I have no problem with fighting or talking smack in practice. That's in the middle of competition it's nothing personal. I'm talking about the early years when Kobe would isolate himself from everyone on the roster, and many players on that team thought poorly of how he carried himself in relation to his teammates. They thought he had a "more holy than thou" type attitude. I don't feel like researching article links so don't ask me to. lol. Collins was fired for the same reason Carlisle was fired in Detroit and Tony Dungy was fired from the Tampa Bay Buccaners. He had peaked. He couldn't get them over the hump. Any issues he had w/ Jordan weren't the reason he got fired. Jordan takning a game? You are the only one on here that seems to consistantly have some clue about what they are talking about and that alone gives u SOME credibility on that one, but by far not enough. I need some proof on that one cause you are the first person in the 20+ years i have been watching basketball, to say that. As for cheating on his wife. As bad as this is gonna sound. I have no prob w/ that because it comes w/ the territory. The women who marry professional athletes aren't idiots. They are aware of this. Jordan wasn't the first, and he won't be the last. Infidelity is morally wrong but not legaly, but you said that. By no means am i proclaiming Jordan or any other athlete as the ideal person, but i never recall MJ playing the whole "perfect husband role" after games. All lovey dovey w/ them in front of the cameras. Sure MJ would embrace his loved ones from time to time, but it seems like Kobe is putting on a show cause the cameras are on him. And MJ's issues with teammates were all bball related. Everyone got along with each other to some extent off the court. That was not the case for Kobe in his first few years (the bald head, taking Brandy to the prom days. lol).sixringz, oh no you didn't!....dis my boy Kobe ;) You see Kobe as a fraud? Do you see Michael Jordan as a fraud also. MJ had "issues" with his teammates too, including punching a couple of them, verbal abuse, tanking a game(yep), problems with his coach who was fired(Collins)...etc. MJ also paid a woman to keep quiet about an affair. Not comparing that to Kobe's "alleged rape", but it's not quite respectable behavior either.
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i wouldn't take GTAIV over ANY of the PS2 games. Especially Vice City and SA. GTAIV was just not fun to me like those were
[QUOTE="MoonMarvel"][QUOTE="Bauers-Twin"] haha agreed it was lame and pointless. Besides Lebron > Kobe. give Lebron a movie, he is less of an a hole, never cheated on his wife (not that he has one), never got accused of rape, and is better to begin with.Bauers-TwinLebron is married and has at least 1 kid. Also that rape charge was a lie she was just trying to get some bucks. No reason to hate a man over 1 mistake and a lie. you dont just get accused and even getting accused should tarnish him, thats just a position you as a professional don't let yourself get into. And whos to say that was Kobe's first incident.I don't think he raped her, but i took a handfull of criminal justice and law classes in college and one thing i distinctly remember is that a case, especially a serious case against a highly recognizable individual, does not go to trial unless they have a SUBSTANTIAL AMOUNT OF EVIDENCE. So he definitely shouldn't be let off the hook even if there was a settlement. If i would have just started watching bball the past few years kobe would be the ideal guy to look up to. But knowing everything i do about him off the court (rape case and snitching on shaq) and the problems he had w/ his teammates during his earlier years (and not just shaq), it's hard for me to look at the guy asanything but a fraud. Maybe what you see today really is him. A devoted husband, a good teammate. It's possible. But justwhen you give him the benefit of the doubt he gets caught on tape blasting Andrew Bynum to some guys in a parking lot. Saying how he sucksand he didn't know what Kupcheck was thinking not trading him for Kidd.Whether he was right or not (which he wasn't by the way), when you have a rep as a bad teammate to begin with, andur trying to change that, those are the things that prevent you from getting the benefit of the doubt.From my experience a leopard doesn't change its stripes
popular franchises are system sellers. Games that trancsend more than the video game community but go into pop culture (ie, Mario, Zelda, Halo, FF, GT, etc). As much as i loved Uncharted, in fact it's my fav game this gen, it doesn't have the mass appeal to be a system seller. It's not even in the same breath in terms of popularity as MGS, which has more of a niche fan base and doesn't have the crossover appeal as the beforementioned games. I hope your right it would be nice, but i doubt it. One thing i don't doubt is that the game will be great whether or not it's a system seller. Naughty Dog, IMO, is the most consistant developing team out there. They haven't put out anything short of great for 15 yrs.
