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Wow looks like Hexen on Sega Saturn, dear lord that was bad.

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@Slannmage: Console gaming has never been about chasing the latest tech craze. SNES, Genesis, PlayStation 1, and PlayStation 2, even PS3, were all left behind the curve at some point in the life cycle.

It's always been about having one unchanging platform for devs to create games on. At the end of SNES's life cycle, it was so old and outdated it wasn't even funny.

If chasing the newest tech is your thing, really PC is where its at. I also like new things which is why I also game on PC at times.

Really every single console ever made was left behind mid to late life cycle, but it didn't matter.

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@xzerocarnagex: Sounds good on paper, but in reality when you consolidate everything into one distribution point and have games being released on PC and Console via the same source, you get piracy on mass.

WIndows 10 can be easily hacked, XB1 cannot, the same game being released across both platforms, would result in people flooding to the Windows version because the OS is open to piracy. In the end you lose sales on both ends.

You can sell games if all your hardware had the same security, but Win 10 and XB1 are day and night. One is near impossible to hack, the other is completely open to hacking.

So, and XB1 exclusive comes out on XB1 and Win 10, same day. Which one are people gonna get, the hacked Windows version or the XB1 version? I would choose free every time.

That's why unifying everything under Win 10 Store is a bad idea. You end up cannibalizing XB1 sales from your less secure Win 10 PC.

That is why no one has ever been able to unify both PC and Console EVER. Because one platform cannibalizes the other, and one platform is less secure than the other.

Its a nice dream, but until the PC can become ironclad in security, which is never since its designed to be user driven OS. It will never work.

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@lostn: That's where you are wrong, there are millions of Louis Cha RPGs on Android in China. People are tired of it.

They want to see a high budget Louis Chat RPG that looks like a AAA game. They are sick of the cheap low budget crap. China wants a Condor Hero game that looks like Final Fantasy in full high def photorealistic 3D, with a massive budget.

A game like that would be the first of its kind, and would bet a system seller in China. Lots of people in China have money, they just need a reason for go and buy a PS4 or XB1, they need a Chinese exclusive system seller.

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@ditronus: Problem is SALES.

A home PC running Windows 10 is much more vulnerable to hacking then an XB1 running an secure OS. Once you try to consolidate the software from PC to Console under one roof, you risk losing both sales. Because now the same game exist on two platforms one easier to crack than the other. So in the long run, more people will end up playing the cracked free version on PC than pay for the XB1 version. And when devs see sales loss from Win 10 releases, they will be less likely to want to cross release a title on MS Store.

Sounds noble a unified PC and Console market, but due to the nature of PC vs Console, it is not practical. That's why Steam exists. MS will learn this in time.

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@ditronus: Yes, exactly, that is why domestic game developers are crucial to growing the console industry.

9 of 10 Chinese people don't give a flying hoot about Final Fantasy but give them a Louis Cha Fantasy RPG like Condor Heroes and you'll see the sales numbers rise.

Wanna break into China and India, local devs are where its at.

Exclusive AAA Mandarin "Legend of Condor Heroes" RPG on PS4 or XB1 could easily become the highest selling console game of all time.

Now that's global economy.

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@mikemurphy80: Your logic makes no sense, because the PC will always be the better alternative given your idea of 2-3 year upgrade cycle. Why, would I even bother payng MS for more expensive games and paying MS for their overpriced upgrades, when I can do it myself and pay less on games.

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@BLiTZ_156: Yeah, but if I'm expected to spend more money upgrading an console like XB1 which really have no exclusives that are not already on PC, why would I wanna even bother getting an XB1.

The only exclusives that are not on PC, are from Sony, so I might as well get a PS4 and just play any game that are cross-plat on PC, it's a lot cheaper.

As for player base, most nowadays have consolidated base between console and PC, but even it didn't I can play the PS4 version. Why would I get an XB1 when it has to be upgraded for a decent experience.

I much rather just upgrade my PC instead, at least that way I spend less on games.

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@fastharrydotcom: Xbox branding? LOL What does that even mean?

Sony brands everything with the PlayStation Logo, and Nintendo brands everything with Nintendo, so what?

MS is trying to do something that they believe to be very clever, but in the long run, it's not.

They are trying to consolidate both PC and Console software sales into one single unit, aka MS Store. They want everything to run on Windows 10, including XB1, and they want everything to be sold via MS Store across all their MS Branded devices.

Sadly, that won't fly, because of cross compatibility issues, hardware restrictions, and network restriction globally. A game purchased on 1 PC may not run properly on another PC, a game purchased on 1 Console, my run poorly on another Console due to future upgrades, and neither PC nor Console games will run on MS Phones.

In the end you are left with a jack of all trades and a king of none. In trying to consolidate all software under one roof, they will create a cannibalization of software sales. I.E Where was once 2 sales, now becomes 1, and where was once 1 sale now becomes none. For example the Windows 10 architecture is a lot less secure than the XB1s O.S. Now given that an exclusive to XB1 will now also appear on Win 10, it will make it 100 times easier to exploit the Win 10 to get the game for free, killing what would have been an XB1 sale.

When you wanna sell everything on everything, you sell nothing on anything.

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@fastharrydotcom: I don't follow.

The goal is to sell the most consoles. That's it. Everything else is conjecture.