First off, let me get this straight: I am not trying to prove anyone wrong by going into some big debate with you guys. I do this only for research purposes. I'm merely wondering what you guys believe backs up your theory of no god. That is all.
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First off, let me get this straight: I am not trying to prove anyone wrong by going into some big debate with you guys. I do this only for research purposes. I'm merely wondering what you guys believe backs up your theory of no god. That is all.
I don't believe in God because there's no evidence of god, quite simple really. The question should be how come people believe in god with no evidence.
the better question is: why do atheists feel that people are really interested in their argument about god? whenever they get the chance they will start talking **** about how science did this, and research did that, and homosexuality has been observed in 10000000 species.GazaAliI think someone is going to say the opposite...........
No empirical evidence.solid_marioLike everyone else in the thread, this's my answer. It's illogical to believe in something without evidence of it's existence. I also step from "Well I've no way of knowing, maybe he has a decent reason for hiding for 2000 years" to "there is no god" through the reasoning that any loving god would not damn people to hell just because they possess the ability to apply logic to their beliefs.
Lol @ people who are asking for evidence of God to believe in it.oh_bossnobody is asking for evidence because there isn't any
[QUOTE="Brainkiller05"][QUOTE="oh_boss"]Lol @ people who are asking for evidence of God to believe in it.oh_bossnobody is asking for evidence because there isn't any That's the point. so why believe in him? because people can't prove he doesn't exist? pretty weak reason to believe in something.
I admit the idea of living happily ever after in heaven with god and family members sounds fantastic, but let's be realistic here :lol: that's not going to happen
[QUOTE="KungfuKitten"]Is there evidence for science? I don't think so. JML897
...what?:?
People are often saying, that there is evidence for the world being a certain way and not for there being a God. That is not the real question. The question is whether there is proof for science, not for the things science proves.[QUOTE="JML897"][QUOTE="KungfuKitten"]Is there evidence for science? I don't think so. KungfuKitten
...what?:?
People are often saying, that there is evidence for the world being a certain way and not for there being a God. That is not the real question. The question is, whether there is proof for science, not for the things science proves. "a method of learning about the physical universe by applying the principles of the scientific method, which includes making empirical observations, proposing hypotheses to explain those observations, and testing those hypotheses in valid and reliable ways" yep science definitely exists[QUOTE="JML897"][QUOTE="KungfuKitten"]Is there evidence for science? I don't think so. KungfuKitten
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People are often saying, that there is evidence for the world being a certain way and not for there being a God. That is not the real question. The question is, whether there is proof for science, not for the things science proves. All technology is based on science. Technology is very easily observed to exist. Therefore science (which created it), must also exist.[QUOTE="KungfuKitten"][QUOTE="JML897"]People are often saying, that there is evidence for the world being a certain way and not for there being a God. That is not the real question. The question is, whether there is proof for science, not for the things science proves. "a method of learning about the physical universe by applying the principles of the scientific method, which includes making empirical observations, proposing hypotheses to explain those observations, and testing those hypotheses in valid and reliable ways" yep science definitely exists To be fair it sounds like something we made up. The question isn't whether it exists, but whether that take on reality is more probable to be true than there being a God. The scientific method isn't that easy to defend....what?:?
Brainkiller05
"a method of learning about the physical universe by applying the principles of the scientific method, which includes making empirical observations, proposing hypotheses to explain those observations, and testing those hypotheses in valid and reliable ways" yep science definitely exists To be fair it sounds like something we made up. The question isn't whether it exists, but whether that take on reality is more probable to be true than there being a God. The scientific method isn't that easy to defend. We just translated nature into our language. Just like a computer does with our language.[QUOTE="Brainkiller05"][QUOTE="KungfuKitten"] People are often saying, that there is evidence for the world being a certain way and not for there being a God. That is not the real question. The question is, whether there is proof for science, not for the things science proves.KungfuKitten
the better question is: why do atheists feel that people are really interested in their argument about god? whenever they get the chance they will start talking **** about how science did this, and research did that, and homosexuality has been observed in 10000000 species.GazaAli
Did you see who started the thread...?
