[QUOTE="SW__Troll"]

[QUOTE="casharmy"]

Put the highest quality WRPGs up against the highest quality JRPGs...I'll go JRPG.

for me:

Dark/Demon'sSouls > Oblivion/Skyrim

DireOwl

http://www.edge-online.com/features/interview-demons-souls

Sony's Takeshi Kajii and From Software's Hidetaka Miyazaki on why the dark fantasy title has captured the imagination of players worldwide.

"Likewise, the dark, heavy fantasy setting runs contrary to the JRPG's ongoing primary-coloured charm aesthetic, while the ponderous, precise nature of the combat contains none of the insta-thrill of its exuberant, button-mashing contemporaries."

""I'm no fan of the genre westerners refer to as the JRPG," saysTakeshi Kajii, the producer at Sony Computer Entertainment who first approached From Software with the proposition to rediscover a lost breed of action game."

I like this guy more each day.

The flattery surrounding me, on these forums, knows no bounds.

It's not over priced.People just look at something and talk crap.Yet the Vita has so much crammed in it for that price it's worth it.Plus I am getting a memory card with mine.And if people have good enough job they shouldn't be complaining about price's at all.

Promised_Trini

So if people have a good enough job they stop understanding the concept of value?

[QUOTE="Bigboi500"]JRPGs. WRPGs have bad characters and tired stories. Their leveling up systems are usually broken, and some end up being something other than RPGs, like hack n slash or shooters. JRPGs usually offer more imagination and adventure, colorful characters and interesting settings that don't look like garbage dumps.foxhound_fox

Sounds like two people whose only experience with WRPGs this gen have been consoles.

Put the highest quality WRPGs up against the highest quality JRPGs...I'll go JRPG.

for me:

Dark/Demon'sSouls > Oblivion/Skyrim

casharmy

http://www.edge-online.com/features/interview-demons-souls

Sony's Takeshi Kajii and From Software's Hidetaka Miyazaki on why the dark fantasy title has captured the imagination of players worldwide.

"Likewise, the dark, heavy fantasy setting runs contrary to the JRPG's ongoing primary-coloured charm aesthetic, while the ponderous, precise nature of the combat contains none of the insta-thrill of its exuberant, button-mashing contemporaries."

""I'm no fan of the genre westerners refer to as the JRPG," saysTakeshi Kajii, the producer at Sony Computer Entertainment who first approached From Software with the proposition to rediscover a lost breed of action game."

Rayman Origins

Didn't it sell like 1.8 games copies across all platforms?

[QUOTE="SW__Troll"]

[QUOTE="santoron"]

Source?

santoron

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http://www.1up.com/news/hirai-psn-losing-money-turn

"Speaking to Reuters Japan this week (via Hachimaki), Sony Computer Entertainment President Kaz Hirai described the PlayStation Network as "in the red" but believed that it would turn a profit during the next fiscal year.

According to the report, PSN sales during the 2009 fiscal year added up to 36 billion yen (approx. $434.3 million USD). That number "nearly doubled" in 2010. However, Hirai said "we're aiming to enter the black during the 2011 fiscal year." Furthermore, he projected that PSN sales would reach 300 billion yen ($3.6 billion) in the 2012 fiscal year. He cited the number of registered PSN accounts (60 million as of November) as evidence of the service's growth.

In a separate English interview, Hirai said that Sony anticipated selling 15 million PlayStation 3 consoles by March 31st of next year, an increase from the 13 million they sold in the previous fiscal year."

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He says in fiscal year 2009 PSN made $434.3 million dollars, but remained in the red.

And then states that in fiscal year 2010 the PSN made nearly DOUBLE that $434.3 million (so around $860 million), and was STILL in the red.

Obviously in 2011 the PSN was in the red after the PSN fiasco (where they lost an estimated $171 million), so we can't really be sure if they'd have actually made a profit that year.

It's not free for Sony or MS to provide PSN and XBL. Anyone who thinks these services come cheap is really naive.

None of that actually denotes a cost of running a P2P matchmaking service, which is what lems seems to hope PSN charges for. The cost of providing demos, dedicated servers for select 1st party titles, DD content, and their streaming media services are far more expensive, and yet it sounds like Sony believes the current pricing model will become profitable with the existing pricing structure.

Anyone who thinks providing a matchmaking server for people to play their games on their internet service using their own hardware as a server is really naive.

Sony believes it'll happen, and yet year after year it never has.

That's a problem Microsoft avoided.

I want Sony to charge for the sake of the company. They can't just keep taking these billion dollar hits year after year, and as long as they keep trying to catch up to the Xbox Live feature-wise that cost will just become greater and greater and greater.

[QUOTE="SW__Troll"]

It might be, but it also costs hundreds of millions of dollars to operate.

santoron

Source?

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http://www.1up.com/news/hirai-psn-losing-money-turn

"Speaking to Reuters Japan this week (via Hachimaki), Sony Computer Entertainment President Kaz Hirai described the PlayStation Network as "in the red" but believed that it would turn a profit during the next fiscal year.

According to the report, PSN sales during the 2009 fiscal year added up to 36 billion yen (approx. $434.3 million USD). That number "nearly doubled" in 2010. However, Hirai said "we're aiming to enter the black during the 2011 fiscal year." Furthermore, he projected that PSN sales would reach 300 billion yen ($3.6 billion) in the 2012 fiscal year. He cited the number of registered PSN accounts (60 million as of November) as evidence of the service's growth.

In a separate English interview, Hirai said that Sony anticipated selling 15 million PlayStation 3 consoles by March 31st of next year, an increase from the 13 million they sold in the previous fiscal year."

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He says in fiscal year 2009 PSN made $434.3 million dollars, but remained in the red.

And then states that in fiscal year 2010 the PSN made nearly DOUBLE that $434.3 million (so around $860 million), and was STILL in the red.

Obviously in 2011 the PSN was in the red after the PSN fiasco (where they lost an estimated $171 million), so we can't really be sure if they'd have actually made a profit that year.

It's not free for Sony or MS to provide PSN and XBL. Anyone who thinks these services come cheap is really naive.

I wouldn't mind him giving low scores if he didn't then turn around and talk about how great the game is. It's okay to give a good score to a game you like, Tom.PurpleMan5000

Yah, but when writing reviews for other people you instill within them an expectation of what they'll get out of the game.

If he gave a bunch of broken, and frustrating-to-play games high scores just because he personally found a good quality about them then eventually people would stop trusting Gamespot for game reviews.

I agree with the entire article, and his stance on Kinect titles.

[QUOTE="SW__Troll"]

[QUOTE="LazySloth718"]

Do you think it costs $0 to run Amazon?

No but it's their own expense related to running a store on the internet.

2 consoles connecting over the internet is not a service of Xbox Live.

LazySloth718

That'd be a wonderful analogy if both Amazon and XBL provided the same services

Amazon provides more services than XBL.

Remember, peer to peer networking is not a service.

It is your choice to continue being ripped off, but don't lecture me about what it costs to run a service.

PSN has 150+ dedicated servers for games.

XBL has very few.

Would you rather blab on the mic or have a lag free connection.

I know what's more valuable to me.

Ok, well call me the day when the ONLY FEATURE of XBL is playing games online. Perhaps I'll agree with you.

And if you can provide a source for your numbers that'd be nice too.