QUOTE="Blackbond"]

[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="Blackbond"]Looks over at Adrien Werer and Vandelvideo*Vandalvideo

We ARE NOT saying the Pc will compete in these genres. We are saying the PC will soon be COMPETANT in these genres.

No Adrien Werner already said the PC dominates anything for Fighters. *INCLUDING THE ARCADE!* lol

As for you when will the become competant. I'm still waiting for you to give me an exact time frame. Come on man when are these devs coming out with these games?

I don't have a crystal ball for WHEN the trend will produce itself for other genres, but the current trend does indicate that it will invariablly happen.

  1. So why does the current trend have Capcom not giving PC Street Fighter II HD, Street Fighter IV, and Their new Samurai Fighter.
  2. Why does the current trend have Sammy not giving out Guilty Gear Accent Core on PC when previous Guilty Gears were?
  3. Why isn't SNK-PLAYMORE releasing KOF XI alongside PC?
  4. Why isn't Namco releasing Tekken 6 and Soul Calibur IV on PC?
  5. Why did Sega previously release Virtua Fighter on PC but now they aren't releasing Virtua Fighter 5 on PC?

Answer me Vandal I mean the trends clearly show the Fighters are coming to PC as you say?

Why are Nippon Ichi releasing their games on PC where are their annoucements?
Where is Suikoden from Konami?

Why aren't their Square Enix titles besides MMORPG's being annouced for PC?

Tell me Vandel? Is this the trend you speak of?

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So why does the current trend have Capcom not giving PC Street Fighter II HD, Street Fighter IV, and Their new Samurai Fighter.hy does the current trend have Sammy not giving out Guilty Gear Accent Core on PC when previous Guilty Gears were?Why isn't SNK-PLAYMORE releasing KOF XI alongside PC?Why isn't Namco releasing Tekken 6 and Soul Calibur IV on PC?Why did Sega previously release Virtua Fighter on PC but now they aren't releasing Virtua Fighter 5 on PCAnswer me Vandal I mean the trends clearly show the Fighters are coming to PC as you say?Why are Nippon Ichi releasing their games on PC where are their annoucements?Where is Suikoden from Konami?Why aren't their Square Enix titles besides MMORPG's being annouced for PC? Tell me Vandel? Is this the trend you speak of?Blackbond
With SFIV recently announced, you can't possibly expect them to announce a PC version right after the fact, better yet, provide proof that they have NO intention to bring it to the PC, thats right there is no. Fact of the matter is that there is a trend that exists right now that more and more console games are making their way to the PC. There is no denying this no matter how hard you try. If this trend keeps up, these games will invariablly make their way to the PC, its an inevitability. You don't seem to understand that. It doesn't matter if these titles are annoucned for the PC right now or not, for all you know, a port could be annuonced in the near future. The current trend stipulates that more and more console games are making there way to PCs, and that is an undeniable fact.
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#228 Blackbond
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[QUOTE="Blackbond"]

Capcom is leading the way in bringing console friendly genres to PC yet they are not bringing SFIV to PC

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Could you give us a link to back up that claim:roll:

I'm gonna have to retract this statement as IGN's Capcom list *the list where I saw it* has it moved from 360/PS3 TBA to

Platforms = TBA.

So saying SFIV is coming to any platform is irrelevant and cannot be proven as no offical annoucements have been put in stone. Regardless of how likely a console release is, a fact isn't a fact until there is evidence.

All mentions of SFIV going to any platform besides ARCADE I offically retract and accept the reprocussions for claiming something without the proper evidence to support the claim.

