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[QUOTE="SteveTabernacle"][QUOTE="Snipes_2"]In your opinion. You are an Atheist right? Therefore, you certainly won't change your views because some random person on the Internet thinks differently. Just like I will never change my views. Snipes_2Not a matter of opinion, any objective observer who grades this debate can clearly see you failed to make a compelling and logical case. I won't change my views for one random person on the internet, because said person has no proof. If I'm shown compelling proof for God, I would admit I was wrong. But none has been shown. Anyone observing this debate can also see how the other side has failed as well. You have not shown any Compelling evidence against God, I won't change my views because that random person has no evidence. I have evidence, you choose not to believe it.
What evidence is that?
I don't have a belief in a god because of the lack of evidence. Now, that doesn't mean I actively believe god doesn't exist. The auspice is on you to prove god does exist.
For example, I believe in pink fairies, while you don't have that belief. Do I have to prove the existence of the fairies, or do you have to disprove their existence. In reality, you can't disprove anything, so asking for that kind of evidence doesn't make sense.
[QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"][QUOTE="Snipes_2"] Wait, so I can't ask any questions, but you can? Adam and Eve were in Paradise, God gave them the chance, and they decided to eat the fruit. scorch-62If you believe the Adam and Eve story, you open the following can of worms: 1) Dinosaurs. What the heck where they doing here if God created Earth in a few days and then put man on it when was finished? 2) The bible states that the earth is thousands of years old. We know now that it is in fact many many millions of years old. 3) Why did God put a talking snake in his paradise if he knew it would ruin everything? inb4 "it's not a snake, it's a serpent"
The best post in this entire thread. :lol:
If you believe the Adam and Eve story, you open the following can of worms: 1) Dinosaurs. What the heck where they doing here if God created Earth in a few days and then put man on it when was finished? 2) The bible states that the earth is thousands of years old. We know now that it is in fact many many millions of years old. 3) Why did God put a talking snake in his paradise if he knew it would ruin everything? 1. they were here with man and they died with the flood[QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"][QUOTE="Snipes_2"] Wait, so I can't ask any questions, but you can? Adam and Eve were in Paradise, God gave them the chance, and they decided to eat the fruit. Silenthps
2. It's not a fact that its millions of years old, only faulty science says so
3. because he wanted it to ruin everything
"2. It's not a fact that its millions of years old, only faulty science says so" Bwahahahahha. It's commonly accepted that the Earth is billions of years old. If you don't trust Carbon Dating, check out Ice Core dating.[QUOTE="GabuEx"][QUOTE="Snipes_2"]Actually I provided evidence, you chose not to believe it. The other side has provided Zero evidence proving that God does't exist. Why is it my place to "Prove" God exists and not yours to prove HE doesn't?Snipes_2
What exactly would evidence proving that God doesn't exist look like?
There isn't any, so I don't know.There is nothing whatsoever that, if we discovered it, we could say that God doesn't exist?
[QUOTE="SteveTabernacle"][QUOTE="Snipes_2"] I didn't start this debate.Snipes_2But you did keep going. Am I just supposed to ignore something I disagree with?You also said "Alright, I'm done arguing over this. I obviously won't convince you people that there is actually a God. You are set in your ways."
[QUOTE="Snipes_2"] Man wasn't put on earth Immediately, they were in Paradise, which was not earth. Time doesn't work the Same in Paradise, therefore, dinosaurs could have existed before God put Adam and Eve on Earth. The "Talking Snake" was the Devil, God didn't place the Devil there. Ninja-HippoNow you're getting your own scripture wrong. Paradise is not separate from Earth. Adam and Eve were placed on Earth on the sixth day.
Not to mention that there is no Biblical evidence that the serpent was the devil.
Science is wrong because science is wrong is not a logical conclusion. If you would like to go into a lab and show that carbon dating is wrong, feel free. It isn't however. If you believe the world is indeed only 6000 years old, there is no point us continuing this any further as those are your beliefs and i'm not going to change them. :)1. they were here with man and they died with the flood
2. It's not a fact that its millions of years old, only faulty science says so
3. because he wanted it to ruin everything
Silenthps
[QUOTE="SteveTabernacle"][QUOTE="Snipes_2"] I didn't start this debate.Snipes_2But you did keep going. Am I just supposed to ignore something I disagree with?
In this scenario, hell yes.
Am I just supposed to ignore something I disagree with?You also said "Alright, I'm done arguing over this. I obviously won't convince you people that there is actually a God. You are set in your ways."[QUOTE="Snipes_2"][QUOTE="SteveTabernacle"]But you did keep going.UbiquitousAeon
No, I'm not getting it wrong. And now you're saying God created Earth? :?Snipes_2Then cite your source.
@GabuEx
The house fly and the rose are separated by possibly billions of years, but you are placing them into the same genus? You again, dont seem to be able to see past your own nose at what you are saying. You are saying that this matter that makes them related is self generating, that without programming it can code itself. Again, the ipod can suck songs into existence and program them to a specific setting without someone pressing the buttons.
