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#351 Snipes_2
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[QUOTE="SteveTabernacle"][QUOTE="Snipes_2"] Man wasn't put on earth Immediately, they were in Paradise, which was not earth. Time doesn't work the Same in Paradise, therefore, dinosaurs could have existed before God put Adam and Eve on Earth. The "Talking Snake" was the Devil, God didn't place the Devil there.

You're making that stuff up off the top of your head. Besides, even if your theoretical god character didn't PUT the talking snake there, he knew it was there, and he allowed it to be there and do what it did.

God gave Adam and eve a Choice, eat the Fruit or don't. They ate it, Free Will. How am I "Making Stuff up off the top of my Head"?
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#352 SgtKevali
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[QUOTE="SteveTabernacle"][QUOTE="Snipes_2"]In your opinion. You are an Atheist right? Therefore, you certainly won't change your views because some random person on the Internet thinks differently. Just like I will never change my views. Snipes_2
Not a matter of opinion, any objective observer who grades this debate can clearly see you failed to make a compelling and logical case. I won't change my views for one random person on the internet, because said person has no proof. If I'm shown compelling proof for God, I would admit I was wrong. But none has been shown.

Anyone observing this debate can also see how the other side has failed as well. You have not shown any Compelling evidence against God, I won't change my views because that random person has no evidence. I have evidence, you choose not to believe it.

What evidence is that?

I don't have a belief in a god because of the lack of evidence. Now, that doesn't mean I actively believe god doesn't exist. The auspice is on you to prove god does exist.

For example, I believe in pink fairies, while you don't have that belief. Do I have to prove the existence of the fairies, or do you have to disprove their existence. In reality, you can't disprove anything, so asking for that kind of evidence doesn't make sense.

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#353 deadevil666
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[QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"][QUOTE="Snipes_2"] Wait, so I can't ask any questions, but you can? Adam and Eve were in Paradise, God gave them the chance, and they decided to eat the fruit. scorch-62
If you believe the Adam and Eve story, you open the following can of worms: 1) Dinosaurs. What the heck where they doing here if God created Earth in a few days and then put man on it when was finished? 2) The bible states that the earth is thousands of years old. We know now that it is in fact many many millions of years old. 3) Why did God put a talking snake in his paradise if he knew it would ruin everything?

inb4 "it's not a snake, it's a serpent"

The best post in this entire thread. :lol:

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#354 urdead18
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[QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"][QUOTE="Snipes_2"] Wait, so I can't ask any questions, but you can? Adam and Eve were in Paradise, God gave them the chance, and they decided to eat the fruit. Silenthps

If you believe the Adam and Eve story, you open the following can of worms: 1) Dinosaurs. What the heck where they doing here if God created Earth in a few days and then put man on it when was finished? 2) The bible states that the earth is thousands of years old. We know now that it is in fact many many millions of years old. 3) Why did God put a talking snake in his paradise if he knew it would ruin everything?

1. they were here with man and they died with the flood

2. It's not a fact that its millions of years old, only faulty science says so

3. because he wanted it to ruin everything

"2. It's not a fact that its millions of years old, only faulty science says so" Bwahahahahha. It's commonly accepted that the Earth is billions of years old. If you don't trust Carbon Dating, check out Ice Core dating.
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#355 GabuEx
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[QUOTE="GabuEx"]

[QUOTE="Snipes_2"]Actually I provided evidence, you chose not to believe it. The other side has provided Zero evidence proving that God does't exist. Why is it my place to "Prove" God exists and not yours to prove HE doesn't?Snipes_2

What exactly would evidence proving that God doesn't exist look like?

There isn't any, so I don't know.

There is nothing whatsoever that, if we discovered it, we could say that God doesn't exist?

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#356 UbiquitousAeon
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[QUOTE="SteveTabernacle"][QUOTE="Snipes_2"] I didn't start this debate.Snipes_2
But you did keep going.

Am I just supposed to ignore something I disagree with?

You also said "Alright, I'm done arguing over this. I obviously won't convince you people that there is actually a God. You are set in your ways."

Which is it going to be?