In other words *self-ownage* on me :lol:

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You did not even answer the question.Yes, GTR 2 is a great racing game, and it's a AAAE. Great. It has a number of AAs. Great. Well, the Xbox 360, for example, also has itself a AAAE, and has a number of AAs. And how long has the system been out? 2 years? MoldOnHold
The 360 didn't get its first AAA racing game well into the second year of the console span. GTR2 had been out since late 2006. The PC had been leading well into 2007 for racers, and right now, if anything, they are tied for racers. The PC isn't at a loss for racers or platformers, racers more so than the latter.
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[QUOTE="MoldOnHold"]Yes you are missing the point. Consider this:Person "A" has game system "X" which he bought for around $400. It contains a headset, wireless gamepad, and component cables. He also has a mid-spec PC which was bought for $700. It does not contain a headset, wireless gamepad, or component cables.Do you honestly think that it's better for "A" to go out of his way to buy extra accessories for his PC if he already has everything he needs on system "X"? Vandalvideo
If person A realizes that he wants the better experience of the two, and that he always complains about the PC being at his desk, and wants to have the same experience, then yes he will.

Your argument is solely an opinion (an easily debatable one at that).

My argument is based on facts (expenses).

Furthermore, even if there is some game that is better on the PC than the 360, this neglible advantage won't be worth the money in person A's case.
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#231 Blackbond
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[QUOTE="Blackbond"]Then give proof of annoucements/release dates. You don't have to give examples you have to give EVIDENCE. Everything is inevitable given enough time man. I mean there is that thing called death. So will I have to wait 5 years, 10 years, 20 years, how long will I have to wait for PC to become competant in JRPGS and FIGHTERS.Give me evidence of your claim. Show me the release dates/annoucements of the games in these genre's? These games just aren't going to magically appear on PC over night by some creation of a mystical Hermit.Vandalvideo
You demanding proof clearly illustrates that you don't understand how my arguement works. Its entirely self-substantiating, as I already explained. What do you not comprehend about there being a trend at present of a large number of traditionally console titles making their way to PCs, as illustrated by Capcom leading the torch, and the exclusive DOA title. I can't give an exact date, thats not how this type of arguement works. If the current trend withstands, we WILL inevitablly see more and more JRPGs and Fighters on the PC, its going to happen.

No arguement works without proof man. You don't have proof then you don't have anything. Show me game annoucenments of fighters for PC. That's all you need to do man. If you don't have proof you have nothing.

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[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="MoldOnHold"]Yes you are missing the point. Consider this:Person "A" has game system "X" which he bought for around $400. It contains a headset, wireless gamepad, and component cables. He also has a mid-spec PC which was bought for $700. It does not contain a headset, wireless gamepad, or component cables.Do you honestly think that it's better for "A" to go out of his way to buy extra accessories for his PC if he already has everything he needs on system "X"? MoldOnHold
If person A realizes that he wants the better experience of the two, and that he always complains about the PC being at his desk, and wants to have the same experience, then yes he will.

Your argument is solely an opinion (an easily debatable one at that).

My argument is based on facts (expenses).

Furthermore, even if there is some game that is better on the PC than the 360, this neglible advantage won't be worth the money in person A's case.

Actually, the PC iconsequentially has better sound, graphics, and extended play time thanks to mods. The PC version is invariablly better. These are facts.
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[QUOTE="Blackbond"]So why does the current trend have Capcom not giving PC Street Fighter II HD, Street Fighter IV, and Their new Samurai Fighter.hy does the current trend have Sammy not giving out Guilty Gear Accent Core on PC when previous Guilty Gears were?Why isn't SNK-PLAYMORE releasing KOF XI alongside PC?Why isn't Namco releasing Tekken 6 and Soul Calibur IV on PC?Why did Sega previously release Virtua Fighter on PC but now they aren't releasing Virtua Fighter 5 on PCAnswer me Vandal I mean the trends clearly show the Fighters are coming to PC as you say?Why are Nippon Ichi releasing their games on PC where are their annoucements?Where is Suikoden from Konami?Why aren't their Square Enix titles besides MMORPG's being annouced for PC? Tell me Vandel? Is this the trend you speak of?Vandalvideo
With SFIV recently announced, you can't possibly expect them to announce a PC version right after the fact, better yet, provide proof that they have NO intention to bring it to the PC, thats right there is no. Fact of the matter is that there is a trend that exists right now that more and more console games are making their way to the PC. There is no denying this no matter how hard you try. If this trend keeps up, these games will invariablly make their way to the PC, its an inevitability. You don't seem to understand that. It doesn't matter if these titles are annoucned for the PC right now or not, for all you know, a port could be annuonced in the near future. The current trend stipulates that more and more console games are making there way to PCs, and that is an undeniable fact.

