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[QUOTE="WhoaNellie32"]this is the reason why ppl love UT and CS. its the replay value will always be there because of the MP aspect of it. which is why i have been playing warhawk over bioshock. bioshock is good for hte 2-3times beating it. but after that what is there left to do? where Warhawk the replay is always there regardless how many times you play it. just like UT and CS.This discussion reminds me a lot of myelf when maybe six years ago I bought Weezer's Green album and Tool's Lateralus that coincidently both came out on the same day, and both of which I was highly anticipating. From the onset, I was immediately drawn to Weezer's album because it was catchier, lighter, and easier to "get into." However, after the initial novely wore off of the weezer album after a few weeks I realized that although Lateralus wasn't as easy to just pick up and listen to as Weezer initially was, the lasting impact and overall quality of Tool's album was drastically better. Lateralus was an epic sit-down-and-appreciate musical journey that required time and appreciation, and Weezer was cheap popcorn pop.
I feel thats exactly the way Bioshock and Warhawk can be differentiated as (they are really two different genres too, just as Tool and Weezer are). Bioshock will go down as an epic game that will sit high in the eyes of people's memories as a genuine classic for this generation, while although Warhawk may be very fun in its wn right, won't garner that same sort of appreciation because unfortunately not enough is really there. However, with all respect to the PS3, if it doesn't start putting out credible games Warhawk may very well be known as a PS3 classic simply due to that which it is being judged along the likes of Lair and Motorstorm.
These games both just came out. I may be right, I may be wrong, but Bioshock just seems like one of those rare quality all-around meticulous effort games where talented developers gave their blood, sweat, and tears into making this game as good as they possibly could. Warhawk is fun now, but do you honestly think it will stand the test of time?
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I see what you're saying, but I guess I'm speaking in terms of what the overall better game is and how in retrospect these games will be viewed upon the gaming community many years from now. Is Warhawk a classic? Only time will tell, but it is pretty evident that Bioshock is an epic game. While not having the replay value of a constantly changing multi-player game such as Warhawk, the impact and resonating nostalgia the game elicits in others will determine the true quality of these games. I can have crazy fun playing the very simplest and greatest replay-value-laden games on my computer to pass the time at work day in and day out, but I think in my mind though I may play more Snood than Zelda, Zelda most definitely garners a greater appreciation with me when I think of past gaing experiences than Snood (I'm not comparing Snood and Warhawk, but the concept is the same.) Many many people consider Zeld: OoT as one of the very best games of all time. After playing through that game maybe once or twice more after beating it the first time what is there after it? I don't know, probably not much, but I'm sure as hell not going to pawn it for $5 at Gamespot-that games was epic and while I was in the midst of playing it it was one of the single-greatest gaming experiences of my life. You just can't put a price or downplay that sort of nostalgia.
This discussion reminds me a lot of myelf when maybe six years ago I bought Weezer's Green album and Tool's Lateralus that coincidently both came out on the same day, and both of which I was highly anticipating. From the onset, I was immediately drawn to Weezer's album because it was catchier, lighter, and easier to "get into." However, after the initial novely wore off of the weezer album after a few weeks I realized that although Lateralus wasn't as easy to just pick up and listen to as Weezer initially was, the lasting impact and overall quality of Tool's album was drastically better. Lateralus was an epic sit-down-and-appreciate musical journey that required time and appreciation, and Weezer was cheap popcorn pop.
I feel thats exactly the way Bioshock and Warhawk can be differentiated as (they are really two different genres too, just as Tool and Weezer are). Bioshock will go down as an epic game that will sit high in the eyes of people's memories as a genuine classic for this generation, while although Warhawk may be very fun in its wn right, won't garner that same sort of appreciation because unfortunately not enough is really there. However, with all respect to the PS3, if it doesn't start putting out credible games Warhawk may very well be known as a PS3 classic simply due to that which it is being judged along the likes of Lair and Motorstorm.
These games both just came out. I may be right, I may be wrong, but Bioshock just seems like one of those rare quality all-around meticulous effort games where talented developers gave their blood, sweat, and tears into making this game as good as they possibly could. Warhawk is fun now, but do you honestly think it will stand the test of time?
If you're a longtime SEGA fan as you claim, then your knowledge of the company is seriously lacking.[QUOTE="WhoaNellie32"]As a longtime Sega fan I too share your frustration with the utter lack of effort and ingenuity Sega has displayed since exiting the console market. The company seems yo be on a steady downhill slide into mediocrity for the past few years, but with that said, Nights isn't out yet and I still have some faith (however unfounded it may seem in light of their recent track record...) or hope for a better word this game will be a quality title. Condemned was actually pretty good, a diamond in the rough for Sega lately, lets hope Nights will be one too.Panzer_Zwei
After SEGA left the console market they put out such games like Jet Set Radio Future, Panzer Dragoon Orta, Shinobi, Astro Boy Omega Factor, Macross, Virtua Fighter 4, Initial D etc. those games alone null your whole statement.
