I'm surprised they didn't go all in like this with the One. They have Windows money.

The 360 and PS3 were “future-proofed” with their high-end internals and it was only towards the very end of their 10-year cycles that compromises such as sub-native resolutions and 20-25 FPS framerates became the norm rather than the exception.Read more at

http://gamingbolt.com/how-powerful-is-ps4-neo-really#Kjsioz1XytHEJMbl.99

lol this guy is crazy,this guy is simple out of touch with reality,ever since launch the xbox 360 and PS3 struggle with resolution and frames.in fact PDZ was sub 720p on launch,games like Oblivion again sub 720p,many other on PS3 as well,to claim that by the end of their 10 year cycle is that compromises were make is a joke,COD has being sub 720p on both PS3 and 360 since 2006,the only 720p one was COD 2 on launch,many other games were sub 720p was well that dude was on a different generation to the one i was.

Using Ashes of singularity is even worse,as he claim that because the game demands a i5 that would be a problem,when Quantum Break also demand an i5 minimum yet it runs on a jaguar on XBO. Then he bring draw calls as being the issue apparently he doesn't know that console had never had problems with draw calls it was PC the ones with draw calls issues which mantle and DX12 resolve.

Supposedly is not the same CPU but Zen based.

Not only the witcher looks better but i dare say is more optimised. I am playing the game on an ancient 7850 on a mix of medium high settings with hbao and it runs on a locked 30fps at all times

The NEO has CPU bottleneck from what I've read it will flop

You need to understand when some one is saying something just to make a point,i am not saying scorpio will be delay,i am just countering Blackace argument abotu a Neo delay with the same made up argument,i wasn't implying Scorpio will be delay but simple trolling Blackace who claim neo could be delay.

Well that is IF the 6TF is true which by comment it doesn't appear to be the case 4X the xbox one is 5.2 TF not 6TF,and MS does have a tendency to over sell their specs just like they did with the xbox one vs the 360 which they claim is 10 times the difference.

Nintendo are only coming out with a new console because the Wii U flopped aren't they?

This. when I buy a console, I expect to have the best that company is offering for the rest of the gen. I didn't lay down £400 so a few years later they can come out with a new one just because they weren't happy with it.

Nah, I'm not falling for this again. Only console I'll consider is the NX, because I doubt Nintendo will do the upgrade thing.

I don't mind upgrading my PC, with maybe this part or that every 2 or 3 years, because I do so much on it, that it's worth it. But just on a gaming machine, no, that's not me.

First party line up for either console is larger enough. We see Uncharted 4 only sold 2.7 million when Sony says 40 million people bought a PS4.

Most of those people i bet bought it because it had the power advantage and the right price.

Scorpio outperforms the NEO and its the same price it will win i bet money on it now.