Dem. lawmaker: To get gun control, Obama must exploit shooting

I'm a 6' 5" , 255 lbs black guy myself. I'm not scare because of your size, I'm scared because you think hot lead flying through objects is something to find fun in.

I'm a 6' 5" , 255 lbs black guy myself. I'm not scare because of your size, I'm scared because you think hot lead flying through objects is something to find fun in.

Yusuke420

[QUOTE="Yusuke420"]

I'm a 6' 5" , 255 lbs black guy myself. I'm not scare because of your size, I'm scared because you think hot lead flying through objects is something to find fun in.

xscrapzx

I'm a 6' 5" , 255 lbs black guy myself. I'm not scare because of your size, I'm scared because you think hot lead flying through objects is something to find fun in.

Yusuke420

[QUOTE="xscrapzx"][QUOTE="Yusuke420"]

I'm a 6' 5" , 255 lbs black guy myself. I'm not scare because of your size, I'm scared because you think hot lead flying through objects is something to find fun in.

Yusuke420

[QUOTE="Yusuke420"]

I'm a 6' 5" , 255 lbs black guy myself. I'm not scare because of your size, I'm scared because you think hot lead flying through objects is something to find fun in.

warbmxjohn

[QUOTE="warbmxjohn"][QUOTE="Yusuke420"]

I'm a 6' 5" , 255 lbs black guy myself. I'm not scare because of your size, I'm scared because you think hot lead flying through objects is something to find fun in.

Yusuke420

Police response 5 minutes minimum, responsible gun owner response time 5 seconds. I favor the second one when I think about the safety of my loved ones and myself of course. In regards to the question about you ever even shooting a gun, don't condemn the potential fun one may find in an activity just because you do not favor it. A fitting example is: (it should be safe to assume you like video games - gamespot) many people find the rising interest in video games disturbing, especially violent games. So don't be too quick to write someone off who can enjoy the FUN there is to be had in sport shooting. Shooting can be exhilarating and fun, if everyone who enjoyed shooting was a killer we would all be dead long ago.

I'm a 6' 5" , 255 lbs black guy myself. I'm not scare because of your size, I'm scared because you think hot lead flying through objects is something to find fun in.

Yusuke420

Did you add that part in to be extra scary?

[QUOTE="Yusuke420"]

I'm a 6' 5" , 255 lbs black guy myself. I'm not scare because of your size, I'm scared because you think hot lead flying through objects is something to find fun in.

hartsickdiscipl

Did you add that part in to be extra scary?

I think this is what it comes down to for a lot of gun owners and in a situation with a home invastion, that's a totally viable situation. However, you must admit that there is a contengent that will run to get a gun if they feel they will lose in a fair fight. This reminds me of a quote from the movie Friday.

"Everyone's so quick to pick up a gun, and scared to take an a$$ whoopin, you win some, you lose some, but you live, you live to fight another day"

I'm a 6' 5" , 255 lbs black guy myself. I'm not scare because of your size, I'm scared because you think hot lead flying through objects is something to find fun in.

Yusuke420

How do you propose to remove the weapons that are in the hands of criminals and gangs?

[QUOTE="Yusuke420"]

I'm a 6' 5" , 255 lbs black guy myself. I'm not scare because of your size, I'm scared because you think hot lead flying through objects is something to find fun in.

WhiteKnight77

How do you propose to remove the weapons that are in the hands of criminals and gangs?

I think this is what it comes down to for a lot of gun owners and in a situation with a home invastion, that's a totally viable situation. However, you must admit that there is a contengent that will run to get a gun if they feel they will lose in a fair fight. This reminds me of a quote from the movie Friday.

"Everyone's so quick to pick up a gun, and scared to take an a$$ whoopin, you win some, you lose some, but you live, you live to fight another day"

Yusuke420

[QUOTE="Yusuke420"]I think this is what it comes down to for a lot of gun owners and in a situation with a home invastion, that's a totally viable situation. However, you must admit that there is a contengent that will run to get a gun if they feel they will lose in a fair fight. This reminds me of a quote from the movie Friday.