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#357 Snipes_2
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[QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"][QUOTE="Snipes_2"] Man wasn't put on earth Immediately, they were in Paradise, which was not earth. Time doesn't work the Same in Paradise, therefore, dinosaurs could have existed before God put Adam and Eve on Earth. The "Talking Snake" was the Devil, God didn't place the Devil there.

Now you're getting your own scripture wrong. Paradise is not separate from Earth. Adam and Eve were placed on Earth on the sixth day.

No, I'm not getting it wrong. And now you're saying God created Earth? :?
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#358 GabuEx
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[QUOTE="Snipes_2"] Man wasn't put on earth Immediately, they were in Paradise, which was not earth. Time doesn't work the Same in Paradise, therefore, dinosaurs could have existed before God put Adam and Eve on Earth. The "Talking Snake" was the Devil, God didn't place the Devil there. Ninja-Hippo
Now you're getting your own scripture wrong. Paradise is not separate from Earth. Adam and Eve were placed on Earth on the sixth day.

Not to mention that there is no Biblical evidence that the serpent was the devil.

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#359 scorch-62
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Am I just supposed to ignore something I disagree with?Snipes_2
Well, you COULD do that, but how else would a filthy atheist hear the inspired word of God?
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#360 SteveTabernacle
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[QUOTE="Snipes_2"] Yahweh is not the Christian God. So, you're saying every male looks like Zeus? What about the other Gods?

Yahweh is the god character of the Old Testament, some translations have his name as Jehovah, but they are one in the same. You're stuck with him, like it or not.
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#361 Ninja-Hippo
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1. they were here with man and they died with the flood

2. It's not a fact that its millions of years old, only faulty science says so

3. because he wanted it to ruin everything

Silenthps
Science is wrong because science is wrong is not a logical conclusion. If you would like to go into a lab and show that carbon dating is wrong, feel free. It isn't however. If you believe the world is indeed only 6000 years old, there is no point us continuing this any further as those are your beliefs and i'm not going to change them. :)
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#362 deadevil666
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[QUOTE="SteveTabernacle"][QUOTE="Snipes_2"] I didn't start this debate.Snipes_2
But you did keep going.

Am I just supposed to ignore something I disagree with?

In this scenario, hell yes.

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#363 Snipes_2
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[QUOTE="Snipes_2"][QUOTE="SteveTabernacle"]But you did keep going.UbiquitousAeon

Am I just supposed to ignore something I disagree with?

You also said "Alright, I'm done arguing over this. I obviously won't convince you people that there is actually a God. You are set in your ways."

Which is it going to be?

Would you like me to just leave the thread when people continue to quote me and post things I disagree with?

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#364 Snipes_2
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[QUOTE="Snipes_2"][QUOTE="SteveTabernacle"]But you did keep going.deadevil666

Am I just supposed to ignore something I disagree with?

In this scenario, hell yes.

That's not my Philosophy.
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#365 SteveTabernacle
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No, I'm not getting it wrong. And now you're saying God created Earth? :?Snipes_2
Then cite your source.
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#366 deadpool86x
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@GabuEx

The house fly and the rose are separated by possibly billions of years, but you are placing them into the same genus? You again, dont seem to be able to see past your own nose at what you are saying. You are saying that this matter that makes them related is self generating, that without programming it can code itself. Again, the ipod can suck songs into existence and program them to a specific setting without someone pressing the buttons.

My explaination for the tailbone is that during the development of a fetus, it grows upward into the body which promotes spinal growth. Everything in the body is a switch for something else, something always activates another function. Sometimes the fetus is born with a soft tail and is the result of its inability to grow properly. Its very simple.

I didnt quote some of it because it was nonsense to me and nobody else addressed the issues you stated in 16 pages of text. There was no need as nobody really care for it at all because the majority bypassed it as nonsense and to be overlooked.

You can say I am not interested in things all you want GabuEx. But the fact of the matter is my mathematical representations of how things played out make sense. The universe appeared from nothing

nothing is 0

then something came to be

0+0=a number

How is that meaningless? Is it meaningless because you say it is and cannot explain it? Because in all of your posts so far you've failed to provide a shred of justification for anything ive asked? Your replies are short lived and reside inside the box. You claim meaninglessness in my posts but i prove them to be worth something. maybe you should go ask your professors and mr hawkings to explain how the idea of the magic behind a god suddenly appearing is nonsense compared to the idea that the universe sprang into existence and wrote itself without it actually being self aware or alive. Oh wait...all atheists avoid that question and claim "WE DONT KNOW" well, if you dont know then why do you call yourself an atheist who doesnt believe in god?

lol, failure.

