Bloomberg Reports: Nintendo's DOMINATION of the industry has begun

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[QUOTE="goblaa"]

No, but he is underestimating how far devs will go if the Wii brings in the green for them.

the-very-best

I'm not. I expect Wii to get a lot of 3rd party support, and most of the games will be non gamer titles. Why? Because Wiisports is the best selling Wii game.

Wii having the non gamer market under control is the reason it will be more successful than the GC. 

[QUOTE="the-very-best"]

That's certainly what made the PS2 win.

OceanLeet

The PS2 won by having a massive variety of games available on the system. The PS3 has lost this variety. The 360 never had it. The Wii now does. I think the PS3 is a fantastic system for the hardcore market. I honestly like the system. I have a PS2. But the Wii is still going to dominate for the next few years at the very least.

PS3 hasn't lost its variety. I don't know why you would even say that.  Well, I do but...

Anyway, Wii has no major variety. It doesn't have GTAIV, Burnout 5, AC, VF5, Bioshock, SSX4, SC3, DMCIV, NG, RE5 etc. My point is that it's missing every major 3rd party game.

Every single one.

That's the reason the GC lost. It's the reason I see Wii coming 3rd. 

[QUOTE="OceanLeet"][QUOTE="the-very-best"]

That's certainly what made the PS2 win.

the-very-best

The PS2 won by having a massive variety of games available on the system. The PS3 has lost this variety. The 360 never had it. The Wii now does. I think the PS3 is a fantastic system for the hardcore market. I honestly like the system. I have a PS2. But the Wii is still going to dominate for the next few years at the very least.

PS3 hasn't lost its variety. I don't know why you would even say that.  Well, I do but...

Anyway, Wii has no major variety. It doesn't have GTAIV, Burnout 5, AC, VF5, Bioshock, SSX4, SC3, DMCIV, NG, RE5 etc. My point is that it's missing every major 3rd party game.

Every single one.

That's the reason the GC lost. It's the reason I see Wii coming 3rd. 

I would not be surprised if we saw more then one of those games on the wii.

[QUOTE="OceanLeet"][QUOTE="the-very-best"]

That's certainly what made the PS2 win.

the-very-best

The PS2 won by having a massive variety of games available on the system. The PS3 has lost this variety. The 360 never had it. The Wii now does. I think the PS3 is a fantastic system for the hardcore market. I honestly like the system. I have a PS2. But the Wii is still going to dominate for the next few years at the very least.

PS3 hasn't lost its variety. I don't know why you would even say that.  Well, I do but...

Anyway, Wii has no major variety. It doesn't have GTAIV, Burnout 5, AC, VF5, Bioshock, SSX4, SC3, DMCIV, NG, RE5 etc. My point is that it's missing every major 3rd party game.

Every single one.

That's the reason the GC lost. It's the reason I see Wii coming 3rd. 

[QUOTE="the-very-best"][QUOTE="OceanLeet"][QUOTE="the-very-best"]

That's certainly what made the PS2 win.

InfamousC

The PS2 won by having a massive variety of games available on the system. The PS3 has lost this variety. The 360 never had it. The Wii now does. I think the PS3 is a fantastic system for the hardcore market. I honestly like the system. I have a PS2. But the Wii is still going to dominate for the next few years at the very least.

PS3 hasn't lost its variety. I don't know why you would even say that. Well, I do but...

Anyway, Wii has no major variety. It doesn't have GTAIV, Burnout 5, AC, VF5, Bioshock, SSX4, SC3, DMCIV, NG, RE5 etc. My point is that it's missing every major 3rd party game.

Every single one.

That's the reason the GC lost. It's the reason I see Wii coming 3rd.

I would not be surprised if we saw more then one of those games on the wii.

 You expect to see GTA, Bioshock, VF5, DMCIV, NG, or RE5 on the Wii?  

[QUOTE="OceanLeet"][QUOTE="the-very-best"]

That's certainly what made the PS2 win.

the-very-best

The PS2 won by having a massive variety of games available on the system. The PS3 has lost this variety. The 360 never had it. The Wii now does. I think the PS3 is a fantastic system for the hardcore market. I honestly like the system. I have a PS2. But the Wii is still going to dominate for the next few years at the very least.

PS3 hasn't lost its variety. I don't know why you would even say that. Well, I do but...

