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#1 mont13
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"What your post means is that #24 put up more points in less time than MJ ever did"

My post means exactly what I said, I would give Kobe the edge on offense over MJ and Kobe is the best scorer ever. I have never seen a guy hit so many high degree of difficulty shots in someone(s) grill before and I've been watching pro ball since ABA days. Kobe just got his own team 2 years ago. They are the youngest in the league, and have had major injuries, but people expect the Lakers to contend, it takes time!, yet they are above 500, and with the exception of last night...KOBE IS STRAIGHT KILLIN' BOYS !!!!!! Enjoy Kobe's play and stop comparing him to MJ. Kobe has unbelievable talent !!!!

You force me to point out the truth about MJ. You can be considered the best and still be overated as MJ is !

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[QUOTE="SouthernBBaller"]

 Man, I don't know how some of y'all can call a player like Kobe Bryant overrated. He's the best scorer in the world, and gives it all he's got every game. Bryant should be an inspirational figure for the kids.

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You must not remember the game last year (maybe the year before) where Kobe was believed to have intentionally not taken hardly any shots and the team lost, I don't even remember if he took a shot in the half. That game came shortly after he was CRITICIZED by Phil Jackson for not getting his team involved and taking too many shots (something Jackson has stated many times) and Kobe instead of going with the coache's words and simply just taking a few less shots and distributing the ball more simply decided he was not going to shoot at all. He of course denied tanking the game when he was asked about it, but what do you think he was going to say. At the time I thought it was almost as bad as when Scottie Pippen refused to enter the game at the end because the last play was not designed for him (does anyone remember that). I'm not a big fan of selfish players.

By the way MJ also had a game when he was criticized for shooting too much. He went out and tanked the next game by not shooting, trying to make a selfish point! Again what you hate in Kobe you love in MJ .

 

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If your not a big fan of selfish players you can't be a fan of MJ who was the most selfish player ever, bar none! People only remember the good about MJ not the bad. There is so much mis-information about MJ its sickening.  

MJ's 1st few years he was labeled as a great, but selfish talent who didn't get his teammates involved, shot too much, would never win a title, clashed with his teammates and coach Doug Collins(who ended up getting fired), punched Steve Kerr in face during a practice session, had issues with Horace Grant who was glad to go to Orlando even after 3 rings(feeling MJ treated him less than a man).......

Even in his better team oriented years he was selfish. If any one had a good game on him, the next time he would make sure to teach them a lesson by taking more shots to rack up points. He could have been passing to teammates but he had selfish motivated vendetta's against other players. Even if they won most of those games it still was selfish. He took away from his teammates chance to shine in order to make a selfish point. No other player is known for selfish payback as much as MJ. By the way MJ did not make his teammates better, more next time on that.

Face it, what you love in MJ you hate in Kobe.

  Any fair minded person seeing Kobe in sit down interviews can see he has matured his last few years, but you can't even give him that. He gets along with his team, follows the coaches lead... he only went on a scoring binge because the coach asked him to and the team needed it. For him not to would have been selfish and against the team. He's averaging 5.4 assists, (good for a 2 guard), MJ's career assists is 5.3.

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 Each time period has its rules that offer advantages/disadvantages. For example zone defenses make it tougher to get to the basket for today's players.

Thats one reason its tough unfair to compare era's.

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MJ has better career numbers only because he came into the league on a weak team so he played "starters' minutes right away.

Kobe came in from high school to a good/established team that did not need to play a rookie big minutes, therefore he did not put up big numbers.

I'd give MJ the edge on defense, but Kobe on offense. Kobe has better range on his J and is the BEST SCORER EVER, including Wilt, considering the variety of ways he can score. Wilt was a giant amongst midgets of course he set scoring records.

MJ's top 4 scoring games(69,64,63,61) came in OT's, one was in 2ot's. Kobe dropped 81 in regulation time and most of his other big games were in regulation. Kobe got 81 on 46 shots, MJ got 64 on 49 shots(in ot).

GIVE KOBE HIS PROPS !!