If only we lived in a world where "Coulds" "Shoulds" and "What If's" where all facts. The world COULD end tomorrow from an asteroid from outer space. Doesn't mean its 100% going to happen. Hell I could say anything COULDhappen. Come on with those facts already.

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#234 Vandalvideo
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No arguement works without proof man. You don't have proof then you don't have anything. Show me game annoucenments of fighters for PC. That's all you need to do man. If you don't have proof you have nothing.Blackbond
You don't understand, the EXCLUSIVE doa title is proof of concept behind the trend that is currently taking place in gaming. So is Lost Planet, Assassin's Creed, Beowulf, etc. There are TONS and TONS of action adventure games, traditionally console style genres, making their way to PCs. It shows that companies are taking an interest in PC gaming, and if the current trend keeps up, you can see more and more games making there way to the PC. My arguement IS proof in concept.
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If only we lived in a world where "Coulds" "Shoulds" and "What If's" where all facts. The world end tomorrow from an asteroid from outer space. Doesn't mean its 100% going to happen. Hell I could say anything happen. Come on with those facts already.Blackbond
However, the current trend in gaming DOES show that it is highly probably that it WILL happen.
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#236 MoldOnHold
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The 360 didn't get its first AAA racing game well into the second year of the console span.Vandalvideo
So what? It had a number of AAs before then.
GTR2 had been out since late 2006. The PC had been leading well into 2007 for racers, and right now, if anything, they are tied for racers. The PC isn't at a loss for racers or platformers, racers more so than the latter.Vandalvideo
Once again, you do not give me examples to back up your claims....
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[QUOTE="Blackbond"]No arguement works without proof man. You don't have proof then you don't have anything. Show me game annoucenments of fighters for PC. That's all you need to do man. If you don't have proof you have nothing.Vandalvideo
You don't understand, the EXCLUSIVE doa title is proof of concept behind the trend that is currently taking place in gaming. So is Lost Planet, Assassin's Creed, Beowulf, etc. There are TONS and TONS of action adventure games, traditionally console style genres, making their way to PCs. It shows that companies are taking an interest in PC gaming, and if the current trend keeps up, you can see more and more games making there way to the PC. My arguement IS proof in concept.

One game coming to PC when about 10 others are left out of PC. I see your a guy who looks at the cup is 1/10 full kinda view. I'm heading to work we can resume this in a bit. This thread isn't about anything other then JRPGS and FIGHTERS. I don't understand why you are bringing other genres into the mix. Having an influx of other console genres has not increased the amount of JRPGS or FIGHTERS by any significant margin.

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#238 Vandalvideo
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[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"] The 360 didn't get its first AAA racing game well into the second year of the console span.MoldOnHold
So what? It had a number of AAs before then.
GTR2 had been out since late 2006. The PC had been leading well into 2007 for racers, and right now, if anything, they are tied for racers. The PC isn't at a loss for racers or platformers, racers more so than the latter.Vandalvideo
Once again, you do not give me examples to back up your claims....

GTR2 is proof of my statements that the PC was infact leading in racers well into the first quarter of 07. It had the ONLY next gen AAA racing title. Endo f story.
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#239 Vandalvideo
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[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="Blackbond"]No arguement works without proof man. You don't have proof then you don't have anything. Show me game annoucenments of fighters for PC. That's all you need to do man. If you don't have proof you have nothing.Blackbond

You don't understand, the EXCLUSIVE doa title is proof of concept behind the trend that is currently taking place in gaming. So is Lost Planet, Assassin's Creed, Beowulf, etc. There are TONS and TONS of action adventure games, traditionally console style genres, making their way to PCs. It shows that companies are taking an interest in PC gaming, and if the current trend keeps up, you can see more and more games making there way to the PC. My arguement IS proof in concept.