Anyway, Wii has no major variety. It doesn't have GTAIV, Burnout 5, AC, VF5, Bioshock, SSX4, SC3, DMCIV, NG, RE5 etc. My point is that it's missing every major 3rd party game.

Every single one.

That's the reason the GC lost. It's the reason I see Wii coming 3rd.

One of the reasons the GC lost was because it was cheaper to develop for on the PS2.  Kinda like the Wii is now.  And you're still placing far too much faith in game titles.  And yes, the PS3 has lost it's variety.  Notice that almost all of the good games coming for the PS3 are sequels of older games.  Where is the variety?  Where is the freshness?  ...on the Wii :)

[QUOTE="InfamousC"][QUOTE="the-very-best"][QUOTE="OceanLeet"][QUOTE="the-very-best"]

That's certainly what made the PS2 win.

Teufelhuhn

The PS2 won by having a massive variety of games available on the system. The PS3 has lost this variety. The 360 never had it. The Wii now does. I think the PS3 is a fantastic system for the hardcore market. I honestly like the system. I have a PS2. But the Wii is still going to dominate for the next few years at the very least.

PS3 hasn't lost its variety. I don't know why you would even say that. Well, I do but...

Anyway, Wii has no major variety. It doesn't have GTAIV, Burnout 5, AC, VF5, Bioshock, SSX4, SC3, DMCIV, NG, RE5 etc. My point is that it's missing every major 3rd party game.

Every single one.

That's the reason the GC lost. It's the reason I see Wii coming 3rd.

I would not be surprised if we saw more then one of those games on the wii.

You expect to see GTA, Bioshock, VF5, DMCIV, NG, or RE5 on the Wii?

Read several pages back.  Versions and spinoffs of many of those games are coming to the Wii.  Read the link the TC gave on page 1.

[QUOTE="InfamousC"][QUOTE="the-very-best"][QUOTE="OceanLeet"][QUOTE="the-very-best"]

That's certainly what made the PS2 win.

Teufelhuhn

The PS2 won by having a massive variety of games available on the system. The PS3 has lost this variety. The 360 never had it. The Wii now does. I think the PS3 is a fantastic system for the hardcore market. I honestly like the system. I have a PS2. But the Wii is still going to dominate for the next few years at the very least.

PS3 hasn't lost its variety. I don't know why you would even say that. Well, I do but...

Anyway, Wii has no major variety. It doesn't have GTAIV, Burnout 5, AC, VF5, Bioshock, SSX4, SC3, DMCIV, NG, RE5 etc. My point is that it's missing every major 3rd party game.

Every single one.

That's the reason the GC lost. It's the reason I see Wii coming 3rd.

I would not be surprised if we saw more then one of those games on the wii.

 You expect to see GTA, Bioshock, VF5, DMCIV, NG, or RE5 on the Wii?  

What part of this do u guys not understand, The Wii makes 3rd parties serious $... so despite your fanboy delusions of loyalty, they'll go where the money is.

pretty much the jist of this thread.

Couple Nintendo's first party strength (stronger than MS or Sony in this regard), with their new found third party support, and bang Nintendo wins this gen without breaking a sweat...

something they're already doing. 

lets see spend 5 million on a Wii game or 30 million on a PS3 or 360 game.....I think in the end we all know who going to get the most 3rd party games the question is will they be good

[QUOTE="Teufelhuhn"][QUOTE="InfamousC"][QUOTE="the-very-best"][QUOTE="OceanLeet"][QUOTE="the-very-best"]

That's certainly what made the PS2 win.

jedigemini

The PS2 won by having a massive variety of games available on the system. The PS3 has lost this variety. The 360 never had it. The Wii now does. I think the PS3 is a fantastic system for the hardcore market. I honestly like the system. I have a PS2. But the Wii is still going to dominate for the next few years at the very least.

PS3 hasn't lost its variety. I don't know why you would even say that. Well, I do but...

Anyway, Wii has no major variety. It doesn't have GTAIV, Burnout 5, AC, VF5, Bioshock, SSX4, SC3, DMCIV, NG, RE5 etc. My point is that it's missing every major 3rd party game.

Every single one.

That's the reason the GC lost. It's the reason I see Wii coming 3rd.

I would not be surprised if we saw more then one of those games on the wii.

 You expect to see GTA, Bioshock, VF5, DMCIV, NG, or RE5 on the Wii?  

What part of this do u guys not understand, The Wii makes 3rd parties serious $... so despite your fanboy delusions of loyalty, they'll go where the money is.

pretty much the jist of this thread.

