So Atheists, What's Your Rationale In Your Belief Of No God?

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#1 HipYoungster42
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First off, let me get this straight: I am not trying to prove anyone wrong by going into some big debate with you guys. I do this only for research purposes. I'm merely wondering what you guys believe backs up your theory of no god. That is all.

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#2 solid_mario
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No empirical evidence.
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The fact that the theory of god is backed up by nothing gives me no reason to believe in god
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#4 RearNakedChoke
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Complete lack of evidence?

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#5 Brainkiller05
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I don't believe in God because there's no evidence of god, quite simple really. The question should be how come people believe in god with no evidence.

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Things happen for no reason, energy can neither be created nor destroyed.
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the better question is: why do atheists feel that people are really interested in their argument about god? whenever they get the chance they will start talking **** about how science did this, and research did that, and homosexuality has been observed in 10000000 species.
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the better question is: why do atheists feel that people are really interested in their argument about god? whenever they get the chance they will start talking **** about how science did this, and research did that, and homosexuality has been observed in 10000000 species.GazaAli
I think someone is going to say the opposite...........
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#9 Gallion-Beast
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No empirical evidence.solid_mario
Like everyone else in the thread, this's my answer. It's illogical to believe in something without evidence of it's existence. I also step from "Well I've no way of knowing, maybe he has a decent reason for hiding for 2000 years" to "there is no god" through the reasoning that any loving god would not damn people to hell just because they possess the ability to apply logic to their beliefs.
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#10 oh_boss
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Lol @ people who are asking for evidence of God to believe in it.
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Is there evidence for science? I don't think so. You can simply say it works, but to what extend is unknown to us. I remain neutral.
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I don't think the idea of God is a realistic idea. And there's no evidence to show otherwise.
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Lol @ people who are asking for evidence of God to believe in it.oh_boss
nobody is asking for evidence because there isn't any
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#14 JML897
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Is there evidence for science? I don't think so. KungfuKitten

...what?:?

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#15 oh_boss
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[QUOTE="oh_boss"]Lol @ people who are asking for evidence of God to believe in it.Brainkiller05
nobody is asking for evidence because there isn't any

That's the point.
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[QUOTE="Brainkiller05"][QUOTE="oh_boss"]Lol @ people who are asking for evidence of God to believe in it.oh_boss
nobody is asking for evidence because there isn't any

That's the point.

so why believe in him? because people can't prove he doesn't exist? pretty weak reason to believe in something.

I admit the idea of living happily ever after in heaven with god and family members sounds fantastic, but let's be realistic here :lol: that's not going to happen

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[QUOTE="KungfuKitten"]Is there evidence for science? I don't think so. JML897

...what?:?

People are often saying, that there is evidence for the world being a certain way and not for there being a God. That is not the real question. The question is whether there is proof for science, not for the things science proves.
They are comparing science to religion, and science is much harder to defend than people think.

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Umm the idea of a God seems a bit stupid.
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[QUOTE="Brainkiller05"][QUOTE="oh_boss"][QUOTE="Brainkiller05"] nobody is asking for evidence because there isn't any

That's the point.

so why believe in him? because people can't prove he doesn't exist? pretty weak reason to believe in something I admit the idea of living happily ever after in heaven with god and family members sounds fantastic, but let's be realistic here :lol that's not going to happen

"Why smoke? Because you're destroying your lungs?" Also, christianity doesn't talk about those things you just said.
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[QUOTE="JML897"]

[QUOTE="KungfuKitten"]Is there evidence for science? I don't think so. KungfuKitten

...what?:?

People are often saying, that there is evidence for the world being a certain way and not for there being a God. That is not the real question. The question is, whether there is proof for science, not for the things science proves.

"a method of learning about the physical universe by applying the principles of the scientific method, which includes making empirical observations, proposing hypotheses to explain those observations, and testing those hypotheses in valid and reliable ways" yep science definitely exists
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[QUOTE="JML897"]

[QUOTE="KungfuKitten"]Is there evidence for science? I don't think so. KungfuKitten

...what?:?

People are often saying, that there is evidence for the world being a certain way and not for there being a God. That is not the real question. The question is, whether there is proof for science, not for the things science proves.