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#367 UbiquitousAeon
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[QUOTE="UbiquitousAeon"]

[QUOTE="Snipes_2"] Am I just supposed to ignore something I disagree with?Snipes_2

You also said "Alright, I'm done arguing over this. I obviously won't convince you people that there is actually a God. You are set in your ways."

Which is it going to be?

Would you like me to just leave the thread when people continue to quote me and post things I disagree with?

I don't care. Do what you want but you're obviously not done yet so why did you even bother posting that comment in the first place?

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#368 Ninja-Hippo
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[QUOTE="Snipes_2"] No, I'm not getting it wrong. And now you're saying God created Earth? :?

Yeah it does kinda say so in the Bible: "In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth" (Genesis 1:1 NIV) I mean you should really know THAT one dude... :P
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#369 Snipes_2
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[QUOTE="Snipes_2"]Am I just supposed to ignore something I disagree with?scorch-62
Well, you COULD do that, but how else would a filthy atheist hear the inspired word of God?

You've already stated that you aren't going to believe in God. Just by that post alone.
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#370 SteveTabernacle
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Would you like me to just leave the thread when people continue to quote me and post things I disagree with?Snipes_2
Why not? No harm would come of it to you or anyone else.
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#371 Silenthps
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[QUOTE="Silenthps"]

1. they were here with man and they died with the flood

2. It's not a fact that its millions of years old, only faulty science says so

3. because he wanted it to ruin everything

Ninja-Hippo

Science is wrong because science is wrong is not a logical conclusion. If you would like to go into a lab and show that carbon dating is wrong, feel free. It isn't however. If you believe the world is indeed only 6000 years old, there is no point us continuing this any further as those are your beliefs and i'm not going to change them. :)

i don't need to go to a lab to prove carbon dating is wrong. I can go to the Bible where it gives a genealogy from Adam to Christ and infer that carbon dating is wrong.

oh and its not "Science is wrong because science is wrong" its Scientist are wrong because they don't recognize the God of the Bible.

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#372 UbiquitousAeon
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@GabuEx

The house fly and the rose are separated by possibly billions of years, but you are placing them into the same genus? You again, dont seem to be able to see past your own nose at what you are saying. You are saying that this matter that makes them related is self generating, that without programming it can code itself. Again, the ipod can suck songs into existence and program them to a specific setting without someone pressing the buttons.

My explaination for the tailbone is that during the development of a fetus, it grows upward into the body which promotes spinal growth. Everything in the body is a switch for something else, something always activates another function. Sometimes the fetus is born with a soft tail and is the result of its inability to grow properly. Its very simple.

I didnt quote some of it because it was nonsense to me and nobody else addressed the issues you stated in 16 pages of text. There was no need as nobody really care for it at all because the majority bypassed it as nonsense and to be overlooked.

You can say I am not interested in things all you want GabuEx. But the fact of the matter is my mathematical representations of how things played out make sense. The universe appeared from nothing

nothing is 0

then something came to be

0+0=a number

How is that meaningless? Is it meaningless because you say it is and cannot explain it? Because in all of your posts so far you've failed to provide a shred of justification for anything ive asked? Your replies are short lived and reside inside the box. You claim meaninglessness in my posts but i prove them to be worth something. maybe you should go ask your professors and mr hawkings to explain how the idea of the magic behind a god suddenly appearing is nonsense compared to the idea that the universe sprang into existence and wrote itself without it actually being self aware or alive. Oh wait...all atheists avoid that question and claim "WE DONT KNOW" well, if you dont know then why do you call yourself an atheist who doesnt believe in god?

lol, failure.

deadpool86x

I'm pretty sure Gabu is a Christian.

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#373 deadevil666
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[QUOTE="deadevil666"]

[QUOTE="Snipes_2"] Am I just supposed to ignore something I disagree with?Snipes_2

In this scenario, hell yes.