Couple Nintendo's first party strength (stronger than MS or Sony in this regard), with their new found third party support, and bang Nintendo wins this gen without breaking a sweat...

something they're already doing. 

[QUOTE="dustin-diamond"]

My favorite part of the article:

"Developers are going to have to give the Wii their best branded products"

jedigemini

hmmmmmmm, I reallly dont want Crysis on the Wii, The should cancel the the pc version, j/k, If you didnt relise that this actually could put the gaming indrusty in a bad postion, Im not against the Wii but i aint playing some Wii game on my 360 without the control and slightly better graphics, Id go into pc gaming and take a huge dump on my Wii.

[QUOTE="jedigemini"][QUOTE="Teufelhuhn"][QUOTE="InfamousC"][QUOTE="the-very-best"][QUOTE="OceanLeet"][QUOTE="the-very-best"]

That's certainly what made the PS2 win.

dustin-diamond

The PS2 won by having a massive variety of games available on the system. The PS3 has lost this variety. The 360 never had it. The Wii now does. I think the PS3 is a fantastic system for the hardcore market. I honestly like the system. I have a PS2. But the Wii is still going to dominate for the next few years at the very least.

PS3 hasn't lost its variety. I don't know why you would even say that. Well, I do but...

Anyway, Wii has no major variety. It doesn't have GTAIV, Burnout 5, AC, VF5, Bioshock, SSX4, SC3, DMCIV, NG, RE5 etc. My point is that it's missing every major 3rd party game.

Every single one.

That's the reason the GC lost. It's the reason I see Wii coming 3rd.

I would not be surprised if we saw more then one of those games on the wii.

 You expect to see GTA, Bioshock, VF5, DMCIV, NG, or RE5 on the Wii?  

What part of this do u guys not understand, The Wii makes 3rd parties serious $... so despite your fanboy delusions of loyalty, they'll go where the money is.

pretty much the jist of this thread.

Couple Nintendo's first party strength (stronger than MS or Sony in this regard), with their new found third party support, and bang Nintendo wins this gen without breaking a sweat...

something they're already doing. 

Yeah of course because when you have the whole of last gen back catalouge to choose from then im sure they will have more.

[QUOTE="the-very-best"][QUOTE="OceanLeet"][QUOTE="the-very-best"]

That's certainly what made the PS2 win.

OceanLeet

The PS2 won by having a massive variety of games available on the system. The PS3 has lost this variety. The 360 never had it. The Wii now does. I think the PS3 is a fantastic system for the hardcore market. I honestly like the system. I have a PS2. But the Wii is still going to dominate for the next few years at the very least.

PS3 hasn't lost its variety. I don't know why you would even say that. Well, I do but...

Anyway, Wii has no major variety. It doesn't have GTAIV, Burnout 5, AC, VF5, Bioshock, SSX4, SC3, DMCIV, NG, RE5 etc. My point is that it's missing every major 3rd party game.

Every single one.

That's the reason the GC lost. It's the reason I see Wii coming 3rd.

One of the reasons the GC lost was because it was cheaper to develop for on the PS2.  Kinda like the Wii is now.  And you're still placing far too much faith in game titles.  And yes, the PS3 has lost it's variety.  Notice that almost all of the good games coming for the PS3 are sequels of older games.  Where is the variety?  Where is the freshness?  ...on the Wii :)

What varitey has the Wii got over the Ps3, It has Wario Ware which is the same as any other WW, Zelda which is just another Zelda and then you got Spm which is Spm other than that the Wii is getting the same games as the Ps3/360 just with the controls and dated graphics and the ps2 or psp ports, The Ps3 will have great varitey in the future as i assume that the Wii will has it to.

``It's not really a bet anymore,'' he said. ``It's a viable system that's going to make us money.'' Yeah keep dumping us more ports :|Hir0_N

My favorite part of the article:

"Developers are going to have to give the Wii their best branded products"

Im still waiting for theverybest to explain how three series on a severe decline is going to save the PS3.MasterChumly

wait a minute...is there gonna be a gta game for wii?wii4panta

[QUOTE="wii4panta"]wait a minute...is there gonna be a gta game for wii?jedigemini

[QUOTE="jedigemini"][QUOTE="wii4panta"]wait a minute...is there gonna be a gta game for wii?wii4panta

[QUOTE="OceanLeet"][QUOTE="the-very-best"]

That's certainly what made the PS2 win.

the-very-best

The PS2 won by having a massive variety of games available on the system. The PS3 has lost this variety. The 360 never had it. The Wii now does. I think the PS3 is a fantastic system for the hardcore market. I honestly like the system. I have a PS2. But the Wii is still going to dominate for the next few years at the very least.