"a method of learning about the physical universe by applying the principles of the scientific method, which includes making empirical observations, proposing hypotheses to explain those observations, and testing those hypotheses in valid and reliable ways" yep science definitely exists To be fair it sounds like something we made up. The question isn't whether it exists, but whether that take on reality is more probable to be true than there being a God. The scientific method isn't that easy to defend. Denying the existence of logical conclusions doesn't make science hard to defend, it makes you deluded.[QUOTE="Brainkiller05"][QUOTE="KungfuKitten"] People are often saying, that there is evidence for the world being a certain way and not for there being a God. That is not the real question. The question is, whether there is proof for science, not for the things science proves.KungfuKitten
oh yeah thats rite , this giant universe , the humans , everything , oh yeah it all came by itself , no one created them ! come on people the evidence is one thing , everything is an evidence , just because we are so intelligenty we reached the moon ?? you want a scientific evidence , then can anybody explain were did this universe come from ?? if your answer is the BIG BANG or the atoms , well from were did they come from ??gubrushadowperhaps the universe is magic? that's more likely than there being a magical being coming out of nothingness to create everything.
[QUOTE="GazaAli"]the better question is: why do atheists feel that people are really interested in their argument about god? whenever they get the chance they will start talking **** about how science did this, and research did that, and homosexuality has been observed in 10000000 species.X360PS3AMD05I think someone is going to say the opposite........... not really. its wether you believe in god or doesnt. if you ask for an evidence then you wont believe in him. live your life and die and see for yourself. if you got surprised that there is a god, then you have the eternity to look at the evidence and get owned.
[QUOTE="gubrushadow"]oh yeah thats rite , this giant universe , the humans , everything , oh yeah it all came by itself , no one created them ! come on people the evidence is one thing , everything is an evidence , just because we are so intelligenty we reached the moon ?? you want a scientific evidence , then can anybody explain were did this universe come from ?? if your answer is the BIG BANG or the atoms , well from were did they come from ??Brainkiller05perhaps the universe is magic? that's more likely than there being a magical being coming out of nothingness to create everything. define magic ?? and were did it come from ?? who did it ??
[QUOTE="KungfuKitten"]To be fair it sounds like something we made up. The question isn't whether it exists, but whether that take on reality is more probable to be true than there being a God. The scientific method isn't that easy to defend. Denying the existence of logical conclusions doesn't make science hard to defend, it makes you deluded. Ow please You are twisting my every word. Some people say 'i don't believe in God because of lack of evidence.' I say 'The idea of empirical evidence is as hard to defend as the idea of God.' I never meant that i didn't believe that science existed. Stop twisting my words it was very clear what i meant.[QUOTE="Brainkiller05"] "a method of learning about the physical universe by applying the principles of the scientific method, which includes making empirical observations, proposing hypotheses to explain those observations, and testing those hypotheses in valid and reliable ways" yep science definitely exists Gallion-Beast
oh yeah thats rite , this giant universe , the humans , everything , oh yeah it all came by itself , no one created them ! come on people the evidence is one thing , everything is an evidence , just because we are so intelligenty we reached the moon ?? you want a scientific evidence , then can anybody explain were did this universe come from ?? if your answer is the BIG BANG or the atoms , well from were did they come from ??gubrushadowNo one knows. But just because the is no known logical answer, doesn't mean you should mindlessly accept any illogical answer.