One game coming to PC when about 10 others are left out of PC. I see your a guy who looks at the cup is 1/10 full kinda view. I'm heading to work we can resume this in a bit. This thread isn't about anything other then JRPGS and FIGHTERS. I don't understand why you are bringing other genres into the mix. Having an influx of other console genres has not increased the amount of JRPGS or FIGHTERS by any significant margin.

Because these "other games" are proof in concept behind what I'm saying, that more and more console style genres are making their way to the PC.
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Actually, the PC iconsequentially has better sound, graphics, and extended play time thanks to mods. The PC version is invariablly better. These are facts. Vandalvideo
:|

Even you know that sound and graphics depend on the specs of your system. And also take into account person A's TV.

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[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="MoldOnHold"]Yes you are missing the point. Consider this:Person "A" has game system "X" which he bought for around $400. It contains a headset, wireless gamepad, and component cables. He also has a mid-spec PC which was bought for $700. It does not contain a headset, wireless gamepad, or component cables.Do you honestly think that it's better for "A" to go out of his way to buy extra accessories for his PC if he already has everything he needs on system "X"? MoldOnHold
If person A realizes that he wants the better experience of the two, and that he always complains about the PC being at his desk, and wants to have the same experience, then yes he will.

Your argument is solely an opinion (an easily debatable one at that).

My argument is based on facts (expenses).

Furthermore, even if there is some game that is better on the PC than the 360, this neglible advantage won't be worth the money in person A's case.

Your argument doesn't prove anything.....It's a hypothetical question.....I can play this game too.

A person "A" has a computer that is capable of playing all new games but doesn't own any console. But he wants to get that console feel for a few of his games. Would he buy a 400$ console "X" just for that. Or would he just buy a headset, wireless gamepad, or component cables. Do you honestly think that it's better for person "A" to go out of his way to buy the extra gaming system if he can have everything he needs on his PC?

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I don't play fighters or JRPGs but I still like my 360, is there a fault :?
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[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"]
Actually, the PC iconsequentially has better sound, graphics, and extended play time thanks to mods. The PC version is invariablly better. These are facts. MoldOnHold

:|

Even you know that sound and graphics depend on the specs of your system. And also take into account person A's TV.

Your point? The PC "VERSION" is independant of the actual hardware. No matter what hardware you have, the "VERSION" of the game will invariablly be better no matter what.
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The point of the matter is your argument isn't really a argument.. Its a matter of taste that you prefer a genre that is on the console... It certainly is not a weakness.. How can you say a apple has the weakness of not being sour/acidic like the orange? Its a bogus comparison and just a matter of taste.. I am not saying one is better then the other, but you certainlly can't see it as a weakness.
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[QUOTE="Blackbond"]If only we lived in a world where "Coulds" "Shoulds" and "What If's" where all facts. The world end tomorrow from an asteroid from outer space. Doesn't mean its 100% going to happen. Hell I could say anything happen. Come on with those facts already.Vandalvideo
However, the current trend in gaming DOES show that it is highly probably that it WILL happen.

More speculation yawn.

See I love how you say but but teh PC is getting an exclusive DOA Online.

But then you completely discredit that it isn't getting....

  1. KOF XI
  2. Virtua Fighter 5
  3. Soul Calibur 4
  4. Tekken 6
  5. Guilty Gear Accent Core
  6. Capcoms Samurai Fighter
  7. ect

You praise the one game you're getting but don't look at all the games you aren't getting. What does the trend show you when you are getting one game compared to all the ones that are being released? Please tell me I must no :|

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The point of the matter is your argument isn't really a argument.. Its a matter of taste that you prefer a genre that is on the console... It certainly is not a weakness.. How can you say a apple has the weakness of not being sour/acidic like the orange? Its a bogus comparison and just a matter of taste.. I am not saying one is better then the other, but you certainlly can't see it as a weakness.sSubZerOo

Get that weak ass analogy out of here. PC not having JRPGS and FIGHTERS is like CONSOLES not getting MMORPGs, Simulations, and RTS. Deal with the facts man. Your preference is nothing but opinion.

