the first card for me was an s3 pro savage and playing midtown madness was fun with it

the gpu automatically underclocks during idle.my idle temps are 47C and my load temps at crysis warhead are 70C.anyway i live in a hot country(india).by the way my idle clocks are 220/250mhz.did you overclock you 2d/3d idle clocks.

i was just trying to prove a point and sorry if it had been a little harsh.anyway rivatuner will not work because hd 4650 mobility is not yet supported.all you can do is change brightness and screen res.

you will get above 20k in 3dmark06.maybe 16000 in 3dmark vantage

hey i have the same sony vaio laptop with a better processor(doesnt matter in 3dmark mostly).you could easily get abou 7500 points(which i got) by overclocking to 625\800 or to a perfectly stable 600\800 or 575\800.and hey geordilaforge dont disappoint persons coming with low 3dmark scores by comparing with your old athlon and voltmodded 7900gt(which you did to me).and notebook ati hd 4650 is the same as the desktop hd 4650 with lower clocks.desktop clocks are 600\800 and my clocks are above that.and i use gputool from techpowerup(community technology preview 1) as mostly sony's ati drivers dont work with ati gpu tool.google it and download it.it is the easiest software to overclock.dont go too much as you will mostly get blue screens while loading games.i went upo 750\850 and got 5.8 in vista performance index.but cant play any games simply for fun.600\800 is the safest clock for hd 4650.you should get above 7000 points in 3d mark. and mobility hd 4650 is better than a voltmodded 7900gt

gtx 275 is not equal to hd 5870

what is the highest temp i could go for a notebook gpu and is 64-69 at load normal?

ok guys just found the perfect combination of 675/800.i got a few bsods with 700/850.ran 3d mark and got a score of 7700 which is about2k greater than my score of 5850 at the default clock.no issues of temp so far except a 1 or 2 degree increase in the idle temperature

guys i just overclocked my gpu(in my sig) from its default clock

default core clock:450mhz overclocked core:700mhz gpu temp:64-69c

default mem clock:550mhz overclocked mem:850mhz

what do you guys think of this overclock

led does not make a big difference in laptops.yes it may be slightly power saving.but toshiba is a well known company and they make their own parts.toshiba is the way to go with athlon 2 and amd vision and that nice battery