Thank goodness we can get back to the real Chucky series. I hope this is good. I really liked Cult and I would like to see this be a continuation of that movie.
@daidochus: Oh, I'm not arguing that it wasn't flawed. But people are exaggerating a lot of the time, mostly because they don't like Abby and they're upset over Joel. I heard the complaints before going through the game, then after going through it, I had to wonder about a lot of them and what people were talking about because I just didn't see them. Personally, I enjoyed it and liked it's story/characters. It wasn't always a pleasant experience, but I felt like the story was a risk that Naughty Dog took, which I appreciated.
@daidochus: Exactly. No one is good or bad, they just do what they feel is necessary. Revenge is apart of the world too, meaning Abby is no more or less a villain than anyone else, meaning she deserves death no more or less than Joel or Ellie, meaning she deserves her revenge as much as everyone else.
As for no one giving a damn about Abby, I disagree. I gave a damn about her, as did many others. Reviewers certainly seemed to like/care for Abby. YOU didn't care about Abby, as many others didn't. That doesn't mean there weren't players who didn't give a damn about her. My attachment to Joel wasn't above the game, world, or story. Player's attachment to characters is not a driving force of this world or it's story.
@dhracox: After all the murder committed in the game, killing Abby shouldn't feel necessary. It's certainly not necessary for the game. Everyone seems so hellbent on Abby being killed, when killing Abby was never really justice in the first place after what Joel did. After all the killing we do already in the game, adding Abby's body to the list would have just been wish fulfillment, nothing more or less, which I certainly consider being bloodthirsty.
@Xero_Kaiser: Sure, and she got to a point where she realized she was done and didn't WANT to kill Abby. At that last point, she came to terms with Joel's death and the fact that it was over. She didn't NEED to kill her anymore. People change, even at the climactic moment. Players, even after everything, are so convinced this whole game was all about killing Abby. It wasn't.
@KingWormer: I don't understand why players are so insistent on the game ending with more murder. After going through dozens of dead people at the hands of both characters, you'd think that there'd be enough death and the girls having settled their differences would be a decent enough ending. All these players are so damn bloodthirsty.
@_Shuyin_: That's kind of the point though. Ellie gave up everything for a quest she never should have gone on in the first place. We, the players, loved Joel because we'd spent time with him. That doesn't mean Joel didn't deserve what he got. Abby would have deserved death too, had she gotten it. Heck, Ellie would have deserved it too. But this game isn't about what the players want. That's not the story the developers wanted to tell. Whether or not players accept that is up to them. This is a story about these characters, what they go through, and what they're willing to do for what they believe. That doesn't make them right or wrong, that just makes it apart of the world they live in. Revenge, killing, death, all of this is just part of the cycle they live in, one they perpetuate on their own. Had Joel not gone back in and murdered the doctors, Abby would not have come for him, and no cycle of revenge would have occurred.
@_Shuyin_: At that point, what would it have achieved? Abby was weak, too weak to be a threat. Would murdering Abby really have been a justified end? A lot of this rhetoric seems to come from people's attachment to Joel, which is flawed itself considering all the people Joel needlessly murdered. If everyone just goes around murdering each other, at some point someone has to just let go. That's what Ellie did. She'd finished her mission, which was never really about killing Abby in the first place, and then she just let it go because there was nothing else she needed to do.
@bdrtfm: "Deserved it"...that's arguable. I wouldn't say Abby deserved it anymore than Joel or Ellie. And it never felt like killing Abby, when all was said and done, was the end game. Ellie needed closure. At one point in the game, closure might have been killing Abby, but not by the time we got to the actual ending. At that point, Ellie just needed to feel like she was punishing Abby. Once she realized killing Abby was unnecessary, she didn't need to kill her.
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