Well, I agree with the idea presented in this thread. 4k resolution is absolutely not important for gaming, it's actually a waste of resources. But good framerate is hugely important.

Pfft, getting a little burned out on threads obsessing over the way games look rather than how they play.

Actually 4k is 4x 1080p. 4k is 8 million pixels vs 2 million for 1080p. Nearly all films available for 4k blu ray, I'd estimate it's in the neighborhood of 90% of them, are 2k upscaled to 4k ... which disappointed the hell out of me when I found out about it. It ain't the format's fault. It's cuz Hollywood has been cheap and lazy and is mastering most of its films at 2k. So 2k is as sharp a resolution as the films exist in. Which brings me to another point: Ya had all these people watching Mad Max on a giant theater screen at only 2k resolution and they were fine with it yet there's all these gamers that claim their games must be 4k on their considerably smaller screens or shit, the universe might explode. Mad Max (And a huge slew of other films shot and/or finished digitally) looked fine to people because the vast majority didn't know what they were looking at was 2k upscaled to 4k. But tell them it and suddenly they'll start claiming that it looks bad, lol. A lot of this resolution stuff is in peoples' heads. PC gamers are the most hilarious when it comes to this stuff. A lot of the pretentious things they say, "I can spot a pixel from 2,000 yards!", are facepalm inducing. Sadly those sorts are winning the argument though (Look at the insanity happening on phones. Anything higher than 1080p on a damned phone is flat out moronic!) and it looks like Scorpio's awesome power is gonna be wasted on insane resolutions that will look no different to most people in most situations (But they'll claim to see the difference, of course) instead of dedicating it to better framerate and art, which 100% of people would actually notice.

Castlevania ... easily.

Well, considering that almost none of the so-called UHD blu rays for 4K blu ray are actually 4k either why not? If Hollywood can upscale and call it 4k why not video games?

Well, I played The Last of Us and Uncharted trilogy on PS4. They were remastered PS3 games and they were awesome.

The thing that's always bothered me about MS's approach to exclusives is that they seem to judge the success of each exclusive on its own rather than taking a broader perspective and considering the good lots of them do for their platform as a whole. What I mean by that is if you're an exclusive on Xbox and you average maybe 8s for reviews and sell say 800,000 - 1,000,000 copies MS will consider you a failure and it's very unlikely you are contacted for a sequel or another project. Unless you achieve crazy success, like 3 million sold, MS pulls the plug on you. They want megahits and nothing else. With expectations that high it's pretty hard to have a lot of exclusive franchises. It's even harder for the ones you do have to vary much in genre/theme/content, etc. I like Sony's approach better. They have lots of exclusive games that achieve moderate success. Although each individual one might not be setting the world on fire collectively they strengthen the appeal of the platform. Look, an exclusive that is critically praised (And yes, averaging 80 at Metacritic counts as a favorable nod from critics imo) but doesn't sell much still helps you. So long as it isn't losing money I don't see what the problem is. Although it might not have printed cash for you all on its own having a lot of them does cause you to sell more consoles. Ya get more street cred from having 20 exclusive games that sold 750,000 copies each than you do just 1 exclusive game that sold 5 million. I wish MS would realize that.

I mentioned it in another thread but I wonder how many people don't realize that barely any movies made today are even in 4k. Most of the films you see nowadays on those giant screens in the theater are 2k upscaled to 4k. And in turn almost everything on 4k blu ray is 2k upscaled to 4k. Since going largely digital Hollywood works in 2k 90% of the time cuz it's cheaper and easier and hardly anyone notices. Yet gaming is not only going to do native 4k but in real time? I just think it's a huge waste of resources. Native 4k is just not that important. Buttery smooth framerate is a lot more so.

I think it would be pretty dumb if they actually do it that way. Yeah, it'll do 4k but if ya make everything native 4k framerates are gonna suck. Almost nothing on 4k blu ray is even native 4k. Nearly all movies on uhd blu ray are actually 2k upscaled to 4k. If ya don't believe me check out the reviews for them at bluray.com. So even Hollywood doesn't bother with true 4k much of the time. I'm a lot more interested in seeing games on Scorpio run at 60 fps then I am 4k.

Uhh, cuz maybe you don't game on pc ... which is, y'know, most people.