Even now they've released great games like Virtua Fighter 5, Virtua Tennis 3, Ryu Ga Gotoku 2, Medieval 2, and published great games like Condemned and Crush. and their upcoming games like SEGA Rally Revo look amazing. Yet for some reason people here only talk about Sonic this Sonic that, since all they want is somone or something to bash freely.
So as I longtime SEGA fan myself, I find those kind of views ranging on the laughable.
Whoa, I upset this guy...let me guess, this guys a Sega fan...? I'm not gonna mess with him....his Sega-ness is crazy.Â
Look, while I doubt I share or ever did share the enthusiasm and knowledge you so proudly have of Sega I have to disagree with you- to a point. I guess what I meant to say is that the quality of their games has been on a downward slope for the past few years-subsequently around, approximately, give or take, estimating to the best of my ability the time they left the console market. They've had some good games, no doubt, and quite a few they put out on the XBOX were really great (but save for Orta, weren't most of them originall DC games...? Don't quote me on that. Sega dude will tear me limb from limb if I'm wrong...), but it just seems now-a-days they seem more interested in making a deadline or making moeny off an established franchise with a less-than-stellar effort. The consistency Sega was so well-known for seems to not be there anymore.
I remember reading a few reviews on VF5, and Virtua Tennis where the reviewers outwardly complained over the lack of innovation put into properly progressing the series. Were they good games? Yeah, I guess they were. Were they all they could have been given Sega's track record of putting in the time and effort necessary in creating an amazing stand-the-test-of-time game? I don't think so... But the Sega I used to know, granted , not as much as you... but the Sega of old that I remember had to fight tooth and claw against the rabid competetion to support their hardware by putting quality, innovative, and AA, AAA titles. Maybe the overall quality of their developing teams has decreased in recent times, I don't know, but it seems that the Sega that used to have to support their systems sometimes seemingly by themselves with quality innovative amazing titles no longer exists.
i assure you will have more luck if you put this topic in general gaming discussionKiuk
fair enough. will do.
However... I must admit I am by no means an afficianado in regards to handhelds... Its true, I haven't really been into handhelds since the game gear... and even that didn't really hold my forth grade attention back in the day... I have always just really been into consoles I guess.
In any case, I went to Best Buy with my girlfriend the other day and I casually mentioned to her that I would really like a Nintendo DS or PSP for my upcoming birthday to have with me before I soon travel to Europe for a month. I wasn't even that serious about it, I was more expecting her predictable "Pssssh! Don't you have enough video games!?!", but to my surprise she was really open to the idea (she usually is not a fan my playing video games, so her acceptance to this idea was shocking...she doesn't discourage me from playing them or anything, she just thinks I'm a dork, which is obviously true, haha.) In any case, there isn't anything else I really want for my birthday in the price range she was willing to spend so I was very open to the idea of trying the handheld experience again, and hey, I have to take advantage of this incredible momentary lapse of judgement from my girlfriend before she changes her mind...
So I guess the obvious question is which is the overall better choice for me? I am pretty much a newcomer when it comes to handhelds, I like a wide array of games for the most part but doubt I will ever really "get into" a handheld game for a LONG period of time because it just seems so uncomfortable (but who knows, I may be wrong and end up falling in love with playing deeper games on a handheld. Right now more accessible "pick up and play" games seems like more of a fit for me, however), graphics are really not a big factor in swaying my decision, I am the type of person who rarely uses multi-media functions with even my consoles, so I doubt I'd use any of them on my handheld for anything BUT games. I guess on the surface the DS makes the most sense, but when I go to check out the games at Gamestop most of them seem so kiddy or shallow like "Hannah Montana's Malibu Adventure" and stuff like that. But PSP doesn't seem to have the greatest selection either...The X factor in all this is I have a sneaking suspicion my girlfriend will buy Nintendogs for herself if she buys me a DS...this possibility frightens me..."Honey, could you turn off your game for a second, I have to make sure I gave my Dalmation enough water before his nap..." (I'm assuming that game is like some glorified Tomagotchi...)
Anyway, I appreciate you guys reading this ridiculously long post, and I will no doubt do some research on my own as to game selection, AAA titles, battery life, what best suites my own interests, etc., but I more importantaly value the opinions and feedback of real gamers, my peers, who have had real experiences with the games and the handhelds. Most importantly, I have to make this decision before my girlfriend comes to and realizes what shes doing...
Oh, and not that it matters, because I'm getting one regardless, but is it a problem with charging it up in Europe if the handheld I get is American? Is there something I can purchase that will convert the adapter from American to European standrads...? I'm clueless with that sort of stuff.
Thanks again!
If I even bother tofeel the slightest inclination of curiousity as towhat game sold more I will seriously do some serious introspection after realizing my priorities in life are completely out of whack....
are you joking?
I'll wake up and go about my life the same way I always do.
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