[QUOTE="X360PS3AMD05"]I'm just going to assume ahugecat doesn't really believe what he says, he just does it for comic relief. yokofox33
Yeah, I've come to this realization as well. It's still fun to argue with his "facts" though because they are just so ludicrous.
He's the Skip Bayless of GamespotDid anybody else watch the film? I thought it was alright. I didn't know it was going to be him talking about only one game. I was hoping it would be more of his life outside the game too. It was interesting to hear what is going on in his head during a game though. Bruin4ev3r1520Yea i was dissapointed. I thought it would be more behind the scenes of his life not basketball. And even if it was just bball, i thought it would cover more than one game. Oh well, that's spike lee for you. The man hasn't directed anything worthwile for damn near a decade. He has Jordan biography coming out next year. As much as those two have been intertwined w/ each other i would like to think that would be good, but i'm not banking on it.
Wow you mustnot have started playing video games til the PS era or something, cause anybody who grew up on the NES and played those games when they were NEW, can list you 20 games off the top of their head thatblew their mind. Games like SMBIII, Legend of Zelda, Mike Tyson's Punch Out, Contra,Tecmo Super Bowl, are still considered some of the best games in their genre in the history of video games. And those are just a few, there are countless moreJust because NES was the first major gaming machine doesn'\t make it more influential than the Playstation.Face it, games on the NES were not innocavtiveand most of them really sucked, it wasn't until the PS that games became better and more frequent. PS2 is argubly the best system ever in terms of number of quality games. The same can not be said for any other machine to date.
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I guess cause the first one was a new franchise that not too many people knew what to think, so the hype wasn't as high, but the first game caught a lot of heat on this board. There were people like me who thought it was the best game they'd played up to that point, but there were a lot of people, including gamespot who gave it an 8.0, when its avg on game rankings is nearly 90%, that were bashing this game left and right. Now all the sudden everybody is coming out of the woodwork saying how much they want this game. Even after the first game had been out for a while you never saw that type of overall hype on this board. Why is that?
I mentioned this in another thread but the more I think about it, didn't the Celtics go through something similar last year when they went 7 games with the Hawks? And this was with KG! Also, they were criticized for not being the real thing, being overrated, and not championship material. But what happened? They went on to win the whole thing. This just gives me some hope for the Lakers. I hope Lakers are going through the same thing the Celtics went through last year. In other words, don't rule out the Lakers yet...they could still go all the way. The series with the Nuggets will either show that the Lakers are who they are or they'll become the Lost Aggressiveness Flakers! ASK_StoryIf this was the Lakers first go around i would buy that. Last year with the Celtics it was a new team that although they had the whole "regular" season, they had not played together in the playoffs. Sure Pierce, Garnett and Allen had playoff experience but not together. Then you had your starting PG and Center who were completely inexperienced. The problem with the Lakers is that this is the EXACT SAME ROSTER as last year (actually they are even better because they are 100% healthy), and this team marched through the Western Conf last year and then got walloped in the Finals. It seemed like they were on a mission last year in the playoffs. I don't feel like looking it up, but i don't think the lakers had a series more than 5 games last year in the playoffs (excluding finals). How good they were playing was why they were nearly 2 to 1 favorites to win the title despite the fact they didn't have homecourt (trust me i remember the odds cause i bet on LA). It just seems that ever since the finals they haven't recovered that drive that got them to the finals last year in the first place. They coasted through the Western Conf this year because it was down. The Spurs were old and hurt, Phoenix fell off the map, New Orleans regressed dramatically. The overall competition wasn't the same this year like last. You combine that with their finals performance they just don't seem to have "IT" thus far. Now i'm not one of those people who say they FOR SURE aren't going to win it all. I don't THINK they will, but at the same time it wouldn't shock me if they right the ship because they have more talent than any other team, all they need is the consistant effort to go w/ it and they'd be fine. Like i said, if this was their first time through the playoffs i could buy the whole "Celtics went 7 games in series and than got it together" argument. But for a team to be going through the battle a second time in as many years, you normally don't see teams regress, which is what "appears" to be happening. But we'll see
