[QUOTE="RussellBurrows"]

[QUOTE="groudyogre"]This is funny. This is the exact reason cows are called cows. If sony can afford to sell the PS3 at $399, then what does that say about them charging $599 for it to begin with? Think about it then get back to me ;)Magical_Zebra

The only funny thing is what it says about YOU.Two years ago getting a four Gigabyte usb removable media for under one hundred dollars was an impossible feat. Things tend to drop in price as time goes on.A year ago blu-ray diodes were MORE expensive.Cell chips were MORE expensive, RAM was MORE expensive.This lowering of price for most electronic items is self evident for most folks.

The dark cave under the bridge that YOU were looking for is that way>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

You still didnt answer the question. Actually its a valid question, do you have an answer? :shock:

You mean going from 125 to 150 dollars or more DOWN to 8 dollars or so due to production volume is not self explanatory?

Sigh, education is gone down hill these days.

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Source:
http://www.sony.net/SonyInfo/News/Press/200704/07-037E/index.html
http://biz.gamedaily.com/industry/feature/?id=15931

Because of this anticipated demand Sony said it already installed front-end wafer process equipment capable of producing 5 million blue-violet laser diodes. This would be for BD playback only, not BD recorders, but that's all that's needed for the PS3. Along with this boost in production, Sony expects that starting this June blue-violet laser diodes will only cost 900 to 1,000 yen (meaning only a bit over $8 per diode). The Blu-ray drive itself was estimated by iSuppli last year to cost Sony around $125 per unit, but as a new component the blue laser diodes likely accounted for a good chunk of the cost (especially during a time when they were in short supply).

[QUOTE="ParasiteDemon"]You got to admit, casuals don't want a POST when they start their PC.....but who does?DontQuoteM3h

post? piece of **** and whatthe next word. jeeeze u guys have too many abrevisions here./

POS pulsed online system, EMP electro magnetic pulse, PDE pulsed detonation engine, JAFO just another ***** observer, BRB be right back, plenty of them and plenty of hobbies.

This is funny. This is the exact reason cows are called cows. If sony can afford to sell the PS3 at $399, then what does that say about them charging $599 for it to begin with? Think about it then get back to me ;)groudyogre

The only funny thing is what it says about YOU.

Two years ago getting a four Gigabyte usb removable media for under one hundred dollars was an impossible feat. Things tend to drop in price as time goes on.A year ago blu-ray diodes were MORE expensive.Cell chips were MORE expensive, RAM was MORE expensive.This lowering of price for most electronic items is self evident for most folks.

The dark cave under the bridge that YOU were looking for is that way>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

[QUOTE="RussellBurrows"][QUOTE="kruesader"]

Fact is TC, you fail.

Also, if I would be forced to put my life on the brilliance of two games, it would be SMG and SSBB, not just hopeful AAAs that need hype, these games will stomp. I have a bet about them in SW bets, if you don't think they will pwn then come bet against it.

taker42

An imperfect video presentation at 480p and an imperfect audio presentation at prologic do not make a perfect game, mate.

Giday.

The cavemans game collector disscusion is that way in the 1990 to 1995 and before cave entrance KTHXBYE!

This area that we are in is 2007 and is current games where they are at least 720p capable and at least Dolby Digital capable.

Play prime 3, if you don't like it then you should not even concern yourself with the wii. sale numbers are all that counts aswell as ratings. It is the only basis of arguement we have as everyone has a different understanding of fun. Before bashing the wii, wait till jan 08 and if ssmb and smg flopped, nintendo owners might actually consider reviewing your understanding of a good game.ssj_ken

You mean those same folks who were ok with purchasing Resident Evil 2 and Resident Evil Three when it was an old game but was ported to the Game Cube and those same folks were happy paying fourty dollars for those old games.The same folks that are willing to overlook any defect on the Wii games be it terrible gameplay by saying well that one comes with a remote, or overlooking simple defects like faulty controls or few onscreen enemies or small maps or lack of online?

Nah those same folks are willing to overlook any defect since how else to explain Nintendo folks buying shovelware Wii games when they know its bad and they still buy it? And we get Game Developers telling you folks that the worst games are sent to the Wii and the folks still just whatever and continue to buy both more wii hardware and more wii shovelware.

And I have yet to see a site where games are rated buy a single factor like:

Fun? so how were the sound? no rating and how was the presentation? no rating and how was the online? no rating and how was the originality? no rating and how was the controll factor? no rating.

