The problem is that its noticeable for anyone playing the game and for any reviewer. The problem is when reviewers stop giving a real score even when they cite such measurable items as sound and presentation and then go on to gloss them over that you no longer have a real baseline for comparison.

Thats when review scores cease to have any real value when the common and untrained can see that there are shortfalls to the reviewed media and the evaluators that we trust? cease to be precise as to what items are being tested.

The problem then becomes that games begin to be scored by whatever score the reviewer feels like giving and at the same time ignoring and glossing over faults that the integrity of those doing the testing is called into question.

The games on the Wii come with two impediments from the getgo and these are lower quality sound and lower quality presentation and to ignore these is to cast down any veracity of any scores given to such games.

The Wii games as a total have these defects that are measurable and quantifiable...........

BRB.

The final quality of a game is based on all parts of it and not just a SUBJECTIVE reviewers score that conviniently decides that quality sound or lack of is not measurable and who also decide quality presentation or lack of therby is no longer a quantity that can be quantified then if that point is reached then the scores or lack of them become pointless and meaningless.

http://www.cinemablend.com/games/Editorial-Nintendo-s-Wii-Is-The-Gaming-Industry-s-Financial-Scapegoat-5645.html

But the importance of this article has been building up over the last few months due to the alarming rate of ill-conceived and indolently made games for the Wii.

"The sound quality with digital surround is certainly much better"

Does the 360 have this?

Yes.

Does the PS3 have this?

Yes.

Does the Wii have this?

No!

The games on the Wii are worse than on the other two consoles.

What part about that statement is unclear?

Resolution is 720 or better on the 360.

Yes.

Resolution is 720 or better on the PS3.

Yes.

Resolution on the Wii is lower than this.

So we have the audio portion of the Wii game being worse than comparable offerings.

The video portion of the Wiis games are worse than comparable offerings on other home consoles.

What part is unclear?

The Wii has the worst games.

Thats what the topic title was.

Videogames=audio visual experience.

Later folks.

Yeah except for AM vs. Fm is completely different since 100% of the experience there is auditory. Also nobody's playing games with the sound off theyre playing with 2 speakers at whatever volume they please. I have surround sound. I used it in Bioshock, Gears of War, Chaos Theory, Oblivion etc.... is it great? yeah. does it "change the game" nope.

hazuki87

NOBODY that has Dolby Digital 5.1 or 7.1 only has two speakers............geez kid buy some better speakers and get a subwoofer then come back and tell us about it.

And the Wii has how many of these"is it great? yeah" games?

None!

Case closed.

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[QUOTE="DaysAirlines"]The PS3 is only like 20 dollars more than the 360 right now right?_koolgirl_

It's $150 more right now at $499 for the 60GB. Sony is still looking million at this price. If they released a 40GB PS3 for $400, they will even be losing a LOT more money. It cost Sony about $700 to make the 80GB PS3. They will be losing about $150-$200 for every $400 40GB PS3 they sold. That's a lot of losses.

Quoted for voice of reason :)

Look, I don't understand who believes this rumor for any other reason other than wishful thinking.

Sony WANTS their price point to be $599, that is the price that incurs them the least amount of loss. Their strategy seems to be to keep adding things to the $599 version untill people see it as a good deal (ie an extra 20 gigs plus a pack in game).

Logically, why would they discontinue a 20 gig model at $499, just to come out with a 40 gig model at $399????? If they were not happy with the profits from the 20 gig, why would they incur more cost and make the system cheaper to the consumer? I mean hell, they could have kept the 20 gig in production and marked it down to $399, it would have still had better hardware (bluray) then the 360 and been the same price, yet they did not. This rumor has been around for several months but nothing has come out of it.

Except:

Twenty gig. hardrives are being discontinued so keeping that 20 G. SKU was going to get expensive in a few more months as drive makers cut off supply.

The smallest supported drive for this year and into 2008 for the most part is a 40 G. drive so with the Emotion chip gone it makes sense to have a 40 G. unit at 399 to gain sales traction and move units as with the missing E chip its less costly to produce a 40 G. SKU than it is to try to find more supply of 20 G. units that are being discontinued= going up and up in price.

Therefore that rumor is looking more certain but lets wait for TGS for confirmation since speculation is fun but confirmation is much more satisfying.

... so you won't play games in anything but 7.1 surround sound now? Too good for Stereo?

YEah its not as advanced or immersive. But that really has little impact over how good the game is so why dont you give it a rest.

hazuki87

Its the same as AM versus FM for music.

Video games are an audio visual experience so chopping off 50 % of the experience is no big deal? bah!

Watch a movie or play any game with the sound off and then tell me again how the sound does not matter and tell you what go play Bioshock or any other game with the sound off and tell me it has no impact. Bah! I say you lie.

And the topic was the Wii has the worst games so case closed.

How many time do I have to explain this, you know nothing don't equal nothing.

ArisShadows

How about making sense when you post?

Wii games in plain stereo or prologic suck.

Wii games in monophonic sound suck.

Fact:

The Wii is only capable of prologic sound output.

How many Wii games are in Dolby Digital ?

NONE! Not a single one.

Case closed.

Shovelware games on the Wii in plenty of cases feature monophonic sound from left main speaker and monophonic sound from right main speaker, gee how "wonderfull".

I prefer Dolby Digital sound so any game that is not capable of this is a lower quality game by todays games production.

How many times do I have to post my list...

Wii's Games:

Now:
Zelda: Twilight Princess
Super Paper Mario
Mario Strikers Charged
Metroid Prime 3
Warioware: Smooth Moves
Trama Center: Second Opinion
Resident Evil 4: Wii Edition
Elebits
Excite Truck
Sonic and the Secret Rings
Rayman Raving Rabbids
Wii Sports

Rest of 2007:
Mercury Meltdown Revolution
Battalion Wars 2
Zack and Wiki
Fire Emblem
Super Mario Galaxy
Super Smash Brothers Brawl
Resident Evil: Umbrella Chronicles
Trama Center: New Blood
NiGHTs: Journey Into Dreams
Dewy's Adventure
Donkey Kong: Barrel Blast
Endless Ocean
Geometry Wars: Galaxies
Guitar Hero 3
Manhunt 2
Mario & Sonic at the Olympic Games
MySims
Rayman Raving Rabbids 2
Medal of Honor Heroes 2

2008:
Dragon Quest Swords
Mario Kart Wii
Final Fantasy: CC
Kirby Wii
De Blob
No More Heroes
Disaster: Day of Crisis
Mushroom Men
Saddness
Tales of Symphonia 2
WiiFit (meh)
Kings Story
Animal Crossing Wii (unannounced, but rumored)
God Game (unnamed)
Horror Game (unnamed) yaceka

The Wii has the worst games coming out:

Worst online.

Check.

Worst sound with crap prologic.

Check.

Worst lineup with mostly shovelware.

Check.

Worst game quality as games are chopped or missing features when multiplat comparison.

Check.

Worst resolution.

Check.

Worst value for paid delivered product.

Check.

Worst console storage capacity.

Check.

The Wii has the worst games coming out:

Sholvelware games, crap sound in prologic with no dolby digital, weak in every aspect as far as games and even in its only strong point its weak with plenty of Wiik games being loose to control:

Why Nintendo Wii owns the garbage can.

Fixed it for ya.