@SolidTy: Thanks for the info. Will keep an eye on the cross buy titles from the other systems. I guess that after a while this will build up quite a bit as I see I've already missed about 60 free games on PS4.

I've been saying this forever. DX12 will probably improve X1, the degree to which it will is the debatable part. But Sony will improve tools on PS4 as well. Both companies will keep improving system tools throughout the generation and the gap will likely remain the same. There's no getting around having 6 less GPU compute units than your competitor.

Well, I don't have PS3 or Vita so I won't be getting any of those ones. I don't care for multiplayer games, almost never play them. Really I just signed up to PS+ for the game collection. Guess ya gotta wait a while for the purchase to be worth it. There's definitely nothing "instant" about it.

So I just got a subscription for PS+ and after looking around for a few minutes I sure feel underwhelmed. It looks like I just payed $50 to be able to play Super Meat Boy. This is the famed instant game collection?! I haven't owned a Sony console since PS1 and back then there was no PSN so I'm totally new to this network. I hadn't known that PS+ games get removed almost as quickly as they get put up. Do they also get removed from your console when they remove them from the service? I was looking around on this page ...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Instant_Game_Collection_games_%28North_America%29

... and noticed on the bottom there's a few games with no listing for date removed but I searched for one of them on PSN, Super Time Force Ultra, and it was $15 so either I'm not doing something right or that page isn't up to date.

Besides online multiplayer and my $50 rental of the $15 Super Meat Boy (No thanks to Broken Age, looks lame) is there any benefits to PS+ that I'm missing? I don't know, I just thought something called "Instant game collection" was gonna "instantly" have more than this. Looks like I might have to be subscribed for a while for it to become worth it.

Edit: OK, looked up some things. I guess that you can keep playing em after they get removed from the service. I think what bugs me is the name more than anything. This is absolutely NOT an "instant game collection." It's a "stay subscribed long enough and eventually this will build into a game collection."

The X1 framerate will probably get fixed at some point. This game keeps jumping around from one patch to the next. It improves, then gets worse, then improves, etc. Who knows, they might end up screwing up the PS4 version's framerate again before all is said and done.

Damage control? Lol, like I give a shit. I bought a PS4 yesterday and was playing Uncharted on it like 10 minutes ago. I've ordered Witcher 3 for it but don't have it yet cuz it's back-ordered at Amazon. What motivation do I have to spurn the system just for the hell of it? And again with your "CPU bound" nonsense. You keep claiming that I and others say that but you are the only person I've seen use the phrase ... and like 100X now. Look Einstein, a game doesn't have to be "CPU bound" for devs to have problems with the CPUs in either of these consoles because the CPUs in both of them are absolute shit. And again, neither you nor I know what CDR tweaked to get it running better. You can climb up onto your soapbox and claim to know all you want but you don't.

I think it's already been pretty well established that MS ain't really into doing that. Everybody was predicting they'd be buying studios like crazy when they came into the console biz but it just ain't happened. They've bought a few here and there but way, way below the kind of spending people were predicting. Talented people are what make great companies great and often the talent quits after an acquisition. I think MS realizes that and it's why they don't buy many studios.

You also get this pissed when someone buys a different TV or car stereo than you do?

I know Crackdown 3 is gonna use it and it looks pretty cool in that game. Bad thing is it seems this is only going to be a thing in multiplayer games.