That's not my Philosophy.

It's not about Philosophy. It's about respecting the beliefs of others, no matter how much they go against your own beliefs. To me, that's what being a true advocate of "God" is all about.

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[QUOTE="Silenthps"] i don't need to go to a lab to prove carbon dating is wrong. I can go to the Bible where it gives a genealogy from Adam to Christ and infer that carbon dating is wrong.

You cannot quote the bible to prove the things you get from the bible. :| You believe that the earth is 6000 years old then, based on what the bible says?
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[QUOTE="scorch-62"][QUOTE="Snipes_2"]Am I just supposed to ignore something I disagree with?Snipes_2
Well, you COULD do that, but how else would a filthy atheist hear the inspired word of God?

You've already stated that you aren't going to believe in God. Just by that post alone.

How would he, what evidence have you provided?

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#376 Snipes_2
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[QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"][QUOTE="Snipes_2"] No, I'm not getting it wrong. And now you're saying God created Earth? :?

Yeah it does kinda say so in the Bible: "In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth" (Genesis 1:1 NIV) I mean you should really know THAT one dude... :P

Okay...He created Heaven and Earth. So you agree that God in fact created Heaven and Earth?
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#377 scorch-62
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[QUOTE="scorch-62"][QUOTE="Snipes_2"]Am I just supposed to ignore something I disagree with?Snipes_2
Well, you COULD do that, but how else would a filthy atheist hear the inspired word of God?

You've already stated that you aren't going to believe in God. Just by that post alone.

How, exactly?
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#378 Snipes_2
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[QUOTE="Snipes_2"][QUOTE="scorch-62"] Well, you COULD do that, but how else would a filthy atheist hear the inspired word of God?SgtKevali

You've already stated that you aren't going to believe in God. Just by that post alone.

How would he, what evidence have you provided?

I used the Bible. Choosing not to believe it.
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#379 urdead18
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[QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"][QUOTE="Silenthps"]

1. they were here with man and they died with the flood

2. It's not a fact that its millions of years old, only faulty science says so

3. because he wanted it to ruin everything

Silenthps
Science is wrong because science is wrong is not a logical conclusion. If you would like to go into a lab and show that carbon dating is wrong, feel free. It isn't however. If you believe the world is indeed only 6000 years old, there is no point us continuing this any further as those are your beliefs and i'm not going to change them. :)

i don't need to go to a lab to prove carbon dating is wrong. I can go to the Bible where it gives a genealogy from Adam to Christ and infer that carbon dating is wrong.

:lol: You keep getting funnier the more you post. Listen, I'll go and write a book from...the Great Napkin to the Bean to the human and we'll all go worship it, kay?
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i don't need to go to a lab to prove carbon dating is wrong. I can go to the Bible where it gives a genealogy from Adam to Christ and infer that carbon dating is wrong.Silenthps
unless....the Bible is wrong....
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#381 urdead18
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[QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"][QUOTE="Silenthps"]

1. they were here with man and they died with the flood

2. It's not a fact that its millions of years old, only faulty science says so

3. because he wanted it to ruin everything

Silenthps

Science is wrong because science is wrong is not a logical conclusion. If you would like to go into a lab and show that carbon dating is wrong, feel free. It isn't however. If you believe the world is indeed only 6000 years old, there is no point us continuing this any further as those are your beliefs and i'm not going to change them. :)

i don't need to go to a lab to prove carbon dating is wrong. I can go to the Bible where it gives a genealogy from Adam to Christ and infer that carbon dating is wrong.

oh and its not "Science is wrong because science is wrong" its Scientist are wrong because they don't recognize the God of the Bible.

Correction, you're wrong because you don't worship the God of the Quran, or whatever other scripture exists whose name currently eludes me.

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#382 Snipes_2
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[QUOTE="scorch-62"][QUOTE="Snipes_2"][QUOTE="scorch-62"] Well, you COULD do that, but how else would a filthy atheist hear the inspired word of God?

You've already stated that you aren't going to believe in God. Just by that post alone.

How, exactly?