All technology is based on science. Technology is very easily observed to exist. Therefore science (which created it), must also exist.
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[QUOTE="oh_boss"][QUOTE="Brainkiller05"][QUOTE="oh_boss"] That's the point.

so why believe in him? because people can't prove he doesn't exist? pretty weak reason to believe in something I admit the idea of living happily ever after in heaven with god and family members sounds fantastic, but let's be realistic here :lol that's not going to happen

"Why smoke? Because you're destroying your lungs?" Also, christianity doesn't talk about those things you just said.

guess it doesn't talk about being punished forever because you don't believe in the magical being either?
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[QUOTE="KungfuKitten"][QUOTE="JML897"]

...what?:?

Brainkiller05

People are often saying, that there is evidence for the world being a certain way and not for there being a God. That is not the real question. The question is, whether there is proof for science, not for the things science proves.

"a method of learning about the physical universe by applying the principles of the scientific method, which includes making empirical observations, proposing hypotheses to explain those observations, and testing those hypotheses in valid and reliable ways" yep science definitely exists

To be fair it sounds like something we made up. The question isn't whether it exists, but whether that take on reality is more probable to be true than there being a God. The scientific method isn't that easy to defend.

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[QUOTE="Brainkiller05"][QUOTE="oh_boss"][QUOTE="Brainkiller05"] so why believe in him? because people can't prove he doesn't exist? pretty weak reason to believe in something I admit the idea of living happily ever after in heaven with god and family members sounds fantastic, but let's be realistic here :lol that's not going to happen

"Why smoke? Because you're destroying your lungs?" Also, christianity doesn't talk about those things you just said.

guess it doesn't talk about being punished forever because you don't believe in the magical being either?

First of all I'm an atheist, just to clear that out. Furthermore, define magical being.
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[QUOTE="Brainkiller05"][QUOTE="KungfuKitten"] People are often saying, that there is evidence for the world being a certain way and not for there being a God. That is not the real question. The question is, whether there is proof for science, not for the things science proves.KungfuKitten

"a method of learning about the physical universe by applying the principles of the scientific method, which includes making empirical observations, proposing hypotheses to explain those observations, and testing those hypotheses in valid and reliable ways" yep science definitely exists

To be fair it sounds like something we made up. The question isn't whether it exists, but whether that take on reality is more probable to be true than there being a God. The scientific method isn't that easy to defend.

We just translated nature into our language. Just like a computer does with our language.
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oh yeah thats rite , this giant universe , the humans , everything , oh yeah it all came by itself , no one created them ! come on people the evidence is one thing , everything is an evidence , just because we are so intelligenty we reached the moon ?? you want a scientific evidence , then can anybody explain were did this universe come from ?? if your answer is the BIG BANG or the atoms , well from were did they come from ??
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[QUOTE="oh_boss"][QUOTE="Brainkiller05"][QUOTE="oh_boss"] "Why smoke? Because you're destroying your lungs?" Also, christianity doesn't talk about those things you just said.

guess it doesn't talk about being punished forever because you don't believe in the magical being either?

First of all I'm an atheist, just to clear that out. Furthermore, define magical being.

This is pointless, how about no.
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the better question is: why do atheists feel that people are really interested in their argument about god? whenever they get the chance they will start talking **** about how science did this, and research did that, and homosexuality has been observed in 10000000 species.GazaAli

Did you see who started the thread...?

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[QUOTE="Brainkiller05"][QUOTE="KungfuKitten"] People are often saying, that there is evidence for the world being a certain way and not for there being a God. That is not the real question. The question is, whether there is proof for science, not for the things science proves.KungfuKitten

"a method of learning about the physical universe by applying the principles of the scientific method, which includes making empirical observations, proposing hypotheses to explain those observations, and testing those hypotheses in valid and reliable ways" yep science definitely exists

To be fair it sounds like something we made up. The question isn't whether it exists, but whether that take on reality is more probable to be true than there being a God. The scientific method isn't that easy to defend.