"Everyone's so quick to pick up a gun, and scared to take an a$$ whoopin, you win some, you lose some, but you live, you live to fight another day"

warbmxjohn

[QUOTE="warbmxjohn"]

[QUOTE="Yusuke420"]I think this is what it comes down to for a lot of gun owners and in a situation with a home invastion, that's a totally viable situation. However, you must admit that there is a contengent that will run to get a gun if they feel they will lose in a fair fight. This reminds me of a quote from the movie Friday.

"Everyone's so quick to pick up a gun, and scared to take an a$$ whoopin, you win some, you lose some, but you live, you live to fight another day"

Yusuke420

Damn that's sad it has to be that way, when I was growing up in LA, the convience store had a bulletproof cubicle for the cashier to take money through a tiny slot.

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[QUOTE="Yusuke420"]

I'm a 6' 5" , 255 lbs black guy myself. I'm not scare because of your size, I'm scared because you think hot lead flying through objects is something to find fun in.

Yusuke420

How do you propose to remove the weapons that are in the hands of criminals and gangs?

That doesn't take the weapons out of the hands of criminals. Until those weapons break or run out of ammo, they will still be utile. That means attacks and killings can still take place, nor does it address other implements that can be used as weapons in their stead.

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[QUOTE="WhiteKnight77"]

How do you propose to remove the weapons that are in the hands of criminals and gangs?

WhiteKnight77

That doesn't take the weapons out of the hands of criminals. Until those weapons break or run out of ammo, they will still be utile. That means attacks and killings can still take place, nor does it address other implements that can be used as weapons in their stead.

[QUOTE="o0squishy0o"]I would love to see a logical argument on why any average person needs an M16 or even a gun in their daily lives.WhiteKnight77

The regular Joe Gun Owner that lives down the street from you cannot own an M16 without jumping through a ton of hoops and filling out miles of paperwork and paying a rather large sum just to obtain a license that allows him to own fully automatic weapons such as your aforementioned M16. There are weapons out there that may look like an M16 or other assault rifles, but they are not as they cannot be sold to civilians without special permits.

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[QUOTE="Yusuke420"]

I'm a 6' 5" , 255 lbs black guy myself. I'm not scare because of your size, I'm scared because you think hot lead flying through objects is something to find fun in.

Yusuke420

How do you propose to remove the weapons that are in the hands of criminals and gangs?

[QUOTE="WhiteKnight77"]

[QUOTE="Yusuke420"]

I'm a 6' 5" , 255 lbs black guy myself. I'm not scare because of your size, I'm scared because you think hot lead flying through objects is something to find fun in.

Yusuke420

How do you propose to remove the weapons that are in the hands of criminals and gangs?

It only takes a few bucks to make a gun out of Home Depot parts.

Look at how wide-spread meth manufacturing is, and that's actually somewhat complicated.

[QUOTE="WhiteKnight77"]

[QUOTE="o0squishy0o"]I would love to see a logical argument on why any average person needs an M16 or even a gun in their daily lives.LJS9502_basic

The regular Joe Gun Owner that lives down the street from you cannot own an M16 without jumping through a ton of hoops and filling out miles of paperwork and paying a rather large sum just to obtain a license that allows him to own fully automatic weapons such as your aforementioned M16. There are weapons out there that may look like an M16 or other assault rifles, but they are not as they cannot be sold to civilians without special permits.

The issue is mental illness not gun control. If you look at the decade where there were bans on certain weapons (90s) the number of deaths due to guns hasn't decreased since those laws expired. KC_Hokie

The issue is mental illness not gun control. If you look at the decade where there were bans on certain weapons (90s) the number of deaths due to guns hasn't decreased since those laws expired. KC_Hokie

[QUOTE="WhiteKnight77"]

[QUOTE="o0squishy0o"]I would love to see a logical argument on why any average person needs an M16 or even a gun in their daily lives.LJS9502_basic

The regular Joe Gun Owner that lives down the street from you cannot own an M16 without jumping through a ton of hoops and filling out miles of paperwork and paying a rather large sum just to obtain a license that allows him to own fully automatic weapons such as your aforementioned M16. There are weapons out there that may look like an M16 or other assault rifles, but they are not as they cannot be sold to civilians without special permits.