"Filthy Atheist" and "Inspired Word of God"? Those aren't exactly showing your willingness.
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#383 SteveTabernacle
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You claim meaninglessness in my posts but i prove them to be worth something. maybe you should go ask your professors and mr hawkings to explain how the idea of the magic behind a god suddenly appearing is nonsense compared to the idea that the universe sprang into existence and wrote itself without it actually being self aware or alive. Oh wait...all atheists avoid that question and claim "WE DONT KNOW" well, if you dont know then why do you call yourself an atheist who doesnt believe in god?deadpool86x
Show me an educated atheist who has actually stated that the universe sprang into existence randomly and wrote itself. You're committing the strawman fallacy. Hawkings wouldn't answer the question because the question is utter nonsense because he never proposed such a thing.
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#384 Darth-Caedus
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There ya go everyone, undeniable proof that a benevolent and omnipotent god can not exist.

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#385 SgtKevali
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[QUOTE="SgtKevali"]

[QUOTE="Snipes_2"] You've already stated that you aren't going to believe in God. Just by that post alone. Snipes_2

How would he, what evidence have you provided?

I used the Bible. Choosing not to believe it.

And how do you know what is written in the Bible is true?

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[QUOTE="Snipes_2"][QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"][QUOTE="Snipes_2"] No, I'm not getting it wrong. And now you're saying God created Earth? :?

Yeah it does kinda say so in the Bible: "In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth" (Genesis 1:1 NIV) I mean you should really know THAT one dude... :P

Okay...He created Heaven and Earth. So you agree that God in fact created Heaven and Earth?

:lol: No i did not in any way whatsoever agree that God created Heaven and Earth, i merely quoted your own scripture which you got wrong.
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#387 Snipes_2
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[QUOTE="Snipes_2"]Would you like me to just leave the thread when people continue to quote me and post things I disagree with?SteveTabernacle
Why not? No harm would come of it to you or anyone else.

Actually I've tried leaving before. Useres come into other threads and repeatedly ask why I didn't reply. Or if I'm in another debate they'll use me leaving as a point against me.
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[QUOTE="Snipes_2"][QUOTE="scorch-62"][QUOTE="Snipes_2"] You've already stated that you aren't going to believe in God. Just by that post alone.

How, exactly?

"Filthy Atheist" and "Inspired Word of God"? Those aren't exactly showing your willingness.

And how is that?
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#389 Snipes_2
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[QUOTE="Snipes_2"][QUOTE="SgtKevali"]

How would he, what evidence have you provided?

SgtKevali

I used the Bible. Choosing not to believe it.

And how do you know what is written in the Bible is true?

How do you know it's not?

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#390 Ninja-Hippo
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[QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"][QUOTE="Silenthps"]

1. they were here with man and they died with the flood

2. It's not a fact that its millions of years old, only faulty science says so

3. because he wanted it to ruin everything

Silenthps

Science is wrong because science is wrong is not a logical conclusion. If you would like to go into a lab and show that carbon dating is wrong, feel free. It isn't however. If you believe the world is indeed only 6000 years old, there is no point us continuing this any further as those are your beliefs and i'm not going to change them. :)

i don't need to go to a lab to prove carbon dating is wrong. I can go to the Bible where it gives a genealogy from Adam to Christ and infer that carbon dating is wrong.

oh and its not "Science is wrong because science is wrong" its Scientist are wrong because they don't recognize the God of the Bible.

Question; are your parents christian and do you live in a christian community?
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#391 Snipes_2
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[QUOTE="scorch-62"][QUOTE="Snipes_2"][QUOTE="scorch-62"] How, exactly?

"Filthy Atheist" and "Inspired Word of God"? Those aren't exactly showing your willingness.

And how is that?

Sarcasm and contempt? I'm not going to argue over your word use.
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[QUOTE="Snipes_2"][QUOTE="scorch-62"][QUOTE="Snipes_2"] "Filthy Atheist" and "Inspired Word of God"? Those aren't exactly showing your willingness.

And how is that?

Sarcasm and contempt? I'm not going to argue over your word use.

