[QUOTE="Sgt_Hale"][QUOTE="DeckardLee"]
Again, these are games that don't use compression well for audio and video or abuse FMVs. Show me a game that was multiplat that had features cut because of space when the game came out at the same time. Even if you could show me one, I would have several times more than that in which the developers added more content with less space.
DeckardLee
I wager you'd have a hard time naming more than 1-2 games at all that had more assets, better effects, better audio, or improved physics on the dvd version of the game... if any at all. We're talking assets, not content... there is a difference. Games have not become longer or offered any more modes than they did last gen... so of course you can fit comparable content on either disc. But developers from stand up studios such as Take Two, Rockstar, Activision, & even Mistwalker have complained that the limited space on a dvd has caused complications in fitting their assets on the disc... are you insinuating that you are better at their job than they are? Because I'm sorry, they have a lot more credibility than you do.And of Killzone 2, MGS4, Uncharted, R&C, Motorstorm, etc... not a single one abused FMV. So once again, that argument does not hold at all. It does not help your argument that on consoles, the games that pack the most detail, effects, and action onscreen are all PS3 exclusives... whether or not that makes them better games is a totally different argument, and one that is purely a matter of opinion. But the visual fidelity of these games really don't have anything left to prove. Sure, they have more than blu ray to thank for this... but to think that it did not contribute is silly. Ever since the Atari, developers have made advantage of having more space, period. Otherwise, why not just develop better compression tools and go back to printing games on cd's??? Don't be silly...
Again, you continue to maintain that the fact that the Blu-Ray can hold more data actually translates into more "detail, effects, and action onscreen". That's laughable.. at best. The only things today that are sacrificed due to size are audio and FMVs. Sure, in the future games will need more space. That's a no brainer. In fact, that's been speculated as to why GTAVI will be a PS3 console exclusive. It's painfully obvious that game's WOULD benefit from additonal space and in the future need it. But, for the most part, as of the moment, the difference between 8GB and 25GB can be solved through compression which is what games have been doing this generation.
Also, the reason you don't notice FMVs this generation and think they're not as common as they were before is because they are videos of the game running in the actual engine. This isn't the PSX generation where Final Fantasy VII ran FMVs of graphics far beyond the in-game graphics. Gears Of War had SEVERAL FMVs but you wouldn't have noticed they were FMVs if I hadn't told you because it looks damn near identical to the actual in-game graphics. They do this to get more things on screen that the hardware couldn't handle. Since in-game graphics are so much better this generation, the players and developers prefer to keep FMVs roughly the same so as not to cause a disconnect between the contrasting representations.
Here's some facts: Games just as big as PS3 exclusives are on DVDs with no loss in anything. There are really any games on the market today that use more than 8GB without a lack of compression unless they use a lot of audio or FMVs a la MGS4.
Also, LOL @ MGS4 not using a lot of FMV. MGS4 has TONs of FMV, again, you just couldn't notice because they were designed to look as if they were in-engine. Did you read any of Kojima's interviews? I doubt it. You know nothing. I'm going to chalk up your entire post as ignorance and be done with it until you can back up your claim.
Very good post, a lot of people dont realise this is how games like MGS4 transition from cutscene to gameplay!
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