PS3 hasn't lost its variety. I don't know why you would even say that. Well, I do but...

Anyway, Wii has no major variety. It doesn't have GTAIV, Burnout 5, AC, VF5, Bioshock, SSX4, SC3, DMCIV, NG, RE5 etc. My point is that it's missing every major 3rd party game.

Every single one.

That's the reason the GC lost. It's the reason I see Wii coming 3rd.

Wow you people love jumping the gun!!!!Ericvon71

Breaking news:

Gamefront and Go Nintendo.

- Nintendo is going to hold a retailer meeting in Japan on Wednesday 11th (tomorrow) to show off upcoming games.

- Nintendo is increasing the shipments of Wii in Japan beginning this week. I'm presuming this is a result of the increased manufacture about to hit retail.

- Dragon Quest Swords has been dated for July 12th in Japan (creamsugar says this is from a reliable source and the info has also been posted by Gamefront).


EDIT:
- Also, as an update to the Wii situation, in addition to increasing output from their current partner, FPC, Nintendo is looking for an additional company to manufacture the hardware:
DigiTimes

lets see spend 5 million on a Wii game or 30 million on a PS3 or 360 game.....I think in the end we all know who going to get the most 3rd party games the question is will they be good

HarlockJC

Wow you people love jumping the gun!!!!Ericvon71

[QUOTE="Ericvon71"]Wow you people love jumping the gun!!!!Ontain

Exactly :D

[QUOTE="InfamousC"][QUOTE="the-very-best"][QUOTE="OceanLeet"][QUOTE="the-very-best"]

That's certainly what made the PS2 win.

Teufelhuhn

The PS2 won by having a massive variety of games available on the system. The PS3 has lost this variety. The 360 never had it. The Wii now does. I think the PS3 is a fantastic system for the hardcore market. I honestly like the system. I have a PS2. But the Wii is still going to dominate for the next few years at the very least.

PS3 hasn't lost its variety. I don't know why you would even say that. Well, I do but...

Anyway, Wii has no major variety. It doesn't have GTAIV, Burnout 5, AC, VF5, Bioshock, SSX4, SC3, DMCIV, NG, RE5 etc. My point is that it's missing every major 3rd party game.

Every single one.

That's the reason the GC lost. It's the reason I see Wii coming 3rd.

I would not be surprised if we saw more then one of those games on the wii.

 You expect to see GTA, Bioshock, VF5, DMCIV, NG, or RE5 on the Wii?  

[QUOTE="Teufelhuhn"][QUOTE="InfamousC"][QUOTE="the-very-best"][QUOTE="OceanLeet"][QUOTE="the-very-best"]

That's certainly what made the PS2 win.

Tylendal

The PS2 won by having a massive variety of games available on the system. The PS3 has lost this variety. The 360 never had it. The Wii now does. I think the PS3 is a fantastic system for the hardcore market. I honestly like the system. I have a PS2. But the Wii is still going to dominate for the next few years at the very least.

PS3 hasn't lost its variety. I don't know why you would even say that. Well, I do but...

Anyway, Wii has no major variety. It doesn't have GTAIV, Burnout 5, AC, VF5, Bioshock, SSX4, SC3, DMCIV, NG, RE5 etc. My point is that it's missing every major 3rd party game.

Every single one.

That's the reason the GC lost. It's the reason I see Wii coming 3rd.

I would not be surprised if we saw more then one of those games on the wii.

You expect to see GTA, Bioshock, VF5, DMCIV, NG, or RE5 on the Wii?

What is funny is the fact that some people dont realize that even if they were correct in saying that Wii only attracts non-gamers (which is pretty ridiculous) non gamers still outnumber hardcores enormously....sHaDyCuBe321

[QUOTE="sHaDyCuBe321"]What is funny is the fact that some people dont realize that even if they were correct in saying that Wii only attracts non-gamers (which is pretty ridiculous) non gamers still outnumber hardcores enormously....Tylendal

My thread reached over 300 posts, 17 pages?

damage control must be in full effect.

