In my personal oppinion rap should not be considered music. It should be considered a poetic art form. Which it is. Music is an art form. But like I said, rap isn't really music in my oppinion.
Why are you people trying to tell us what's music or not? There is a whole lot of crap that it considered music so why shouldn't rap be? try to original next time too
Why are you people trying to tell us what's music or not? There is a whole lot of crap that it considered music so why shouldn't rap be? try to original next time tooErasorn
Uh... What? There's more to rap than the commercial stuff you hear. Rapping can be combined with all kinds of instrumentation and dynamics. Rap may not be what you like but its pretty insulting to people who do like it to say it isn't music. It IS music. Rap has structures, complex rythms and can have experimental instrumentation. It can be a bit sparse melodically, but that can be said with any genre of music.
[QUOTE="Erasorn"]Why are you people trying to tell us what's music or not? There is a whole lot of crap that it considered music so why shouldn't rap be? try to original next time tooFunky_Llama
You know, you're really not contributing much.
Not really, but he's even made the exact same thread before which resulted in a sort of religious thread type of faith vs. facts
Uh... What? There's more to rap than the commercial stuff you hear. Rapping can be combined with all kinds of instrumentation and dynamics. Rap may not be what you like but its pretty insulting to people who do like it to say it isn't music. It IS music. Rap has structures, complex rythms and can have experimental instrumentation. It can be a bit sparse melodically, but that can be said with any genre of music.
manicfoot
I don't think that 'sparse melodically' can be said of any genre of music.
[QUOTE="Erasorn"]Why are you people trying to tell us what's music or not? There is a whole lot of crap that it considered music so why shouldn't rap be? try to original next time tooErasorn
You know, you're really not contributing much.
Not really, but he's even made the exact same thread before which resulted in a sort of religious thread type of faith vs. facts
[QUOTE="MistressMinako"]It's music. Not my favorite genre, but it's music. Plus, you just said music is art, and art is mainly being creative. Funky_Llama
I fail to see how computer-produced phat beetz with some people talking over it is creative.
[QUOTE="MistressMinako"]It's music. Not my favorite genre, but it's music. Plus, you just said music is art, and art is mainly being creative. Funky_Llama
I fail to see how computer-produced phat beetz with some people talking over it is creative.
I fail to see how playing power-chords is creative...
I think it should be. It has music in the background, with vocals. Regardless if it sounds more like poetry, it should still be regarded as music. It's not my genre of choice by any means, but it should still be considered music.
[QUOTE="MistressMinako"]It's music. Not my favorite genre, but it's music. Plus, you just said music is art, and art is mainly being creative. Funky_Llama
I fail to see how computer-produced phat beetz with some people talking over it is creative.
I fail to see how some crackhead playing a guitar completey wasted is creative.
[QUOTE="MistressMinako"]It's music. Not my favorite genre, but it's music. Plus, you just said music is art, and art is mainly being creative. -Austin-
I fail to see how computer-produced phat beetz with some people talking over it is creative.
I fail to see how playing power-chords is creative...
Really? Lots of very talented musicians have used power chords, and it sounds creative as hell. Tony Iommi is a perfect example. He's influenced so many guitarists, and a lot of Black Sabbath songs revolve around power chords.
[QUOTE="MistressMinako"]It's music. Not my favorite genre, but it's music. Plus, you just said music is art, and art is mainly being creative. swizz-the-gamer
I fail to see how computer-produced phat beetz with some people talking over it is creative.
I fail to see how some crackhead playing a guitar completey wasted is creative.
See the stupidity?
Who would you be talking about sir. Guitar playing is very creative. Just look at tom morello.
[QUOTE="MistressMinako"]It's music. Not my favorite genre, but it's music. Plus, you just said music is art, and art is mainly being creative. metallica_fan42
I fail to see how computer-produced phat beetz with some people talking over it is creative.
I fail to see how playing power-chords is creative...
Really? Lots of very talented musicians have used power chords, and it sounds creative as hell. Tony Iommi is a perfect example. He's influenced so many guitarists, and a lot of Black Sabbath songs revolve around power chords.
Lots of talented musicians have used computers to make "phat beetz", whatever a phat beet is...
[QUOTE="MistressMinako"]It's music. Not my favorite genre, but it's music. Plus, you just said music is art, and art is mainly being creative. -Austin-
I fail to see how computer-produced phat beetz with some people talking over it is creative.
I fail to see how some crackhead playing a guitar completey wasted is creative.
See the stupidity?
Who would you be talking about sir. Guitar playing is very creative. Just look at tom morello.
Rapping is very creative. Just look at Talib Kweli.
[QUOTE="MistressMinako"]It's music. Not my favorite genre, but it's music. Plus, you just said music is art, and art is mainly being creative. swizz-the-gamer
I fail to see how computer-produced phat beetz with some people talking over it is creative.
