But Halo is a proven series The order was not,so how can you fu** 4 games which average between all is 90% or better.?

Ask MS...hahahahaaaa

@Juub1990 said:

@commander said:

Enjoy your 1080p slideshows.

Hey be nice now. I take offense to that. I recently sold off my 970 and replaced it with my old 7850. Run games at 1080p/30fps. Still funny 99% of my games run and look better than on consoles with a mid-range GPU from 2012 though.

This has nothing to do with the gpu in the ps4

Can't believe lemmings are acting like mad max is a graphics king contender in this thread.

That's when you know you've reached rock bottom, lol.

Meanwhile xbone has the worst version of MGS V.

@Wickerman777: Then why does the PS4 win 90% of the faceoffs?

It has a 150mhz advantage and an extra core. The extra core is what is important, not the slightly higher clock speed. In games where there is proper core scaling that makes heavy use of multi-threading, Xbox One should have an advantage.

The memory structure also isn't cumbersome. The 32MB of eSRAM is simply too small an amount to work with. GDDR5 is blazing fast but has high latency. DDR3 is much slower but has lower latency. They're designed to do different things. That's why PC's don't use GDDR5 for everyday apps. Microsoft is also dumb because DDR3's bandwidth is tiny compared to GDDR5. These are VIDEO game consoles. Microsoft should have simply added a dedicated 2GB of VRAM instead of using what is traditionally system RAM for their video applications.

I also agreed the GPU disparity was bigger but the X1 still has a CPU advantage.

Not necessarily. An RTS like Civilization would probably run better on the X1 than on the PS4.

Must be Gamespot? There's other sites to. IGN - Forza 5 nominees :

http://www.ign.com/videos/2013/12/17/2013-xbox-one-game-of-the-year-nominees

BAFTA - FM 5 award : http://www.imdb.com/title/tt3359066/awardsAnd so on...

But who gives a shit about 79% game on metacritic. Hey, PCARS is 80%, who gives a shit about that game. Right? Just shut up, man. Be sure that PCARS will be nominated somewhere. I will send you a sticker : "you're an dumbass!"

To be fair he is right on both accounts. Forza does hold a 79% on Metacritic and most racing games are far more dependent on the CPU than on the GPU. Project Cars seems to be an exception though.

Damn! I mean, damn! Forza 5 was GOTY canditate on some sites. But hey, game is 79% on Metacritic, dude. All racing sims are CPU heavy, all of them ( driving physics etc.. ) But that bolded part. What a dumbass.

The ps4 has a stronger gpu than the xboxone but it's bottlenecked by the slower cpu and the operating system that eats up more cpu resources than the xboxone as well. The xboxone has 24 percent more cpu resources available because of this (10 percent overclock and 14 percent because of a 7th core that's partially availabe for games). In a cpu bottlenecking scenario that will result in lower framerates on teh ps4, if the bottleneck is too big, the ps4 will need to use gpgpu tools to counter this.

Worst case scenario is ac unity, where the ps4 runs at the same resolution and detail settings and still has worse framerates, even after numerous optimizations through patches after release.