I said it before in another thread:

-Nintendo is dominating, while M$ and Phony are fighting over the scraps. They are like homeless rummaging through garbage, while Nintendo dines out on Filet Mignon.

I said it before in another thread:

-Nintendo is dominating, while M$ and Phony are fighting over the scraps. They are like homeless rummaging through garbage, while Nintendo dines out on Filet Mignon.

Number_1_Gamer

The Wii is going to die out buddy, it s jsut a matter of time now. Sure it seems fun to play at first, but it is crap for hardcore gamers. Only three types of people buy the Wii in my perspective: people who are just breaking into the gaming society, people whoa re rich enough to afford multiple systems (Wii + 360/PS3), or little kids with ADD/ ADHD.Setsa

Yeah, because little kids with ADD hate playing twitch games like FPSers and arcade racers.  And the Wii has a ton of those compared to say, the 360.

I am sick of this rampant ignorance that hardcore gamers are people who only play M games and FPSers.  It pisses me off.  I've been gaming since consoles first appeared in homes.  I've owned numerous consoles and handhelds and I follow the industry religiously.   ANd you know what?  I bought a Wii.  Why?  Because as a "hardcore gamer" I care about all games as long as they are fun and entertaining to play.  And as a hardcore gamer I am sick of the militantly vocal minority thinking they know what they are talking about yet look like fools everytime they open their biased fanboy mouths. 

If you judge consoles by their ratings and not by great games...then you, sir, are not hardcore.  You are a poser.  You are a fraud.  Stop making those of us who are REAL gamers look bad by making such ignorant and insulting posts.

[QUOTE="Setsa"]The Wii is going to die out buddy, it s jsut a matter of time now. Sure it seems fun to play at first, but it is crap for hardcore gamers. Only three types of people buy the Wii in my perspective: people who are just breaking into the gaming society, people whoa re rich enough to afford multiple systems (Wii + 360/PS3), or little kids with ADD/ ADHD.Rosencrantz

Yeah, because little kids with ADD hate playing twitch games like FPSers and arcade racers. And the Wii has a ton of those compared to say, the 360.

I am sick of this rampant ignorance that hardcore gamers are people who only play M games and FPSers. It pisses me off. I've been gaming since consoles first appeared in homes. I've owned numerous consoles and handhelds and I follow the industry religiously. ANd you know what? I bought a Wii. Why? Because as a "hardcore gamer" I care about all games as long as they are fun and entertaining to play. And as a hardcore gamer I am sick of the militantly vocal minority thinking they know what they are talking about yet look like fools everytime they open their biased fanboy mouths.

If you judge consoles by their ratings and not by great games...then you, sir, are not hardcore. You are a poser. You are a fraud. Stop making those of us who are REAL gamers look bad by making such ignorant and insulting posts.

Ubisoft, based in the Paris suburb of Montreuil-Sous-Bois, had seven Wii games out by December and plans six more by June, said Tony Key, vice president of marketing.

"It's not really a bet anymore,'' he said. "It's a viable system that's going to make us money.''

:lol:

Ubisoft, based in the Paris suburb of Montreuil-Sous-Bois, had seven Wii games out by December and plans six more by June, said Tony Key, vice president of marketing.

"It's not really a bet anymore,'' he said. "It's a viable system that's going to make us money.''

:lol:

Wintry_Flutist

 yea we know.  Ubi is doing their best EA impersonation these days.  I realized they had turned when they tried to charge $15 for the GRAW Chapter 2 expansion pack that came FREE to PC gamers.  

That was the moment Ubisoft got on my *hit list.

Ubisoft, based in the Paris suburb of Montreuil-Sous-Bois, had seven Wii games out by December and plans six more by June, said Tony Key, vice president of marketing.

"It's not really a bet anymore,'' he said. "It's a viable system that's going to make us money.''

:lol:

Wintry_Flutist

the wii is a success. ive been gaming since i was 5. started on the NES. i would call myself a hardcore gamer. i like the complex games like zelda, metriod, halo, god of war, FPS and what not. but ive got to say there is a lot of 3rd party help coming to the wii. u cant deny its success. and as long as the wii keeps getting developers that means only one thing. new games. not only those companies established franchises but totally new ips. the wii is already getting acclaimed franchises such as Guitar Hero, Man Hunt, Raw Vs Smackdown, RE, MK, the list goes on and the list will conitinue to go on. i own a wii and its awesome. i love the games for wii. red steel is fun, sure its got issues but what game doesnt. show me a perfect game. i guarntee u cant find one. not on the wii, ps2, ps3, xbox or 360. every game has its flaws. big whoop. the fact of the matter is the wii is getting support. its already got more 3rd party support than the gamecube had. its not a novelty item. its a gaming system.

i also hate how there are people here trying to explain the direction of nintendo. nintendo is going after casual gamer and bringing in new crowds to gaming. well no crap. if u would have paid attention for the past year and half, thats what nintendo SAID all along. they said they werent gonna be in the same market as Microsoft and Sony. as those companies are graphical companies. their systems are just hypercharged versions of their old ones. at least nintendo took a chance to do something different and breathe new life into the video game industry. which is pretty obvious they did. and i dont think its going anywhere. anytime soon. 

THE KING OF THE GAMING INDUSTRY IS BACK!!! LONG LIVE NINTENDO!!!KILLERJAK702KA

There's no way I'm reading 7 pages of nonsense so I'll just comment on the report.

Congratulations Nintendo! Wii knew you could do it!

Change can be a good thing and the gaming industry was getting stale. This could be a great revolution in gaming or real gaming could revert to it's nerdy stereotype because the market leader turned our hobby into a kiddy/toy/gimmick/fad. We'll see. 

And yet, the games still suck. I'd rather have the less sold xbox 360 with good games than the new fad wii with crappy games. Golden_surfer

because they were rushed to development... give it time and the Wii will have a better library than 360 or PS3.

[QUOTE="Setsa"]The Wii is going to die out buddy, it s jsut a matter of time now. Sure it seems fun to play at first, but it is crap for hardcore gamers. Only three types of people buy the Wii in my perspective: people who are just breaking into the gaming society, people whoa re rich enough to afford multiple systems (Wii + 360/PS3), or little kids with ADD/ ADHD.Rosencrantz

Yeah, because little kids with ADD hate playing twitch games like FPSers and arcade racers. And the Wii has a ton of those compared to say, the 360.

I am sick of this rampant ignorance that hardcore gamers are people who only play M games and FPSers. It pisses me off. I've been gaming since consoles first appeared in homes. I've owned numerous consoles and handhelds and I follow the industry religiously. ANd you know what? I bought a Wii. Why? Because as a "hardcore gamer" I care about all games as long as they are fun and entertaining to play. And as a hardcore gamer I am sick of the militantly vocal minority thinking they know what they are talking about yet look like fools everytime they open their biased fanboy mouths.

If you judge consoles by their ratings and not by great games...then you, sir, are not hardcore. You are a poser. You are a fraud. Stop making those of us who are REAL gamers look bad by making such ignorant and insulting posts.

You're as much of a tool for speaking out and rambling quick biased judgement about hardcore gamers. In case you didn't know, which is quite obvious, there are Core Gamers out there who have different taste than YOU do. It really depends on what the Core gamers are into these days.

I'm 29, and been gaming since 1982, with the Atari 400 as my 1st ever console.  Since then and for the past 22 years after the NES release, my taste in games have "evolved". Occasionally, I love the pick and play games like Tetris on my old GB. To this day, I'm still addicted to Tetris. But I also love the mature, complex games that we have today, with some minor exceptions (I despise RPGs). I'm mostly into FPS, RTS, Sim Racers, Action-adventure. 

The point of all this is just because YOU'RE a hardcore gamer, doesn't necessarilly mean all OTHER hardcore gamers have to like what the Wii has to offer. Honestly, the Wii, IMO, just doesn't cut it. As for Nintendo, their 1st party titles have been pretty mediocre at best, in the past few years. The last Nintendo game I played was LoZTP on GC and it was a great game, but not better than OoT. 

From my PoV and as a Core Gamer, Nintendo can reap all the benefits as a successful gaming company. Good for them for redeeming themselves, Good for them for expanding the market. That's the way big businesses survive in this type of industry. But as far as the games are concerned, I'd rather look to other platforms and enjoy the games that serve my interests and taste.  

Third party devs rushing to Nintendo? Nintendo outselling Sony?

Me, Doc, and Marty are going to go back to last year to post this thread in SW, I'll let you know how it fares.

[QUOTE="Golden_surfer"]And yet, the games still suck. I'd rather have the less sold xbox 360 with good games than the new fad wii with crappy games. jedigemini

because they were rushed to development... give it time and the Wii will have a better library than 360 or PS3.