I fail to see how some crackhead playing a guitar completey wasted is creative.
See the stupidity?
Who would you be talking about sir. Guitar playing is very creative. Just look at tom morello. No it's not. Look at fallout boy! Im with you. Fall out boy are terrible. So is most mainstream rock.
People who think good rappers have no talent out of their minds, plain and simple. Rap is nowhere near my favourite genre, but if you really think you could write/rap anything as good as a skilled rapper (hint: not Lil Wayne or Soulja Boy) I would love some of what you're smoking.
EDIT: and if you're a death metal fan who likes screaming, please don't embarrass yourself further by calling rap "talking over beats".
[QUOTE="MistressMinako"]It's music. Not my favorite genre, but it's music. Plus, you just said music is art, and art is mainly being creative. swizz-the-gamer
I fail to see how computer-produced phat beetz with some people talking over it is creative.
I fail to see how some crackhead playing a guitar completey wasted is creative.
See the stupidity?
Who would you be talking about sir. Guitar playing is very creative. Just look at tom morello. No it's not. Look at fallout boy! Im with you. Fall out boy are terrible. So is most mainstream rock. No the mainstream of a genre represents the whole genre!
[QUOTE="MistressMinako"]It's music. Not my favorite genre, but it's music. Plus, you just said music is art, and art is mainly being creative. swizz-the-gamer
I fail to see how computer-produced phat beetz with some people talking over it is creative.
I fail to see how some crackhead playing a guitar completey wasted is creative.
See the stupidity?
Who would you be talking about sir. Guitar playing is very creative. Just look at tom morello.
Rapping is very creative. Just look at Talib Kweli.
[QUOTE="MistressMinako"]It's music. Not my favorite genre, but it's music. Plus, you just said music is art, and art is mainly being creative. swizz-the-gamer
I fail to see how computer-produced phat beetz with some people talking over it is creative.
I fail to see how some crackhead playing a guitar completey wasted is creative.
See the stupidity?
Who would you be talking about sir. Guitar playing is very creative. Just look at tom morello. No it's not. Look at fallout boy! Im with you. Fall out boy are terrible. So is most mainstream rock. No the mainstream of a genre represents the whole genre! I no what youre trying to get me to understand. You think im generalizing the whole genre of rap because of the mainstream rap like lil wayne. I just dont think that their is much rap that is good. You can name all the people you want. Ive heard most of the people youve named in the topic I made about a week ago. I just cant enjoy most of it.
If rap is so simple and easy.. then howcome none of you people bashing rap can get a rap deal? You can easily be making millions, could you not? Can you or can you not rap? If you could, you'd be doing. Since you can't, you're on gamespot complaining about it's popularity.
[QUOTE="Zaeryn"]Of course it's music. I think it's garbage music, but it's still music.swizz-the-gamer
Garbage? Listen to The Roots.I YouTube'd them and heard some guitaring and drums, so I wouldn't put them in the same category as the garbage rap that's just a repeated beat and rapping about something stupid.
People who think good rappers have no talent out of their minds, plain and simple. Rap is nowhere near my favourite genre, but if you really think you could write/rap anything as good as a skilled rapper (hint: not Lil Wayne or Soulja Boy) I would love some of what you're smoking.
EDIT: and if you're a death metal fan who likes screaming, please don't embarrass yourself further by calling rap "talking over beats".
Vyse_The_Daring
Sir thats what rap is. Id like to see you scream with as much emotion as a death metal singer.
[QUOTE="MistressMinako"]It's music. Not my favorite genre, but it's music. Plus, you just said music is art, and art is mainly being creative. swizz-the-gamer
I fail to see how computer-produced phat beetz with some people talking over it is creative.
I fail to see how some crackhead playing a guitar completey wasted is creative.
See the stupidity?
Who would you be talking about sir. Guitar playing is very creative. Just look at tom morello. No it's not. Look at fallout boy! Im with you. Fall out boy are terrible. So is most mainstream rock. No the mainstream of a genre represents the whole genre! I no what youre trying to get me to understand. You think im generalizing the whole genre of rap because of the mainstream rap like lil wayne. I just dont think that their is much rap that is good. You can name all the people you want. Ive heard most of the people youve named in the topic I made about a week ago. I just cant enjoy most of it. You not enjoying something makes it not music? Heavy metal is no longer music cause I say so!
[QUOTE="swizz-the-gamer"][QUOTE="Zaeryn"]Of course it's music. I think it's garbage music, but it's still music.Zaeryn
Garbage? Listen to The Roots.I YouTube'd them and heard some guitaring and drums, so I wouldn't put them in the same category as the garbage rap that's just a repeated beat and rapping about something stupid.Neither would I... Soulja Boy does not represent the genre of rap.Listen to A Tribe Called Quest, Nas, Lupe Fiasco, Bone Thugs N Harmony.etc and stop calling an entire genre of music when you have never even heard the freaking Roots!
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