My explaination for the tailbone is that during the development of a fetus, it grows upward into the body which promotes spinal growth. Everything in the body is a switch for something else, something always activates another function. Sometimes the fetus is born with a soft tail and is the result of its inability to grow properly. Its very simple.
I didnt quote some of it because it was nonsense to me and nobody else addressed the issues you stated in 16 pages of text. There was no need as nobody really care for it at all because the majority bypassed it as nonsense and to be overlooked.
You can say I am not interested in things all you want GabuEx. But the fact of the matter is my mathematical representations of how things played out make sense. The universe appeared from nothing
nothing is 0
then something came to be
0+0=a number
How is that meaningless? Is it meaningless because you say it is and cannot explain it? Because in all of your posts so far you've failed to provide a shred of justification for anything ive asked? Your replies are short lived and reside inside the box. You claim meaninglessness in my posts but i prove them to be worth something. maybe you should go ask your professors and mr hawkings to explain how the idea of the magic behind a god suddenly appearing is nonsense compared to the idea that the universe sprang into existence and wrote itself without it actually being self aware or alive. Oh wait...all atheists avoid that question and claim "WE DONT KNOW" well, if you dont know then why do you call yourself an atheist who doesnt believe in god?
lol, failure.
You also said "Alright, I'm done arguing over this. I obviously won't convince you people that there is actually a God. You are set in your ways."[QUOTE="UbiquitousAeon"]
[QUOTE="Snipes_2"] Am I just supposed to ignore something I disagree with?Snipes_2
[QUOTE="Snipes_2"]Am I just supposed to ignore something I disagree with?scorch-62Well, you COULD do that, but how else would a filthy atheist hear the inspired word of God? You've already stated that you aren't going to believe in God. Just by that post alone.
Would you like me to just leave the thread when people continue to quote me and post things I disagree with?Snipes_2Why not? No harm would come of it to you or anyone else.
[QUOTE="Silenthps"]Science is wrong because science is wrong is not a logical conclusion. If you would like to go into a lab and show that carbon dating is wrong, feel free. It isn't however. If you believe the world is indeed only 6000 years old, there is no point us continuing this any further as those are your beliefs and i'm not going to change them. :) i don't need to go to a lab to prove carbon dating is wrong. I can go to the Bible where it gives a genealogy from Adam to Christ and infer that carbon dating is wrong.1. they were here with man and they died with the flood
2. It's not a fact that its millions of years old, only faulty science says so
3. because he wanted it to ruin everything
Ninja-Hippo
oh and its not "Science is wrong because science is wrong" its Scientist are wrong because they don't recognize the God of the Bible.
I'm pretty sure Gabu is a Christian.@GabuEx
The house fly and the rose are separated by possibly billions of years, but you are placing them into the same genus? You again, dont seem to be able to see past your own nose at what you are saying. You are saying that this matter that makes them related is self generating, that without programming it can code itself. Again, the ipod can suck songs into existence and program them to a specific setting without someone pressing the buttons.
My explaination for the tailbone is that during the development of a fetus, it grows upward into the body which promotes spinal growth. Everything in the body is a switch for something else, something always activates another function. Sometimes the fetus is born with a soft tail and is the result of its inability to grow properly. Its very simple.
I didnt quote some of it because it was nonsense to me and nobody else addressed the issues you stated in 16 pages of text. There was no need as nobody really care for it at all because the majority bypassed it as nonsense and to be overlooked.
You can say I am not interested in things all you want GabuEx. But the fact of the matter is my mathematical representations of how things played out make sense. The universe appeared from nothing
nothing is 0
then something came to be
0+0=a number
How is that meaningless? Is it meaningless because you say it is and cannot explain it? Because in all of your posts so far you've failed to provide a shred of justification for anything ive asked? Your replies are short lived and reside inside the box. You claim meaninglessness in my posts but i prove them to be worth something. maybe you should go ask your professors and mr hawkings to explain how the idea of the magic behind a god suddenly appearing is nonsense compared to the idea that the universe sprang into existence and wrote itself without it actually being self aware or alive. Oh wait...all atheists avoid that question and claim "WE DONT KNOW" well, if you dont know then why do you call yourself an atheist who doesnt believe in god?
lol, failure.
deadpool86x
[QUOTE="deadevil666"][QUOTE="Snipes_2"] Am I just supposed to ignore something I disagree with?Snipes_2
In this scenario, hell yes.
That's not my Philosophy.It's not about Philosophy. It's about respecting the beliefs of others, no matter how much they go against your own beliefs. To me, that's what being a true advocate of "God" is all about.
[QUOTE="scorch-62"][QUOTE="Snipes_2"]Am I just supposed to ignore something I disagree with?Snipes_2Well, you COULD do that, but how else would a filthy atheist hear the inspired word of God? You've already stated that you aren't going to believe in God. Just by that post alone.
