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[QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Education on the subject doesn't matter? And it wouldn't matter in a debate? I'm curious...how does one successfully debate with no knowledge of a subject? Pick fights with people who also don't know anything about the subject. Like I said, you don't need to be an expert in religion to find a contradiction in someone's argument. Besides, no education means no FORMAL education, so it's not like I have NO knowledge. If you would notice the importance of this, I would thank you by encouraging you to see a debate, such as your local model united nations assembly.[QUOTE="unholymight"]
I have no education on this subject. But, I don't see how it would matter as long as my logic is sound. Actually, it wouldn't matter in a debate behind a podium.
Welkabonz
[QUOTE="unholymight"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]Education on the subject doesn't matter? And it wouldn't matter in a debate? I'm curious...how does one successfully debate with no knowledge of a subject?No formal education doesn't mean I don't know enough to see some flaws otherwise other unsound kinks in your logic.LJS9502_basic
If someone is stating facts....how do you purpose to find unsound logic?
First, on gamespot, always check if the fact actually relates to what you're debating. Then check if the other poster got your meaning in your previous post. Estimate the validity of the fact, use Internet if necessary. Check the probability of existing counter-facts. There you go. Just some things you can do in your spare time, LOL.Well you showed that it can occur in areas that don't have Christianity. But showing that does not yet prove that it cannot exist in areas where there is also Christianity. Wikipedia says slavery lasted longer than that here; into the 1700s. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indian_slavery Also, you have not established that it was indeed specifically Christianity that ended slavery, not the common sense of the people.[QUOTE="unholymight"][QUOTE="Xx_Hopeless_xX"]
But not your view that it was under Christian watch...also..slavery of the indigenous people of America was abolished by a Christian priest in the 1500's..
Xx_Hopeless_xX
"New Laws of the Indies in 1542, in which Emperor Charles V declared free allNative American slaves," Wikipedia...
But, this does not show that it was specifically his fear of being damned to Hell that caused Charles V to make the decision, instead of other likely reasons such as wanting to demonstrate nobility for his followers, a philosophical viewpoint that all should have freedom, or even a general sympathy for the natives.Education on the subject doesn't matter? And it wouldn't matter in a debate? I'm curious...how does one successfully debate with no knowledge of a subject? No formal education doesn't mean I don't know enough to see some flaws otherwise other unsound kinks in your logic.[QUOTE="unholymight"]
I have no education on this subject. But, I don't see how it would matter as long as my logic is sound. Actually, it wouldn't matter in a debate behind a podium.
LJS9502_basic
[QUOTE="unholymight"][QUOTE="LJS9502_basic"]And that would be what specifically?LJS9502_basicI have answers to all your posts, but I fear for what will happen to me if I reply to them. You fear? Of course. Fear is interesting. It puts spice on food.
The fact that slavery arose on Christianity's watch would show that Christianity provided little, if any, effective resistance against slavery.[QUOTE="unholymight"][QUOTE="VigilanteArtist"]
The movement to abolish slavery was largely based on Christian ideals. For example, the Republican Party was founded by anti-slavery activists in the 1850s and used churches as networks to gain and influence voters. Slavery was considered a sin. Of course, there were hypocritical Christians in the 1800s too.
VigilanteArtist
Christianity (and Christians) had a huge impact on the abolishment of slavery in the USA. And I'm saying that as an athiest! It's not my opinion, it's fact. Many important figures in the movement (such as Harriet Beecher Stowe and John Brown) were Christians who used their beliefs as a means to influence and oppose slavery. Abraham Lincoln, although religiously ambiguous, was a member of the Republican party which, as I stated above, used religion to progress the anti-slavery movement.
And I have to ask-- What is the extent of your education as far as this subject is concerned?
Posting this again because I'd still like a response.
Let me quote what the original poster said:
"It was only until Christianity's influence that slavery was abolished. You can talk about serfdom all you want, but it still isn't the same principal as slavery."
He said that Christianity was the only thing that contributed to the abolishment of slavery. I was challenging this view. Although you have named many Christians who opposed slavery, any other factor that is not specifically Christian in origin that contributed to the abolishment of slavery could be something I can use against your argument.
[QUOTE="unholymight"]wrong the bible never says this, but keep on talking about what you hear. Yes, my bad. I meant to say Christianity said the Earth was the center of the universe, and defended this view strongly against someone with a different view like Galileo. Also, all I said was that Christianity advocated this view at some time, I don't need to say the Bible said it, since we were discussing Christianity as a whole, taking into account its history and previous actions of its supporters.Christianity once said the Earth was flat, and kept anyone from proving this wrong (Galileo). This attitude towards science and observable evidence alone would say something about that.
caseypayne69
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