[QUOTE="sixringz1"][QUOTE="MoonMarvel"] I will not layoff Phil. He isn't caoching well this series or playoffs. He is allowing Kobe to chuck up shots when he should be passing and that LOL Rockets LOL feeling is his fault for not keeping the Lakers egos in check. Face it, he isn't as good as he used to be. Time for Phil to retire. MoonMarvelWhat is this "allowing Kobe to shoot so much", like Kobe is some kind of puppet and phil pulls his string. That may work with Jordan Farmar or Luke Walton, but not Kobe. This is a players league, and more importantly a superstar driven league. Phil Jackson can diagram plays he can tell the players what he wants, but at the end of the day it is up to the players to perform. Phil can't go out and play the game himself. At some point the players need to take a look in the mirror because this is 2 years in a row that they have had the most talented team in the league. They choked last year, and although i'm not officially ruling them out this year, they look like they've regressed this year. And i know Kobe Bryant is GOD to all you Laker lovers but if they choke AGAIN it will be ON HIM. He is the leader of this team and it is his responsability to have his teammates play up to their ability. Elite players don't let their team, WITH SUPERIOR TALENT, lose in the playoffs - PERIOD. There's a reason Jordan is 6-6 in the finals. He wouldn't let his team lose. Like i said, Phil is the coach and can call plays and substitute players, but at the end of the day it is up to the players to perform up to their ability, and thus far the Lakers haven't. With that being said, I'd be STUNNED if they don't win game 7 by double digits Here we go again. Listen, Phil runs the offense thru Kobe and that is a FACT! Don't deny it. Before PJ got there MJ was a ballhog and would pass until Phil made him, why did Phil get MJ to pass and not Kobe? Hmmmmm. Nah, thats not Phil letting Kobe doing as he pleases. Listen, Phil is the coach and at the end of the day the day they HAVE to do what Phil wants. Mello knows this, he didn't listen to his coach and got benched, Phil doesn't have the guts to do this to Kobe. This is Phils team not yours or Kobes, it HIS job to create a winning strategy, proper rotations, bench unperforming players, run offense thru different people aka Rockets thru Yao, prepare players, keep team egos in check. And AT THE END OF THE DAY he isn't doing this. Don't shield Phil for not doing his damn job! And WRONG! This isn't on Kobe, its a TEAM sport, you win and lose as one. PERIOD. No one player can prevent their team from losing, Jordan didn't do it and neither can Kobe. For a TEAM to win a TEAM needs to play well as a UNIT, and LA doesn't do that and no matter what Kobe does it won't help. Period. What is with all this Phil Love and he can do no wrong? Jeez.actually i couldn't care less about Phil. It's just amazing how last year everything was perfect up until the finals. Kobe was this great teammate who did everything right and phil was once again looking like a genious. Now a year later things aren't looking sogood and it's ALL PHIL'S FAULT. And i hate to break it to you but if they lose you can count on kobe getting more blame than any of his other teammates because he is the "superstar" and the supposed "leader" of this team. You said it in your own post. In order "for a TEAM to win a TEAM needs to play well as a UNIT". Phil Jackson is not the be all end all to this teams success, no coach is. The players play, coaches coach. It's up to the players to make the shots. My question to you is why does kobe get off the hook. Some how it's Phil's fault that Kobe is shooting all the time. Somehow it's Phil's fault that Kobe won't pass. Explain how that is Phil's fault. If Kobe is this GREAT PLAYER shouldn't he know what to do in order to be effective? Do you really think someone of his "supposed greatness" needs instructions in order to make the proper play. If that's the case that says more about the ALL MIGHTY KOBE BRYANT than it does about Phil
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