No way any reasonable person is going to trust a review like that since rewiewers glossing over defects be they hardware limitations or software limitations is a bogus review.

What ticks me off is some developers spending months recording sound libraries to have the game sound as best as they can VERSUS folks just going with generic what ever sounds since its only going to be in prologic.

The same goes for developers spending years to get as much detail as they can to improve the presentation versus developers just going for a whatever presentation with the excuse that its only for a max. resolution of 480p.

What ticks me off is the guys that goofed off get the SAME score as the folks that did they best posible job in their area of expertise.

This is the same as giving the same score at a car judging show to the guy who spent two hours to paint a show car versus the rest of the competitors who spent months hand sanding coat after coat to get the best posible presentation.

Thats why I think Game Spot reviews are BOGUS.

How hard is it to judge a game in these areas:

Control.

Story.

Replay value.

Presentation.

Sound.

Originality.

Online.

So if the Wii controls are better versus a regular controler then score it so.And if the presentation or sound is lower due to either technical limitations or developers just not careing then lets score it so instead of glossing everything over and lying to the potential consumer by not mentioning defects in the game or game limitations like no online.

Thats why I think that at a verifiable level that the Wii has the worst games since they come limited in several areas that are not subjective.

Shooting real guns is hard kid.

MP is just kids play.

Halo takes more skill , like real shooting.

-Ninja_Dog-

Agreed MP is just kids play.

In a video game tweaked to simulate fireing a real gun, yes its harder shooting a gun versus kid friendly Wii controls.

In real life its much harder fireing a real gun and lets not even get into the lets up the difficulty factor when whats going past your mind is am I going to get game over from a bullet today.

Oh and last but not least is the pucker factor of walking past a vehicle and wondering if its going to be nothing or if that vehicle is going to turn you into a crisspy critter.

Never a dull moment in some places, folks.

Fact is TC, you fail.

Also, if I would be forced to put my life on the brilliance of two games, it would be SMG and SSBB, not just hopeful AAAs that need hype, these games will stomp. I have a bet about them in SW bets, if you don't think they will pwn then come bet against it.

kruesader

An imperfect video presentation at 480p and an imperfect audio presentation at prologic do not make a perfect game, mate.

Giday.

Yet, despite audio/video short comings, the Wii is still able to provide a breathtaking experience comparable to anything its competitors can make as well. To say that the lack of technology on par with the other systems immediately merits the console as having no good games is a ludicrous statement, and is obviously an attempt to point out trivial matters in the face of art worthy of Da Vinci. Why must you fail to see the inequities of your own console choice instead of constantly putting yourself in the offensive position without even knowing why your enemy is such. If you play the games, you would find that, even though it isn't an orchestra in your house, the games on the Wii can feature wonderful scores of emotion provoking sound tracks, despite what flaws it may have. To say that $100 bill is worthless because someone else has a $100 and a $20 bill is completely inaccurate. So I politely ask, Russel, get off your Wii hate band-wagon and sound quality soap box until you show me, and everyone else, you aren't just finding something to hate because you want something to hate.coreygames

And where did I say that the Wii has no good games?

No place!

Please read what I post and that is that of games available for the 360 and games for the PS3 and games for the Wii; those for the Wii will be the worst games due to hardware limitations in audio and video, number of onscreen enemies, etc. and lack of quality control A.K.A. shovelware.

As a Wii resolution of 480i or 480p is inferior to other available and superior resolutions on other home consoles.

A Wii hardware spec. of only prologic is inferior to other options on other home consoles that have Dolby Digital .

Facts.get.over.it.

When comparing oranges to oranges the Wii underperforms in the visual department and the Wii underperforms in the audio department.

A single good game for 49 bad ones does not redeem the console as quality is slim to none and slim just quit working to go back to making music.

So if reviewers are glossing over defects in Wii games this calls into question the actual validity of said Game Spot reviews for Wii games since its unfair to give a 9.0 (more or less) to a 360 game like Bioshock and then give the same exact score to a lower performing game like Metroid Prime Three thats a Wii game and has a lower quality video presentation and has a lower audio presentation with only prologic sound.

A real review system gives both voice to game defects and or lower performing aspects of a game and subtracts points for said defects. What we have now is hey lets gloss these short comings on the Wii games and act like they do not exist so that we can give the same scores to Wii games as we do to 360 and PS3 games.This results in any Wii review scores being worthless as they are unbalanced in favor of condoning lower quality performances on the Wii.