An M16 has the sear that lets it fire automatically (or in a 3 round burst) and therefore, civilians have to jump through those previously mentioned hoops. An AR-15 on the other hand does not have that sear and cannot be easily swapped in to make it into an automatic weapon, which in doing so, makes it illegal to own. That doesn't mean it hasn't been done, just that you are not supposed to do so.

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[QUOTE="Yusuke420"]For starters, stop the manufacturing of these weapons. You want to keep making them for the military, cool build a factory on the Pentagon's land and have MP's outta the ass. The same could be done for ammo, it'll take time but eventually without new weapons or ammo, those guns will either break without a replacement or be made useless because there is no ammo.

Yusuke420

That doesn't take the weapons out of the hands of criminals. Until those weapons break or run out of ammo, they will still be utile. That means attacks and killings can still take place, nor does it address other implements that can be used as weapons in their stead.

So, even with a ban in place that stops those who do not commit crimes from having weapons, we will still have gun releated assaults and killings until all those weapons break and or the ammo runs out. Yeah, really brilliant, many more innocent victims due to being unable to defend themselves. That is the problem with gun bans or overly strict gun laws, they don't do what people want them to do.

[QUOTE="KC_Hokie"]The issue is mental illness not gun control. If you look at the decade where there were bans on certain weapons (90s) the number of deaths due to guns hasn't decreased since those laws expired. Abbeten

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[QUOTE="KC_Hokie"]The issue is mental illness not gun control. If you look at the decade where there were bans on certain weapons (90s) the number of deaths due to guns hasn't decreased since those laws expired. dave123321

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/cuomo-working-tougher-gun-laws-state-article-1.1224026?localLinksEnabled=false

God fvcking damnit!

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/cuomo-working-tougher-gun-laws-state-article-1.1224026?localLinksEnabled=false

God fvcking damnit!

Ingenemployee

Even an assault weapons ban is pretty useless at this point. They can't take away the guns already in private hands. Look around or go to a local gun shop. AR-15s and high capicity magazines flew off the shelves the second the word assault weapons ban came out of the president's mouth. They are essentially banning something that is already sold out and unavailable for purchase. Its essentially like banning the xbox 360 after everyone who wants one already has one. My guess is there are enough weapons in private hands that the used market will be full of them for years to come. The only way to get those weapons back would be through a mandatorybuyback which will never happen because it would provoke such massive court battles and political divide.

Just my thoughts

Even an assault weapons ban is pretty useless at this point. They can't take away the guns already in private hands. Look around or go to a local gun shop. AR-15s and high capicity magazines flew off the shelves the second the word assault weapons ban came out of the president's mouth. They are essentially banning something that is already sold out and unavailable for purchase. Its essentially like banning the xbox 360 after everyone who wants one already has one. My guess is there are enough weapons in private hands that the used market will be full of them for years to come. The only way to get those weapons back would be through a mandatorybuyback which will never happen because it would provoke such massive court battles and political divide.

Just my thoughts

UnknownSniper65

[QUOTE="UnknownSniper65"]

Even an assault weapons ban is pretty useless at this point. They can't take away the guns already in private hands. Look around or go to a local gun shop. AR-15s and high capicity magazines flew off the shelves the second the word assault weapons ban came out of the president's mouth. They are essentially banning something that is already sold out and unavailable for purchase. Its essentially like banning the xbox 360 after everyone who wants one already has one. My guess is there are enough weapons in private hands that the used market will be full of them for years to come. The only way to get those weapons back would be through a mandatorybuyback which will never happen because it would provoke such massive court battles and political divide.

Just my thoughts

Serraph105

Those buy backs just take junk firearms off the street most of the time. They usually do something like $100 for handguns and $200 for long guns. Somebody who spends $1000 on an AR-15 isn't going to give it away for $200. I'm just underlining the pointlessness of reinstating the assault weapon ban. So many guns are in private hands that its a bit pointless to stop the production of them. The used market will be full of them for years to come.

I suspect more people are killed in Obama approved drone strikes than in mass shootings each year.