Denying the existence of logical conclusions doesn't make science hard to defend, it makes you deluded.
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oh yeah thats rite , this giant universe , the humans , everything , oh yeah it all came by itself , no one created them ! come on people the evidence is one thing , everything is an evidence , just because we are so intelligenty we reached the moon ?? you want a scientific evidence , then can anybody explain were did this universe come from ?? if your answer is the BIG BANG or the atoms , well from were did they come from ??gubrushadow
perhaps the universe is magic? that's more likely than there being a magical being coming out of nothingness to create everything.
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[QUOTE="GazaAli"]the better question is: why do atheists feel that people are really interested in their argument about god? whenever they get the chance they will start talking **** about how science did this, and research did that, and homosexuality has been observed in 10000000 species.X360PS3AMD05
I think someone is going to say the opposite...........

not really. its wether you believe in god or doesnt. if you ask for an evidence then you wont believe in him. live your life and die and see for yourself. if you got surprised that there is a god, then you have the eternity to look at the evidence and get owned.
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oh yeah , what happens after death do you know ??
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[QUOTE="Brainkiller05"][QUOTE="oh_boss"][QUOTE="Brainkiller05"] guess it doesn't talk about being punished forever because you don't believe in the magical being either?

First of all I'm an atheist, just to clear that out. Furthermore, define magical being.

This is pointless, how about no.

That's what I'm saying. Every person interprets religion as it suits them. It's like art.
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[QUOTE="gubrushadow"]oh yeah thats rite , this giant universe , the humans , everything , oh yeah it all came by itself , no one created them ! come on people the evidence is one thing , everything is an evidence , just because we are so intelligenty we reached the moon ?? you want a scientific evidence , then can anybody explain were did this universe come from ?? if your answer is the BIG BANG or the atoms , well from were did they come from ??Brainkiller05
perhaps the universe is magic? that's more likely than there being a magical being coming out of nothingness to create everything.

define magic ?? and were did it come from ?? who did it ??
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oh yeah , what happens after death do you know ??gubrushadow
The brain ceases to function so, chances are, nothing happens.
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[QUOTE="KungfuKitten"]

[QUOTE="Brainkiller05"] "a method of learning about the physical universe by applying the principles of the scientific method, which includes making empirical observations, proposing hypotheses to explain those observations, and testing those hypotheses in valid and reliable ways" yep science definitely exists Gallion-Beast

To be fair it sounds like something we made up. The question isn't whether it exists, but whether that take on reality is more probable to be true than there being a God. The scientific method isn't that easy to defend.

Denying the existence of logical conclusions doesn't make science hard to defend, it makes you deluded.

Ow please You are twisting my every word. Some people say 'i don't believe in God because of lack of evidence.' I say 'The idea of empirical evidence is as hard to defend as the idea of God.' I never meant that i didn't believe that science existed. Stop twisting my words it was very clear what i meant.
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oh yeah thats rite , this giant universe , the humans , everything , oh yeah it all came by itself , no one created them ! come on people the evidence is one thing , everything is an evidence , just because we are so intelligenty we reached the moon ?? you want a scientific evidence , then can anybody explain were did this universe come from ?? if your answer is the BIG BANG or the atoms , well from were did they come from ??gubrushadow
No one knows. But just because the is no known logical answer, doesn't mean you should mindlessly accept any illogical answer.
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[QUOTE="gubrushadow"]oh yeah thats rite , this giant universe , the humans , everything , oh yeah it all came by itself , no one created them ! come on people the evidence is one thing , everything is an evidence , just because we are so intelligenty we reached the moon ?? you want a scientific evidence , then can anybody explain were did this universe come from ?? if your answer is the BIG BANG or the atoms , well from were did they come from ??Gallion-Beast
No one knows. But just because the is no known logical answer, doesn't mean you should mindlessly accept any illogical answer.

QFT. By his logic, we wouldn't have progressed as humanity at all.
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oh yeah , what happens after death do you know ??gubrushadow

You know what happened for the billions of years before you were born? I'd imagine it feels something like that.

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oh yeah thats rite , this giant universe , the humans , everything , oh yeah it all came by itself , no one created them ! come on people the evidence is one thing , everything is an evidence , just because we are so intelligenty we reached the moon ?? you want a scientific evidence , then can anybody explain were did this universe come from ?? if your answer is the BIG BANG or the atoms , well from were did they come from ??gubrushadow
Maybe it's all just been here.
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I'm mentally unstable. Also, don't call me an atheist, pal.
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[QUOTE="Brainkiller05"][QUOTE="gubrushadow"]oh yeah thats rite , this giant universe , the humans , everything , oh yeah it all came by itself , no one created them ! come on people the evidence is one thing , everything is an evidence , just because we are so intelligenty we reached the moon ?? you want a scientific evidence , then can anybody explain were did this universe come from ?? if your answer is the BIG BANG or the atoms , well from were did they come from ??gubrushadow
perhaps the universe is magic? that's more likely than there being a magical being coming out of nothingness to create everything.

define magic ?? and were did it come from ?? who did it ??

