Hopefully because they're still trying to improve it. I doubt it though. One thing's for sure though, ya won't see the kind of improvements this article is talking about:

http://wccftech.com/rumormicrosoft-xbox-possibly-feature-discrete-gpu-core-stacked-main-soc/

An additional 2304 to 2560 stream processors? LMMAO. Somebody else drinking the misterxmedia kool-aid. :D

Hey, I'd be more than happy with an additional 400-600 gflops. At least that would put it at parity with PS4. But chances against it getting even that are like 99.99% and what was in that link has 0% chance.

Not preordering anything. They tend to not be worth buying until the second year or so.

[QUOTE="navyguy21"]Cows hope it fails, but it will be fine. Cows (and analysts) said the same about 360......and WiiFreedomFreeLife

Now everyone, analysts says that Wii U will do horrible, and here are results, it is doing horrible.

Xbox One wont flop, but it will sell less than Xbox 360, but more than Wii U.

Sony takes 50% market, Micrososft 30%, Nintendo 20%

Considering that Wii U is doing this horribly against X360 and PS3 I don't think it will end up with even 20% of the next-gen market. More like 10%-15%.

I'm sure there's plenty of Sony fanboys that would like it to flop but I don't think very many of them truly believe it'll do as poorly as Wii U.

Most guys at boards like this one view it entirely by sales. But that's not how the companies look at it. Sure, ya might sell 100 million consoles but if you lost a billion dollars in the process that is a terrible failure but gamers might view it as a huge success. Sony lost huge sums of cash on PS3 and MS made only marginal profits on 360. Both were business failures, PS3 more of a business catastrophe. That's why we're getting cheap, outdated hardware from both companies this time. Nintendo, however, almost always turns a profit on their stuff.

I get why y'all are excited about free games with PSN+. For consumer's it's great but from a business perspective it leaves me scratching my head. If you're selling your system for a loss (Albeit a small loss this time) and in order to make money it has to come from software then why give so much software away? The way it's sounding I might buy a PS4, subscribe to PSN+, and then never buy a single game. Just play all the free stuff you get with PSN+. If I were to do that I'd actually cost Sony money, not make them any. Wow, no wonder they're so far in the red.

Sony is truly over delivering on value because they are the only company that cares about gamers. #ThankYouSony

NathanDrakeSwag

Lmmao. Are you 8 yo?

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I don't understand the hype for the PS4... I was expecting the PS4 to be dripping with exclusives, but it has about 3 exclusives, none worth buying. Anyone tell me why the PS4 is any good?

AHUGECAT

I think a part of it is the hardware. A lot of people tend to make light of that but people do care which machine games will look better on. 500-600 gflops is a pretty big difference for two consoles launching at the same time. And because they have similar architectures it's easier this time for people to understand the difference on paper between the two. Xbox One being weaker is all over the web and surely even many of the casuals have heard by now. Anyway, I don't see how it could be the games cuz what Sony has shown for PS4 so far hasn't looked all that fantastic to me. I'm yet to see a truly killer-app on PS4 like Titanfall is for Xbox One.

The issue is that hardware has never mattered before. PS2 was weaker than the GameCube and Xbox, Wii was weaker than Xbox 360 and PS3, PS1 was weaker than N64, etc. etc.

The main problem is that MS completely utterly botched the reveal, and Sony took advantage. The problem with that is MS patched up their mistakes, and Sony has done nothing else. Their entire E3 wasn't about the PS4 or games, but about Sony sticking it to MS. Sony had a chance to start revealing some games but did not.

Sony should have kept Kingdom Hearts or Metal Gear Solid as an exclusive, or something, because Sony looks completely lost game wise. Like you said, MS has shown some really cool stuff. I guess it isn't about the games anymore. Sad.

Some of those systems you mentioned didn't launch at the same time. When you've got one console coming a year after another you expect a power difference. It's considered acceptable then. But when they come out in the same month and are in the same price-range you don't expect one to be 33%-50% weaker than the other.

I don't understand the hype for the PS4... I was expecting the PS4 to be dripping with exclusives, but it has about 3 exclusives, none worth buying. Anyone tell me why the PS4 is any good?

AHUGECAT

I think a part of it is the hardware. A lot of people tend to make light of that but people do care which machine games will look better on. 500-600 gflops is a pretty big difference for two consoles launching at the same time. And because they have similar architectures it's easier this time for people to understand the difference on paper between the two. Xbox One being weaker is all over the web and surely even many of the casuals have heard by now. Anyway, I don't see how it could be the games cuz what Sony has shown for PS4 so far hasn't looked all that fantastic to me. I'm yet to see a truly killer-app on PS4 like Titanfall is for Xbox One.

http://www.gamespot.com/pax/microsoft-xbox-one-is-worth-100-more-than-playstation-4-6413908/

The Xbox One will be $100 more than the PlayStation 4 and $200 more than the Wii U this holiday season, but Microsoft is not stressing over its stance as the most expensive console.

"Its up to us to prove that its worth $100 more. I think it is," senior director of product planning and management at Xbox Albert Penello told GameSpot today at PAX Prime in Seattle, Washington.

Penello said the suite of games and services Microsoft is offering with the Xbox One is stronger than the competition.

"I think we do more. I think our games are better. I think as people start to experience Kinect and see what it can do using voice, I think thats better," he added. "I think the ability to have an all-in-one system where you can plug in the TV, thats better. I think well have a better online service."

"I just believe that were going to have a better system."

Ultimately, consumers want to buy the "best thing," Penello said. The Xbox One's stance as the most premium console this holiday season won't hold it back, he argued.

"$100, when youre talking $400 vs. $500 [shrugs shoulders]. I dont believe its going to be the deal-killer," he said.

Seems like perfect fodder for system wars to me. :)