[QUOTE="Serraph105"][QUOTE="UnknownSniper65"]

Even an assault weapons ban is pretty useless at this point. They can't take away the guns already in private hands. Look around or go to a local gun shop. AR-15s and high capicity magazines flew off the shelves the second the word assault weapons ban came out of the president's mouth. They are essentially banning something that is already sold out and unavailable for purchase. Its essentially like banning the xbox 360 after everyone who wants one already has one. My guess is there are enough weapons in private hands that the used market will be full of them for years to come. The only way to get those weapons back would be through a mandatorybuyback which will never happen because it would provoke such massive court battles and political divide.

Just my thoughts

UnknownSniper65

Those buy backs just take junk firearms off the street most of the time. They usually do something like $100 for handguns and $200 for long guns. Somebody who spends $1000 on an AR-15 isn't going to give it away for $200. I'm just underlining the pointlessness of reinstating the assault weapon ban. So many guns are in private hands that its a bit pointless to stop the production of them. The used market will be full of them for years to come.

This ban proposal isnt going to change anything, and there will be those to oppose it. I will still buy the guns through 2nd hand If I need. The 2nd amendment is the only form of gun control I need, they are no one to tell me what I can or can't have.

This ban proposal isnt going to change anything, and there will be those to oppose it. I will still buy the guns through 2nd hand If I need. The 2nd amendment is the only form of gun control I need, they are no one to tell me what I can or can't have.

Kamekazi_69

[QUOTE="Kamekazi_69"]

This ban proposal isnt going to change anything, and there will be those to oppose it. I will still buy the guns through 2nd hand If I need. The 2nd amendment is the only form of gun control I need, they are no one to tell me what I can or can't have.

no-scope-AK47

Exactly, the entire concept of banning semi-automatic "assault" weapons isridiculous.

Both of these guns function exactly the same internally. The only difference is one has a hand grip and a larger magazine.

[QUOTE="no-scope-AK47"]

[QUOTE="Kamekazi_69"]

This ban proposal isnt going to change anything, and there will be those to oppose it. I will still buy the guns through 2nd hand If I need. The 2nd amendment is the only form of gun control I need, they are no one to tell me what I can or can't have.

UnknownSniper65

Exactly, the entire concept of banning semi-automatic "assault" weapons isridiculous.

Both of these guns function exactly the same internally. The only difference is one has a hand grip and a larger magazine.

[QUOTE="Kamekazi_69"]

This ban proposal isnt going to change anything, and there will be those to oppose it. I will still buy the guns through 2nd hand If I need. The 2nd amendment is the only form of gun control I need, they are no one to tell me what I can or can't have.

no-scope-AK47

[QUOTE="no-scope-AK47"]

[QUOTE="Kamekazi_69"]

This ban proposal isnt going to change anything, and there will be those to oppose it. I will still buy the guns through 2nd hand If I need. The 2nd amendment is the only form of gun control I need, they are no one to tell me what I can or can't have.

-Sun_Tzu-

[QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"][QUOTE="no-scope-AK47"]This is exactly what is going to happen. People will go back channel and the prices of weapons and ammo will go way up. Thousands of legal gun owners will now become crimminals over night cause some dick in DC signed some paper. The assault weapon ban is a joke just by changing a stock or grip all of a sudden a semi auto weapon becomes an assault weapon pure bs.

no-scope-AK47

[QUOTE="no-scope-AK47"]

[QUOTE="-Sun_Tzu-"] How would someone like Adam Lanza acquire the assault rifle he used with said weapons ban in place? He had trouble even leaving the basement, let alone leaving the house. -Sun_Tzu-

[QUOTE="UnknownSniper65"]

[QUOTE="no-scope-AK47"]This is exactly what is going to happen. People will go back channel and the prices of weapons and ammo will go way up. Thousands of legal gun owners will now become crimminals over night cause some dick in DC signed some paper. The assault weapon ban is a joke just by changing a stock or grip all of a sudden a semi auto weapon becomes an assault weapon pure bs.

Kamekazi_69

Exactly, the entire concept of banning semi-automatic "assault" weapons isridiculous.

Both of these guns function exactly the same internally. The only difference is one has a hand grip and a larger magazine.

[QUOTE="Kamekazi_69"][QUOTE="Aljosa23"]

Everyone getting to keep their guns is totally worth the lives of those kindergarteners amirite

Overlord93