[QUOTE="gubrushadow"]oh yeah thats rite , this giant universe , the humans , everything , oh yeah it all came by itself , no one created them ! come on people the evidence is one thing , everything is an evidence , just because we are so intelligenty we reached the moon ?? you want a scientific evidence , then can anybody explain were did this universe come from ?? if your answer is the BIG BANG or the atoms , well from were did they come from ??Gallion-BeastNo one knows. But just because the is no known logical answer, doesn't mean you should mindlessly accept any illogical answer. QFT. By his logic, we wouldn't have progressed as humanity at all.
oh yeah thats rite , this giant universe , the humans , everything , oh yeah it all came by itself , no one created them ! come on people the evidence is one thing , everything is an evidence , just because we are so intelligenty we reached the moon ?? you want a scientific evidence , then can anybody explain were did this universe come from ?? if your answer is the BIG BANG or the atoms , well from were did they come from ??gubrushadowMaybe it's all just been here.
[QUOTE="Brainkiller05"][QUOTE="gubrushadow"]oh yeah thats rite , this giant universe , the humans , everything , oh yeah it all came by itself , no one created them ! come on people the evidence is one thing , everything is an evidence , just because we are so intelligenty we reached the moon ?? you want a scientific evidence , then can anybody explain were did this universe come from ?? if your answer is the BIG BANG or the atoms , well from were did they come from ??gubrushadowperhaps the universe is magic? that's more likely than there being a magical being coming out of nothingness to create everything. define magic ?? and were did it come from ?? who did it ?? So you'll happily believe a magical being came into existence from nothing and created everything but you wont believe the universe is capable of doing "magic" stuff such as coming into existence from nothing? Your level of thinking is so primitive it's pointless debating, you're just going to keep asking "well then who created the stuff that made the universe come into existence" it doesn't work like that, you know that.
[QUOTE="gubrushadow"]oh yeah thats rite , this giant universe , the humans , everything , oh yeah it all came by itself , no one created them ! come on people the evidence is one thing , everything is an evidence , just because we are so intelligenty we reached the moon ?? you want a scientific evidence , then can anybody explain were did this universe come from ?? if your answer is the BIG BANG or the atoms , well from were did they come from ??AAllxxjjnnMaybe it's all just been here. yes it has been here , but the question is how did it come ??
[QUOTE="AAllxxjjnn"][QUOTE="gubrushadow"]oh yeah thats rite , this giant universe , the humans , everything , oh yeah it all came by itself , no one created them ! come on people the evidence is one thing , everything is an evidence , just because we are so intelligenty we reached the moon ?? you want a scientific evidence , then can anybody explain were did this universe come from ?? if your answer is the BIG BANG or the atoms , well from were did they come from ??gubrushadowMaybe it's all just been here. yes it has been here , but the question is how did it come ?? we don't 100% know just like when we didn't know why it rained, there were people like you saying it was God crying because he was unhappy about how people were acting. Or when there was thunder, it was God being angry ofcourse once science explained why this stuff happened you people stopped saying such things.
[QUOTE="AAllxxjjnn"][QUOTE="gubrushadow"]oh yeah thats rite , this giant universe , the humans , everything , oh yeah it all came by itself , no one created them ! come on people the evidence is one thing , everything is an evidence , just because we are so intelligenty we reached the moon ?? you want a scientific evidence , then can anybody explain were did this universe come from ?? if your answer is the BIG BANG or the atoms , well from were did they come from ??gubrushadowMaybe it's all just been here. yes it has been here , but the question is how did it come ??
How did God come into existence then? Surely something had to create him right?
[QUOTE="AAllxxjjnn"][QUOTE="gubrushadow"]oh yeah thats rite , this giant universe , the humans , everything , oh yeah it all came by itself , no one created them ! come on people the evidence is one thing , everything is an evidence , just because we are so intelligenty we reached the moon ?? you want a scientific evidence , then can anybody explain were did this universe come from ?? if your answer is the BIG BANG or the atoms , well from were did they come from ??gubrushadowMaybe it's all just been here. yes it has been here , but the question is how did it come ?? You missed the point. I'm saying maybe it's all just been here, forever. Just sitting around, being infinite.
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