Nothing works as good as in theory or in ideals. The often ugly reality of how politics get worked out is just one testament to this. It also spreads to economics, business, education, social circles, and just about anything that involves interaction between people. But even understanding fiscal or monetary policy and the appropriate effect differing policies would have is very difficult. In general, economics is affected by an unknowable amount of different variables that shift constantly, and feedback on whether policies are working or not is very much after the fact and prone to confounding variables. Political haze in such matters is not only merely fueled by politicians with agendas; it's also because the "real" situation is always very unclear. Refer to Harry Truman's joke about the one armed/handed economist for modern context.
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I'm more interested in hearing more about the elaborate tunnels they discovered beneath his compound. This man has had so many personal projects at the cost of who knows what it's not even funny.
It's going great....for OUR government. This whole thing is just a puppet show anyway. Syria will follow suit, as well as other surrounding countries so that we can create a pipeline without these countries having to get a cut of the $$$.
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oldschool12790
Sounds just like the bs I've heard about Afghanistan's pipeline :|.
But the leader's hardly ever do. Saddam hid in a spider hole, Osama in a compound, Hitler in a bunker (at first after he killed himself, Nazi propagandists claimed he died fighting the Soviets).[QUOTE="wis3boi"]
the war is boring, i was expecting the man himself to stand on his compound and fire a pistol at incoming waves of rebels and nato jets :(
whipassmt
"He uses others as his weapons. So do all great leaders, if they are wise"
Come to think of it, I can't think of any head of state or leader of a nation who was killed in action during a war by the enemy. At least not in the course of modern warfare.
Well he could be there and they just don't know yet. I'm not saying he won't be captured, I just think he is out of the country. Also there is a chance Venezuela is keeping him safe. Well if cared that much about his family, would he leave his sons in Tripoli while he runs off somewhere else?[QUOTE="jetpower3"]Like I said last time, Tunisia will not likely take him, unless the government there is oblivious to him taking refuge there. Same thing with Algeria (the Libyan embassy has just defected to the rebels). And even if the man is elusive, it is highly unlikely his sons will follow him easily (too many people leaving too much of a trail). I think killing or capturing a number of his sons will be enough of a blow for him to get the picture (he is said to care deeply for his family, regardless of his firebrand image).
sherman-tank1
If he goes to Venezuela, that is much too far away to have any influence on the situation and he might as well concede defeat if he did. And at least two of his sons (Saif al Islam and Khamis) were in Tripoli as of two days ago, so I doubt they could have gotten that far quickly, unless they are taking the southern route of Tripoli through Bani Walid (or the supposedly secret tunnel network).
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Can some one fill me in on what the rebels plans are, why they are doing this, and why is Gaddafi being targeted and on the run?
jonathant5
Isn't it obvious? Gaddafi has had absolute power ruling Libya for just under 42 years, and the rebels want him out. They have now taken most of the capital, and he as a result is on the run.
Yeah essentially that, although I seriously doubt that the rebel leadership will be any better than Ghadaffi's, but that remains to be seen.Even half-hearted attempts at developing political institutions are better than none at all. No one man should have as much power for as long as Gaddafi did.
Can some one fill me in on what the rebels plans are, why they are doing this, and why is Gaddafi being targeted and on the run?
Papadrach
Isn't it obvious? Gaddafi has had absolute power ruling Libya for just under 42 years, and the rebels want him out. They have now taken most of the capital, and he as a result is on the run.
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[QUOTE="sherman-tank1"]I highly doubt he is stupid enough to stay in Sirte. Sabha perhaps, but I'm thinking he is already out of the country.
sherman-tank1
But where would he go then? If he is too far from Libya, sooner or later he is going to have to admit defeat.
I'm guessing Tunisia or Algeria. I'm pretty sure if he is indeed sane he knows he can not win, and once he is defeated he will probably just vanish completely. Maybe some day he will be tried, but he won't admit defeat.Like I said last time, Tunisia will not likely take him, unless the government there is oblivious to him taking refuge there. Same thing with Algeria (the Libyan embassy has just defected to the rebels). And even if the man is elusive, it is highly unlikely his sons will follow him easily (too many people leaving too much of a trail). I think killing or capturing a number of his sons will be enough of a blow for him to get the picture (he is said to care deeply for his family, regardless of his firebrand image).
I highly doubt he is stupid enough to stay in Sirte. Sabha perhaps, but I'm thinking he is already out of the country.[QUOTE="jetpower3"]
I'm guessing Gaddafi is on his way south, toward Sabha or Sirte. I doubt he would stay in Tripoli where loyalists only control a few neighborhoods and a park.
sherman-tank1
But where would he go then? If he is too far from Libya, sooner or later he is going to have to admit defeat. He won't be welcome in Egypt, Sudan, Tunisia, Chad, or even Algeria (the embassy recently defected). The only hope he has is to dwell within the porous border regions of Chad or Niger, but those places aren't exactly hospitable to even people like Gaddafi.
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