How would he, what evidence have you provided?
[QUOTE="scorch-62"][QUOTE="Snipes_2"]Am I just supposed to ignore something I disagree with?Snipes_2Well, you COULD do that, but how else would a filthy atheist hear the inspired word of God? You've already stated that you aren't going to believe in God. Just by that post alone. How, exactly?
You've already stated that you aren't going to believe in God. Just by that post alone.[QUOTE="Snipes_2"][QUOTE="scorch-62"] Well, you COULD do that, but how else would a filthy atheist hear the inspired word of God?SgtKevali
How would he, what evidence have you provided?
I used the Bible. Choosing not to believe it.[QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"][QUOTE="Silenthps"]Science is wrong because science is wrong is not a logical conclusion. If you would like to go into a lab and show that carbon dating is wrong, feel free. It isn't however. If you believe the world is indeed only 6000 years old, there is no point us continuing this any further as those are your beliefs and i'm not going to change them. :) i don't need to go to a lab to prove carbon dating is wrong. I can go to the Bible where it gives a genealogy from Adam to Christ and infer that carbon dating is wrong. :lol: You keep getting funnier the more you post. Listen, I'll go and write a book from...the Great Napkin to the Bean to the human and we'll all go worship it, kay?1. they were here with man and they died with the flood
2. It's not a fact that its millions of years old, only faulty science says so
3. because he wanted it to ruin everything
Silenthps
Science is wrong because science is wrong is not a logical conclusion. If you would like to go into a lab and show that carbon dating is wrong, feel free. It isn't however. If you believe the world is indeed only 6000 years old, there is no point us continuing this any further as those are your beliefs and i'm not going to change them. :) i don't need to go to a lab to prove carbon dating is wrong. I can go to the Bible where it gives a genealogy from Adam to Christ and infer that carbon dating is wrong.[QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"][QUOTE="Silenthps"]
1. they were here with man and they died with the flood
2. It's not a fact that its millions of years old, only faulty science says so
3. because he wanted it to ruin everything
Silenthps
oh and its not "Science is wrong because science is wrong" its Scientist are wrong because they don't recognize the God of the Bible.
Correction, you're wrong because you don't worship the God of the Quran, or whatever other scripture exists whose name currently eludes me.You claim meaninglessness in my posts but i prove them to be worth something. maybe you should go ask your professors and mr hawkings to explain how the idea of the magic behind a god suddenly appearing is nonsense compared to the idea that the universe sprang into existence and wrote itself without it actually being self aware or alive. Oh wait...all atheists avoid that question and claim "WE DONT KNOW" well, if you dont know then why do you call yourself an atheist who doesnt believe in god?deadpool86xShow me an educated atheist who has actually stated that the universe sprang into existence randomly and wrote itself. You're committing the strawman fallacy. Hawkings wouldn't answer the question because the question is utter nonsense because he never proposed such a thing.
[QUOTE="SgtKevali"][QUOTE="Snipes_2"] You've already stated that you aren't going to believe in God. Just by that post alone. Snipes_2
How would he, what evidence have you provided?
I used the Bible. Choosing not to believe it.And how do you know what is written in the Bible is true?
[QUOTE="Snipes_2"]Would you like me to just leave the thread when people continue to quote me and post things I disagree with?SteveTabernacleWhy not? No harm would come of it to you or anyone else. Actually I've tried leaving before. Useres come into other threads and repeatedly ask why I didn't reply. Or if I'm in another debate they'll use me leaving as a point against me.
Science is wrong because science is wrong is not a logical conclusion. If you would like to go into a lab and show that carbon dating is wrong, feel free. It isn't however. If you believe the world is indeed only 6000 years old, there is no point us continuing this any further as those are your beliefs and i'm not going to change them. :) i don't need to go to a lab to prove carbon dating is wrong. I can go to the Bible where it gives a genealogy from Adam to Christ and infer that carbon dating is wrong.[QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"][QUOTE="Silenthps"]
1. they were here with man and they died with the flood
2. It's not a fact that its millions of years old, only faulty science says so
3. because he wanted it to ruin everything
Silenthps
oh and its not "Science is wrong because science is wrong" its Scientist are wrong because they don't recognize the God of the Bible.
Question; are your parents christian and do you live in a christian community?[QUOTE="SgtKevali"]
[QUOTE="Snipes_2"] I used the Bible. Choosing not to believe it. Snipes_2
And how do you know what is written in the Bible is true?
How do you know it's not?The auspice, again, is on you to prove it true, not for me to prove it "wrong". You can't disprove anything.
For example: I can't prove that pink fairies don't exist.
But the logical assumption isn't that they do exist. Until you prove something to be true or to exist, the logical step is not to believe in it or to have a lack of belief in it.
Or if I'm in another debate they'll use me leaving as a point against me. Snipes_2... you think that's harm? Dude.... it's just an internet forum.
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