[QUOTE="Eyezonmii"][QUOTE="hakanakumono"]

There are actually survival horror portions within RE4, but the majority of it is not. The ashley portion = yes.

The portion where leon faces the creature in the falling crates = very much so, yes

dream431ca

What I think you need to do is explain what you mean by survival horror without naming any games, just what you think survival horror ultimately is.

[QUOTE="Eyezonmii"]Yes, because Ashley part with NO weapons...isn't survival.Saturos3091

[QUOTE="Eyezonmii"] tell me about it, we should all know by now that the Wii is pretty much a tad improved gamecube...the best we will get on it is this game and Metroid prime 3, you can't push more than that..without making major cutbacks in areas, etc...the hardware is just too weak. it was already proved the Xbox 1 had better shaders and some hardware features than the Wii....so you won't see DOOM 3/riddick- graphics. Grinning_Demon

Actually, the only area the XBox 1ups the Wii is in resolution output. The Wii can make all the shaders the original Xbox did but through emulation, while Microsoft built its system with PC toolsets, the Wii has its own and devs have to remake these shaders instead of just grabing them out of the shelve, problem is, most dont want to take the time to do it.

However HVS actually managed to make an engine where all these features are ready to use but people here seem to ignore that.

As for Metroid Prime 3 , it isnt the peak of Wii graphics, the game runs in 60 fps locked (like Galaxy and Brawl). Put it at 30 and you'le squeze more bells and whistles out of the system (even though i rather have my games at 60fps)

[QUOTE="Eyezonmii"]Yes, because Ashley part with NO weapons...isn't survival. And let this video do the talking.... http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=8Za6u613jUQ&feature=relatedhakanakumono

There are actually survival horror portions within RE4, but the majority of it is not. The ashley portion = yes.

The portion where leon faces the creature in the falling crates = very much so, yes

[QUOTE="Eyezonmii"][QUOTE="Saturos3091"] So it's not a real survival-horror game, they're just calling it that because it fits the definition of "survival" and "horror?" Is that what you're saying now? If so then I guess Capcom would consider DMC a survival-horror too. You've got to "survive the horror" of demons being unleashed upon the earth (which is a far scarier concept than a bunch of disgruntled farmers with pitchforks), and it's a much more difficult game as well meaning I'd have to actually ration my healing items. Quite simply a survival-horror game is a game which has horror, and survival elements. Now apparently I need to tell you what those two things are since you claim that survival means "you survive the horror of it." Horror elements are generally shock related. Most things aren't really "horrifying" if you see lots of them or similar events. That's why games like RE (the previous ones) relied on shock factor, as well as a "frightening" enemy design to pull off horror. Of course they had a more tense, more frightening, and more eerie atmosphere than RE4 as well. Of course this can be attributed to the overpowered main character, poor weapon balance (in comparison to what it should've been for a survival horror), the comedic script, the scaling drop system, the merchant, etc. Just like you said, RE4's horror elements were toned down substantially. Then when you get into the survival elements, that's where RE4 just falls flat on it's face, gets up, and falls again. The game has very little survival elements. Where's the exploration? The game has a linear progression from beginning to end, items and enemies on a set, straight pathway to the endgame. Where's the feeling of weakness and loneliness? Weakness left early once you managed to get your hands on that shotgun in the village (unless you don't know how to aim), and Ashley completely destroyed any sense of loneliness, especially with other supporting characters running around (Ada, etc.). Where's the adventure element, the intellectual mindgame/minigame that you need to progress the story? It's not there. RE4 is not a survival-horror game. It's an action game with horror elements and nothing more.Ragashahs

Why are people confusing VERY SCARY GAMES with SURVIVAL HORROR? To be survival horror, doesn't have to be Silent Hill freaky or fatal frame scary. RE4 is a horror based game, due to enemies, atmosphere and setting, you have to SURVIVE the horror of it, with addition of great tension that builds up the surival aspect and anxiety to try and win it. Basic stuff, its why its labeled a SURVIVAL HORROR game by capcom...LOL. Eyezonmii

[QUOTE="Eyezonmii"][QUOTE="dream431ca"]

Survive is the key word. In Half-life 2, you must survive, there are people getting destroyed by vile creatures and some places like Ravenholm (I think that's how you spell it) have a thick atmosphere with a lot of tension and anxiety. Does that make Half-life 2 survival horror? No.

When we talk about survival in survival horror, it usually means that you must run away from most of the enemies rather than fight them to stay alive. RE4 is a horror based game, but so is Left 4 Dead and that game has a huge amount of tension and anxiety. Read my last post and you'll see what I mean.

Ragashahs

[QUOTE="Eyezonmii"]Why are people confusing VERY SCARY GAMES with SURVIVAL HORROR? To be survival horror, doesn't have to be Silent Hill freaky or fatal frame scary. RE4 is a horror based game, due to enemies, atmosphere and setting, you have to SURVIVE the horror of it, with addition of great tension that builds up the surival aspect and anxiety to try and win it. Basic stuff, its why its labeled a SURVIVAL HORROR game by capcom...LOL. Guyper

RE4 and RE5 are not survival horror....FACT!

Don't you still get it yet? The reason why Capcom labeled it as SURVIVAL HORROR is because they know that blind gamers like you would fall for it.