I'm just asking questions and seeking answers. I'm not arguing.
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#393 Snipes_2
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[QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"][QUOTE="Snipes_2"][QUOTE="Ninja-Hippo"] Yeah it does kinda say so in the Bible: "In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth" (Genesis 1:1 NIV) I mean you should really know THAT one dude... :P

Okay...He created Heaven and Earth. So you agree that God in fact created Heaven and Earth?

:lol: No i did not in any way whatsoever agree that God created Heaven and Earth, i merely quoted your own scripture which you got wrong.

According to you the Bible is not a Good Source. Where did I quote the Bible, that could have been my interpretation. You said the Bible isn't true, yet you quote it.
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[QUOTE="Snipes_2"][QUOTE="SteveTabernacle"][QUOTE="Snipes_2"] Man wasn't put on earth Immediately, they were in Paradise, which was not earth. Time doesn't work the Same in Paradise, therefore, dinosaurs could have existed before God put Adam and Eve on Earth. The "Talking Snake" was the Devil, God didn't place the Devil there.

You're making that stuff up off the top of your head. Besides, even if your theoretical god character didn't PUT the talking snake there, he knew it was there, and he allowed it to be there and do what it did.

God gave Adam and eve a Choice, eat the Fruit or don't. They ate it, Free Will. How am I "Making Stuff up off the top of my Head"?

He's omniscient according to the bible, therefore he already knew what they would do. The part you made up was the part about man not being out on the earth immediately, there is no biblical backing for that.
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#395 Snipes_2
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[QUOTE="scorch-62"][QUOTE="Snipes_2"][QUOTE="scorch-62"] And how is that?

Sarcasm and contempt? I'm not going to argue over your word use.

I'm just asking questions and seeking answers. I'm not arguing.

Okay, You are an Atheist. By referring to yourself as "Filthy" and Believers as having the "Inspired Word of God". Just sounds like Sarcasm to me.
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#396 SgtKevali
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[QUOTE="SgtKevali"]

[QUOTE="Snipes_2"] I used the Bible. Choosing not to believe it. Snipes_2

And how do you know what is written in the Bible is true?

How do you know it's not?

The auspice, again, is on you to prove it true, not for me to prove it "wrong". You can't disprove anything.

For example: I can't prove that pink fairies don't exist.

But the logical assumption isn't that they do exist. Until you prove something to be true or to exist, the logical step is not to believe in it or to have a lack of belief in it.

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#397 Snipes_2
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[QUOTE="SteveTabernacle"][QUOTE="Snipes_2"][QUOTE="SteveTabernacle"] You're making that stuff up off the top of your head. Besides, even if your theoretical god character didn't PUT the talking snake there, he knew it was there, and he allowed it to be there and do what it did.

God gave Adam and eve a Choice, eat the Fruit or don't. They ate it, Free Will. How am I "Making Stuff up off the top of my Head"?

He's omniscient according to the bible, therefore he already knew what they would do. The part you made up was the part about man not being out on the earth immediately, there is no biblical backing for that.

Wait, We're using the Bible now? I thought it wasn't a reliable source. Free-Will.
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#398 scorch-62
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[QUOTE="Snipes_2"][QUOTE="scorch-62"][QUOTE="Snipes_2"] Sarcasm and contempt? I'm not going to argue over your word use.

I'm just asking questions and seeking answers. I'm not arguing.

Okay, You are an Atheist. By referring to yourself as "Filthy" and Believers as having the "Inspired Word of God". Just sounds like Sarcasm to me.

How is it that you always seem to know more about my posts than I do?
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#399 SteveTabernacle
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Or if I'm in another debate they'll use me leaving as a point against me. Snipes_2
... you think that's harm? Dude.... it's just an internet forum.
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#400 urdead18
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[QUOTE="Snipes_2"][QUOTE="SteveTabernacle"][QUOTE="Snipes_2"] God gave Adam and eve a Choice, eat the Fruit or don't. They ate it, Free Will. How am I "Making Stuff up off the top of my Head"?

He's omniscient according to the bible, therefore he already knew what they would do. The part you made up was the part about man not being out on the earth immediately, there is no biblical backing for that.

Wait, We're using the Bible now? I thought it wasn't a reliable source. Free-Will.

Free will doesn't exist if there's an omniscient being involved.