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#1 NanoMan88
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[QUOTE="edidili"]PC gamers been doing that for years now. Welcome to the club.

KC_Hokie

I understand that. But is EA/DICE prepared for sales not to be as high as expected on consoles due to the gimped ports. And console software sales are usually the majority of PC-console multiplatform sales.

So your saying DICE should focus on the console versions and gimp the PC version despite BC2 selling more on PC?

DICE is not gimping you, they are just offering features to platforms that can actually handle it. Thats like asking them to take out 1080p support, dx11 and high gfx settings because a console cannot run it. Do you realize how selfish you sound?

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[QUOTE="GeneralShowzer"][QUOTE="KC_Hokie"]Sounds lazy to me and about 3 people are working on the console port. KC_Hokie
How about you wait and see how much effort went in the console version? If it looks and sounds better than most console shooters and keeps a solid framerate, then you know that a ****load of effort went in optimizing the console version.

I'll believe it when I see it. Based on the comments from DICE they aren't putting too much into the console versions.

Apparently a better PC version means the console version will be crap?

Thats stupid, DICE is doing whatever they can with the hardware at their disposal, its not their fault that consoles are outdated. Also many console games are 24 players anyways and look far worse compared to BF3, to you its a port if the PC has 64 players then the consoles should have it too! while despite ignoring the obvious difference in hardware. PC gamers are paying premium on their hardware to run with 64 players and I wager not all pc gamers will be able to play BF3 on 64 player servers either.

If there was a thread where some hermit with obsolete hardware was crying that DICE sucks because he cannot play Bf3 on a 64 player server @ high settings because he has a e6600 and 7800gt, everyone would just laugh at him and call him out.

While if some consolite complains about the same thing, its legitimate whining and they have the right to say it because they own a console?

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#3 NanoMan88
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[QUOTE="SamiRDuran"]Consolization is the cause for the lack of originality.nervmeister
Oh really. And I suppose PC has way more innovative games this gen such as **insert FPS or RTS here**.

Maybe you should look at the PCs library of games instead of just the bigbudget games and multiplatforms.

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#4 NanoMan88
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You would think that after almost 4 years of COD dominance on consoles, competitors might actually think "gee, maybe we should shoot for 60fps in our next game."

RawDeal_basic

Well COD looks like crap and console owners complain about how dated its gfx are. Sorry you cannot have 60fps while having your game look good, its just not possible on your dated hardware.

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#5 NanoMan88
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and yes people would pay 55$ for a used copy rather than 60$ for a new copy especially if gamestop guarentees it works.

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#6 NanoMan88
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[QUOTE="hakanakumono"]

Nonsense. Used games are 1:1. One game has to be sold to get into the other persons hands. It only takes 1 pirated copy to reach the hands of thousands. Complaining about used games as ridiculous as complaining about used book or DVD sales.

dc337

Exactly. It should also be pointed out that with used games the price remains high around release while with piracy the cost is always $0. Comparing the two is silly.

I think it is just another lame rationalization pirates came up with to try and feel better about ripping off developers

and you and gamestop are not ripping of the developers? I am not condoning piracy but take a look at yourself in the mirror before you say you are not ripping them off. The price of the used game could be 55$ (the highest I have seen) and not one penny would go to the developers or publishers.

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This is also why piracy has no bearing on the PC market being "consolized" or whatever the kids are calling it now days. If all the game sales on consoles actually went to the developer, im sure they would not even bother making a pc version.

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#8 NanoMan88
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[QUOTE="hakanakumono"]

Nonsense. Used games are 1:1. One game has to be sold to get into the other persons hands. It only takes 1 pirated copy to reach the hands of thousands. Complaining about used games as ridiculous as complaining about used book or DVD sales.

AncientDozer

Or used cars, as Wiggly suggests Or giving your old stuff that you never use to your friend. Or donating clothes or passing clothes off to a younger sibling when you outgrow them. It's ludicrous.

If you read the TOS you will see what the developer considers their game as, something which they own. As another poster said think of it as a rollercoaster ticket, with your ticket being for u. You cannot resell it to others because that would be scalpting tickets. You may think its okay but the dev doesnt see it that way, thats why they are fighting used games just like piracy. Again dont toot ur moral horn by saying I paid for my product while these pirates didnt, being your idea of a good person doesnt put money in the hands of devs who will hopefully create a sequel for the game.

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#9 NanoMan88
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[QUOTE="navyguy21"][QUOTE="gmaster456"]

So if buying a game used is now considered stealing then what about renting games :shock:

If I bought an iPad used off of ebay did I steal that to?

My car is used so I guess I stole that to. I'm a theif! Somebody throw me in Jail!

DerekLoffin

Not the same thing. Let me use this analogy Video game software is like the a roller coaster. You buy a ticket (game) to experience a ride and the maker of that ride (the dev) gets paid. What gamestop does is let u trade ur used tickets to ride another ride, and resell ur ticket to someone else. Your examples were if you bought the actual rollercoaster, not the ticket.

No, that is not what a game sale is. The game companies may want to make game sales that way, but no. You own a copy, and just like selling a book, you as the owner are allowed to resell it.

Well its their property and intellectual IP according to the TOS, so who are you to argue with it? Thats what pirates say, they are just sharing their game with others.

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#10 NanoMan88
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[QUOTE="GTSaiyanjin2"]

[QUOTE="Firebird-5"]

no one pirates battlefield games

mitu123

people will prirate anything, even PS3 games when the PS3 was not even hacked yet :P But yeah BF3 does actually have a single player campaign, and its the only footge we have seen so far for some reason :x

It's funny because BC2 was the other way around, as they shown tons of MP footage and single player like a month or 2 before release.

I am really tired of all the SP footage and I want to see some MP already, really does any real bf fan care about the SP, sure it will be nice but once I beat it I am never going to play it again. DICE should remember their roots MP first.