[QUOTE="bamafan3414"][QUOTE="NemesisLives"]

Ya, if your friends can get you the stuff free.

And please dont say "Yall"

NemesisLives

Learn to take a joke.

And just so you know "the south" isn't a race...

lmao!

For some people it is.. :P

Dude...get a grip. Different people have different ways of solving problems. Some are saavy enough to solve their own, others like to talk to those who know.

If help topics annoy you...DONT CLICK THEM! If you were as "smart" as you seem to think you are, this would have been obvious...

dnuggs40

lol my sentiments exactly Dnuggs! ;)

[QUOTE="Pittfan666"]Your 30 you should realize that life isn't fair in this world. Jack_Summersby

Of course I know that life isn't inherently fair. That's why we, the human race, have developed laws and contracts - to increase justice. GSC has violated the customer-merchant contract - it's not a matter of being "fair", it's a matter of violating a contractual obligation.

If at the end of the week your boss comes to you and says, "You're fired, and we're not paying you for this week", you don't say, "OK. Life's not fair.", you say, "Then I'll see you in court."

Besides, most of the people say that the game runs fine on their system,Pittfan666

The poll clearly supports you - over half - 60%, to be exact - of the voters did not have major problems. But 27% have had enough issues to boycott Clear Sky if GSC doesn't live up to its duty to its customers.

and from what I've been reading you'd best get over your anger towards the 50 bucks you paid for the game. You should of realized that the game was buggy and didn't work within the return period of the receipt and taken it back.Pittfan666

Ummmm... you can't return opened software at any store I've ever purchased from, unless you exchange it for the exact same title.

So you wasted $50 bucks big woopie, you didn't see mehere complainingand breaking thetos whenever my belovedStarShipTroopers game was basically a glitchfest and poorly developed fps.Pittfan666

$50 may not be much to you, but I am a poor medical student and it IS a lot of money to me.

Plus, you're missing the principle of the matter - GSC COULD fix the bugs in STALKER, but they are too busy working on its prequel to bother. STALKER has been out for MONTHS, and the majority of major bugs have not been patched. That's immoral.

Actually with the Code of Hammurabi.. you could say laws and rules were instituted to "control the masses".. but that would make me more of an anarchist.. (which I'm not.. since it doesn't make much sense)

The Illuminati do exist, and the focal point in their grand scheme to take over the world is... sneaking propoganda into video games? Man, conspiracy theories have really gone downhill lately.

Ooh, I've got one! The Knight's Templar has been secretly printing subliminal messages in game manuals, telling gamers to ignore the fact that there are PDF manuals available! Gamers continue demanding manuals, keeping paper costs up and therefore keeping the Paper Plutocracy in Power!

Here, I've got something that doesn't add up in your theory: If these "elites" are planting pro-American propoganda in games, and propoganda is most effective when one is exposed to it at an early age, why is there so much pressure from the American government (which you claimis also controlled by the "elites") to keep these very games out of the hands of children? Wouldn't that mean that these "elites" are actively working against themselves? isn't that just a wee bit counter-intuitive?

Mediocre_man90

The All Seeing Eye is on the back of the 1$ bill...

Of course if I were to analyse the Golden Dawn.. I would basically could say that the US was founded by Gnostic psuedo-christians..with a bent on rabbinic judaism.. of course, Aliester Crowley as well as William B Yeats were members of the Golden Dawn.. Crowley being blacklabled as being "satanic" and writing the occultish book "The book of Lies". and Yeats.. well if you read A Vision.. you will see astrology is heavily used and used to predict the future through math.. this basically is like the movie Pi.. which I loved.. but nevertheless most people would never watch that sort of thing and enjoy it..

I think I will go reread a few gnostic texts.. and curse Constantine..

Games, like any other medium, are a conduit for reflecting topical concerns and the perceptions of people in current times. During World War 2 the Germanswere perceived by many as 'the bad guys', so it was hardly surprising that books, movies and now games cast them in that light in media centred around World War 2. Fast forward to current times and the news is full of references to troubles in the Middle East (including Iraq and Afghanistan), and problems regarding North Korea.

Just as movies were made during World War II with people fighting the Nazis...now games are produced where we fight perceived modern enemies. In a way they could be viewed as mild propaganda, but only insofar as they point the finger at a particular nation or group of people and label them as 'bad guys'. If the people playing the games only have two brain cells to rub together and choose toignore the wider context of current conflicts and tensions around the globe, and simply accept what is portrayed in a game (or any other entertainment medium) as fact, then they are obviously incredibly misguided.

I view games as entertainment, but I can understand some of the concerns of certain games being perceived as a form of propaganda, even if they have not been deliberately produced as propaganda vehicles. I've seen some pretty ignorant posts made about games like Call Of Duty 4 where people think it's based on fact and they want to "...play the Marines to kick terrorist ass" etc. The nature of some of those posts indicate at least some of these people have difficultyseparating a game from reality, and are either unwilling or unable to view a game purely as entertainment. In a way, you could argue that some gamers themselves are trying to turn games into their own form of propaganda to fuel misguided notions (based on game content), thus exhibiting a rather insular and prejudiced view of the world and its affairs.

By the same token we've seen various ethnic groups, and nations such as North Korea decrying their depictions in video games, and holding them up as perceived propaganda vehicles of 'The West'. The simple fact is that anything can be twisted and spun so that it is cast in a negative light - just as violent video games have become the whipping boy of popular press and misguided politicians.If they were to be believed then games are the root of all evil in society today. That obviously is not the case, because people have been killing other people for time immemorial. It's the nature of the beast within us all.

So yes, games can be used in terms of propaganda from both sides, but usually only by people outside of the game development process to meet their own skewed view of the world.

RobertBowen

I love small fonts! They make my head feel funny!

I think its mainly the military thats trying to capitalize on the success of videogames. Some of those Army and Marine commercials try to make becoming a real soldier look fun like a videogame. I remember a commercial about 10 years ago that had a monster in it just like the Quake demo. This commercial is totally obvious about trying to get gamers to join http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8AaOhyvpE1ECranler

Marine Doom was more fun.

Hippe: we want to go up north to canada... the war...

Teal'C: The war with Canada?

Hippe: Far out!....HostileEffect

No, we are not going to use the Stargate to travel back to 1969.

Don't make me remove your primta.. shova!

As for the OP/TC I wouldn't mind a video game playing me as Ghandi with an uzi blowing away Brits and dancing on their graves; reminiscent of the movie UHF.

Bring it on I say! The more sensational the better! Kinda like a Serious Sam based on real factions!