i don't know about top 5. i think top 20 will be more like it if they are lucky. They will lose both their top WR's Young and Pettis to the NFL, and i would be shocked if Kellen Moore comes back. This is their best year in terms of talent on their roster. He might as well leave on top. He'd have nothing to come back for. That's just their offense. I'm not even taking into account the defensive players that will either graduate or enter early. They are a good program but they aren't USC, Ohio St, Alabama, Oklahoma, etc. where they just have a plethera of blue chip skill players waiting for their turn.

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To quote the great Bert Sugar a few months back "Floyd isn't scared of Pacquiao, he's scared of losing his perfect record" (sorry,I don't have a link to that quote). The question is, in this case, aren't those 2 the same thing?

DJ_Magneto

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i didn't watch this match and i'm only slightly familiar with boxing. so lemme ask you this - is it safe to say that Pac, by claiming a record 8th weight class title, is now the world's best pound for pound boxer alive and also one of the best ever lived, even without fighting and winning Mayweather? this statement has actually been voiced by the media and i'd like to hear what you think.

DJ_Magneto

side note. that mayweather fight aint happening. By the time floyd will be "ready" to fight him Manny will be long retired and focused on more important things

To quote the great Bert Sugar a few months back "Floyd isn't scared of Pacquiao, he's scared of losing his perfect record" (sorry,I don't have a link to that quote). The question is, in this case, aren't those 2 the same thing?

You really made this post after the FIRST half of the FIRST game of the season. Wow someone is bitter

Durant. Lebron will be sharing the spotlight too much and kobe's mvp days are behind him.

As far as "Greatness" (but this is really hard, waaay too much to oconsider):

1) Jabbar/Russell

2) Wilt/Jordan

3) Magic

4) Bird/Kobe

5) Oscar

But as far as 2 guards go, I'd put Kobe = with MJ.......yeah I said it! I already had Kobe as a better offensive player than Jordan but behind him in defense. But some of you have finally convinced me on what a GREAT ADVANTAGE "hand-checking" is. So I'm sure if Kobe could hand check on defense he would be as good as MJ was.

Yo, sixringz, ready for the continuation of the "Laker Reign of Terror!", aka NBA season?

mont13

I guess this 6 ringz due is going to interrupt my sleep tonight. Nah, Gervin and David Thompson had a similar battle both great scorers, when their teams were "trying" to get them the ball to score as many as possible to win the scoring title. Neither cracked 80 let alone 100.

Your in the big leagues now homie ...step up ya game!;) later.

mont13

Madsen...hummm, ok nahhh.

But I think I gave good reason to take Magic, nothing to do with a dislike of MJ, even said I would take magic over Kobe:shock:

I'd take Magic.

• Magic would be the one to play within the team concept immediately.
• Magic has the more unigue combination of size and talent, and can play more positions if need be.
• I believe his will to win was as strong as Jordan's

Jordan is not a "wrong" choice either, but he would be more likely to clash with teammates, kill and eat all challengers to him being the "Alpha Male" on the team, thus disrupting team chemistry, until management got the right mix of players around him with the skill and personality to deal with Jordan's brand of IRON FIST "leadership"...... come on fella's ...I joke......a little;)

But I would take my chances with Magic, I think the return on investment would be faster.

BTW, I'd start a team with Magic over Kobe too.

mont13