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Like I said, its the cheapest 4K Bluray player in the market. Feel sorry for all the 4K Bluray player makers. MS just pwned them all.

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@stoneproof: Can you believe she put the Laguna scene on her list before the outer space scene!?! What game was she playing? FF VIII was about the love between Squall and Rinoa, not Laguna and his boyband crew.

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@luert: Blah blah blah, I was distracted by Laguna's Ekin Cheng haircut.

No, honestly I don't remember Laguna at all. The outer space scene had me teary eyed, maybe it was the Wong Faye soundtrack, maybe it was the fact that Squall and Rinao had such great romantic chemistry, maybe it was the fact that Gravity hadn't ripped the scene off yet, but two lovers desperately trying to reach each other while floating in space is infinitely more heart wrenching then some paper cut out animesque story of an obvious Ekin Cheng knock off character.

Hell, Laguna was so irrelevant that his face wasn't even on the cover of the game. I could barely remember Laguna as a character, not to mention his convoluted plot arc. But that outer space scene, I'll remember forever.

My favorite Final Fantasy game is VIII because its main theme is love, and if you don't put the outer space scene in there, you've missed the whole point of FF VIII in my opinion.

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Wait wait what? All those cheesy moments, and no outerspace scene from Final Fantasy VIII? Laguna and his cheesy girlfriend gets #2 and Final Fantasy tactics gets #1? WTF I barely even remember who Laguna was, and the only thing I remember about FF Tactics is Thundergod Cid carried two swords.

C'mon Leonhart and his girl Rinoa floating in outerspace trying to reach each other with Wong Faye music. Thats the most heart wrenching moment in the history of Final Fantasy. Not to mention FF VIII was also the most romantic game of the franchise.

Maybe white people have a different interpretation of touching than Asians. I don't know. Laguna #2 really?

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@RCT4ShouldExist: I already own a PS4, I was never gonna buy the Neo cause its shit. I was planning on looking into getting a Scorpio based on the price point, if its cheap, I was planning on getting one. But then I realized that 6 teraflops just barely does 4K, so I said hey, I might as well just go all in and go pure 4K which is why I started looking into a true 4K machine.

I haven't built a beast in a long time, so I have been getting itchy fingers, this machine is designed to last me for a hell of a long time.

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@RCT4ShouldExist: I'm interested in maxed out benchmarks, as I stated originally in my first post.

A no compromise TRUE 4K machine at consistent 60fps and max settings. That's the machine I was building, I don't know what you want, but it sure isn't what I'm going for.

For me I'm either turning on all the settings to max at 4K or I'm not gonna bother playing in 4K.

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@RCT4ShouldExist: And hence I never said I'd get 128gb ram. I said I'll 32gb for now, and if I need more I'll upgrade. The mobo supports 128gb, but I'm getting the board not for the ram but for the hexacore setup which I already explained is what DX12 was designed for, better threading.

And I explained that this machine is designed for clean consistent 60fps 4K. not barely running 4K with some settings turned off.

This machines is designed to run true 4K at 60p, with max settings.

If you just want barely 4K, barely supporting all next gen games, barely doing VR, and barely hitting 30fps, of course you can slap a cheap GTX 1070 into any old PC and get those results. But that's not the goal of this system.

"true 4K gaming, and was shocked at the actual cost of a real legit 4K machine that can do 4K at over 60fps consistent."

What part of that do you not understand, or maybe you were not reading, but making up conclusions in your mind.

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@RCT4ShouldExist: Einstein, benchmarks state no Single non Sli GPU setup can do consistent 60fps at 4K, Sli 1070 is the minimum to keep a sustained 70+ fps mark. That's why its Sli.

Also when I spend hard earned money on anything I plan for the future, that's includes, a house, a car, a wife lol, etc, etc, etc.

I don't buy things that are outdated, that includes Quadcore machines. If I open my wallet I buy whats the best and most realistically future proof to my knowledge again to my knowledge.

DX 12 is thread driven, which means more cores, more performance, whether or not that pans out as devs start making new 4K games is not up to me, but since this IS a 4K machine, I purchase based on what it will run, NOT what it can barely run today.

Benchmarks prove over and over again, that a single 1080 can barely sustain 45-50fps in 4K, which explains why I'm getting 1070 Sli, which benchmarks place at 70-75fps for most current 4K games.

Obviously you're just a PC noob pretending to know shit, since you know jack squat about what I pointed out. All your suggestions of price cutting adds up to be about 300 dollars. LOL Great fcking price cutting bro, choose the cheapest parts and try to find cheaper parts. Yeah fcking great idea, lets save some money and drop from a 260 dollar 1TB SSD to a 130 dollar 250gb ssd, lets save 20 bucks on the case, cause we all know how cases are super expensive, and lets get rid of the state of the art x99 Mobo and stick with some last gen quadcore crap that's literally like 80 dollars cheaper.

You know don't shit about building a powerful PC.

Your suggestion pretty much rounds up to lets get all the shittiest last generation parts and hope it can do 4K at 30fps on todays games, maybe.

Man STFU and get outta here.

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@RCT4ShouldExist: DX12 is designed to take advantage of threading, so why the hell would I spend my hard earned money getting an outdated quadcore, when the architecture itself is being phased out. Hexacore is the new norm so the CPU has be X99, as for ram, why on gods Earth would I get any system that's got 8 slots and only stick a cheap 8gb of ram inside that i'll end up throwing out 2 years from now, my laptop that I use to surf the web has 8Gb of ram. I'm building this for all future 4K games, and VR, so 8gb is not even close to being enough.

As for 1TB SSD, that thing only costs about 260, even If I threw the SSD out the window, I'd still be only saving what 150 bucks on a cheaper smaller SSD.

As for the case at 220, how much you really gonna save on a cheap case that is designed for Sli, 60 bucks, 50 bucks, big deal. Who gives a fck, I'd rather get the case that I want.

Even if I threw out both the 1TB SSD, the X99 Mobo and the and the 1 stick of 16 gb ram, I'd be saving what? A few hundred bucks tops.

So where are your magical savings coming from? Your ASS? You sound like you've never built a PC in your life, bro. Seriously where the hell are your magical savings coming from? All the shit that you mentioned don't amount to more than 300 dollars in savings tops, and I'm losing my 1TB SSD so now I got settle for shit load and install times. You sound like you're talking outta ur ass.

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@seanwil545: If I wanted to overbuild a PC I would get Octocore i7 Extreme. 6800k i7 is the lowest Hexacore available in the Gen 6 line of CPUs. Why would I get a brand new PC and not go for X99 when everything is moving towards X99.

That Asus was the cheapest X99 mobo and the 6800k is the cheapest X99 Hexacore.

Yes you can get 1x16, but nobody sells them at 1 pieces anymore, they all come bundled in 2x minimum. Plus you save like 30 bucks buying 1 piece 16gb ram.

Bluray Drives can cost as cheap as 60 dollars, big difference of 30 you save on a cheap brand Bluray drive.

A good case prevents overheating and can save you money in the long run, lets say I get a cheaper case, that's like what 30 bucks I can save, woo big wup, 30 bones.

And why would I get a 4K system and run all my games off of HDD? I need 1 TB SDD cause I have 1TB of games, simple as that. Plus that 1TB drive was like 260 bucks, that's very very cheap. So, its not the big money item.

Assuming I replace all those parts that you were saying were overkill, I save like 150-200 bucks tops, that not much difference.

OVERBUILD I don't think so.

This is the cheapest consistent 4K 60fps machine I could muster. I could have easily gone Sli Dual GTX 1080, and i7 Octocore Extreme Edition if I truly wanted over build.