So you'll happily believe a magical being came into existence from nothing and created everything but you wont believe the universe is capable of doing "magic" stuff such as coming into existence from nothing? Your level of thinking is so primitive it's pointless debating, you're just going to keep asking "well then who created the stuff that made the universe come into existence" it doesn't work like that, you know that.
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[QUOTE="gubrushadow"]oh yeah thats rite , this giant universe , the humans , everything , oh yeah it all came by itself , no one created them ! come on people the evidence is one thing , everything is an evidence , just because we are so intelligenty we reached the moon ?? you want a scientific evidence , then can anybody explain were did this universe come from ?? if your answer is the BIG BANG or the atoms , well from were did they come from ??AAllxxjjnn
Maybe it's all just been here.

yes it has been here , but the question is how did it come ??
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yes it has been here , but the question is how did it come ??gubrushadow
Perhaps it is infinite?
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[QUOTE="AAllxxjjnn"][QUOTE="gubrushadow"]oh yeah thats rite , this giant universe , the humans , everything , oh yeah it all came by itself , no one created them ! come on people the evidence is one thing , everything is an evidence , just because we are so intelligenty we reached the moon ?? you want a scientific evidence , then can anybody explain were did this universe come from ?? if your answer is the BIG BANG or the atoms , well from were did they come from ??gubrushadow
Maybe it's all just been here.

yes it has been here , but the question is how did it come ??

we don't 100% know just like when we didn't know why it rained, there were people like you saying it was God crying because he was unhappy about how people were acting. Or when there was thunder, it was God being angry ofcourse once science explained why this stuff happened you people stopped saying such things.
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[QUOTE="AAllxxjjnn"][QUOTE="gubrushadow"]oh yeah thats rite , this giant universe , the humans , everything , oh yeah it all came by itself , no one created them ! come on people the evidence is one thing , everything is an evidence , just because we are so intelligenty we reached the moon ?? you want a scientific evidence , then can anybody explain were did this universe come from ?? if your answer is the BIG BANG or the atoms , well from were did they come from ??gubrushadow
Maybe it's all just been here.

yes it has been here , but the question is how did it come ??

How did God come into existence then? Surely something had to create him right?

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[QUOTE="Brainkiller05"][QUOTE="gubrushadow"][QUOTE="Brainkiller05"] perhaps the universe is magic? that's more likely than there being a magical being coming out of nothingness to create everything.

define magic ?? and were did it come from ?? who did it ??

So you'll happily believe a magical being came into existence from nothing and created everything but you wont believe the universe is capable of doing "magic" stuff such as coming into existence from nothing? Your level of thinking is so primitive it's pointless debating, you're just going to keep asking "well then who created the stuff that made the universe come into existence" it doesn't work like that, you know that.

*sigh* yes i would cuz everything has an origin , the only thing that wont let you beleive in GOD is lucifer , anyway think what you want , its your choice not mine
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#49 AAllxxjjnn
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[QUOTE="AAllxxjjnn"][QUOTE="gubrushadow"]oh yeah thats rite , this giant universe , the humans , everything , oh yeah it all came by itself , no one created them ! come on people the evidence is one thing , everything is an evidence , just because we are so intelligenty we reached the moon ?? you want a scientific evidence , then can anybody explain were did this universe come from ?? if your answer is the BIG BANG or the atoms , well from were did they come from ??gubrushadow
Maybe it's all just been here.

yes it has been here , but the question is how did it come ??

You missed the point. I'm saying maybe it's all just been here, forever. Just sitting around, being infinite.
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#50 oh_boss
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[QUOTE="Brainkiller05"][QUOTE="gubrushadow"][QUOTE="Brainkiller05"] perhaps the universe is magic? that's more likely than there being a magical being coming out of nothingness to create everything.

define magic ?? and were did it come from ?? who did it ??

So you'll happily believe a magical being came into existence from nothing and created everything but you wont believe the universe is capable of doing "magic" stuff such as coming into existence from nothing? Your level of thinking is so primitive it's pointless debating, you're just going to keep asking "well then who created the stuff that made the universe come into existence" it doesn't work like that, you know that.

Dude, Religion isn't math. You can't take it literally, like you do.