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#247 Vandalvideo
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[QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="Blackbond"]If only we lived in a world where "Coulds" "Shoulds" and "What If's" where all facts. The world end tomorrow from an asteroid from outer space. Doesn't mean its 100% going to happen. Hell I could say anything happen. Come on with those facts already.Blackbond

However, the current trend in gaming DOES show that it is highly probably that it WILL happen.

More speculation yawn.

See I love how you say but but teh PC is getting an exclusive DOA Online.

But then you completely discredit that it isn't getting....

  1. KOF XI
  2. Virtua Fighter 5
  3. Soul Calibur 4
  4. Tekken 6
  5. Guilty Gear Accent Core
  6. Capcoms Samurai Fighter
  7. ect

You praise the one game you're getting but don't look at all the games you aren't getting. What does the trend show you when you are getting one game compared to all the ones that are being released? Please tell me I must no :|

Except that you have ABSOLUTELY NO proof that stipulates the PC will not be getting said titles. A port is currently not announced, but the current trend does hsow that the probability these games will make it to the PC is very high.
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#248 Vandalvideo
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[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"] The point of the matter is your argument isn't really a argument.. Its a matter of taste that you prefer a genre that is on the console... It certainly is not a weakness.. How can you say a apple has the weakness of not being sour/acidic like the orange? Its a bogus comparison and just a matter of taste.. I am not saying one is better then the other, but you certainlly can't see it as a weakness.Blackbond

Get that weak ass analogy out of here. PC not having JRPGS and FIGHTERS is like CONSOLES not getting MMORPGs, Simulations, and RTS. Deal with the facts man. Your preference is nothing but opinion.

Your arguement is all about taste dude. Its not really a factual agruement about the PC. OMG you like JRPGs and Fighters. thats nice, the PC has twice as many districnt genres in simulation styled games.
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[QUOTE="MoldOnHold"][QUOTE="Vandalvideo"][QUOTE="MoldOnHold"]Yes you are missing the point. Consider this:Person "A" has game system "X" which he bought for around $400. It contains a headset, wireless gamepad, and component cables. He also has a mid-spec PC which was bought for $700. It does not contain a headset, wireless gamepad, or component cables.Do you honestly think that it's better for "A" to go out of his way to buy extra accessories for his PC if he already has everything he needs on system "X"? froidnite

If person A realizes that he wants the better experience of the two, and that he always complains about the PC being at his desk, and wants to have the same experience, then yes he will.

Your argument is solely an opinion (an easily debatable one at that).

My argument is based on facts (expenses).

Furthermore, even if there is some game that is better on the PC than the 360, this neglible advantage won't be worth the money in person A's case.

Your argument doesn't prove anything.....It's a hypothetical question.....I can play this game too.

A person "A" has a computer that is capable of playing all new games but doesn't own any console. But he wants to get that console feel for a few of his games. Would he buy a 400$ console "X" just for that. Or would he just buy a headset, wireless gamepad, or component cables. Do you honestly think that it's better for person "A" to go out of his way to buy the extra gaming system if he can have everything he needs on his PC?

No one would buy a new console to get a different "feel" for a game, regardless of accessories.

Similarly, no one would buy a new gaming PC for a different "feel" for a game.

My argument applies to people who own both and are debating which version of the game would be best for them (taking into account any additional accessories).
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#250 froidnite
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[QUOTE="sSubZerOo"] The point of the matter is your argument isn't really a argument.. Its a matter of taste that you prefer a genre that is on the console... It certainly is not a weakness.. How can you say a apple has the weakness of not being sour/acidic like the orange? Its a bogus comparison and just a matter of taste.. I am not saying one is better then the other, but you certainlly can't see it as a weakness.Blackbond

Get that weak ass analogy out of here. PC not having JRPGS and FIGHTERS is like CONSOLES not getting MMORPGs, Simulations, and RTS. Deal with the facts man. Your preference is nothing but opinion.

How exactly is it a weakness that PC is dominating in more genres than any console if personal tastes aren't to be mentioned:roll: