Demon's Souls Should Not be AAA

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#1 WINDWAKER1
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It makes me laugh because it's so similar to ninja gaiden. So many people are psyched for it, and 80% of those psyched people will quit after the second level (Exactly like ninja gaiden). This game does not deserve AAA at all, games should atleast try to be somewhat accessable, and if they aren't they should get a worse score. AAA games need to be moderately simple for casuals, but have that deeper layer of strategy for the hardcore.

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#2 superapo
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have you played it?

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#3 Trinners
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it's so similar to ninja gaiden.

WINDWAKER1

Stopped reading right there.

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#4 Phoenix534
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How about an option that says, "It's an incredible that deserves AAA. I'm a Manticore."

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#5 Blixxed
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I probably won't be getting it, still got Uncharted 2 though. :p

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#6 WINDWAKER1
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[QUOTE="WINDWAKER1"]

it's so similar to ninja gaiden.

Trinners

Stopped reading right there.

They're both really difficult, so yes they are similar in that regard

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#7 Phoenix534
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It makes me laugh because it's so similar to ninja gaiden.

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You've lost all credibility.

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#8 deactivated-5e836a855beb2
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Have you even played it?
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#9 WINDWAKER1
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How about an option that says, "It's an incredible that deserves AAA. I'm a Manticore."

Phoenix534

They aren't real

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#10 Shewgenja
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How about an option that says, "It's an incredible that deserves AAA. I'm a Manticore."

Phoenix534

I'm a whatever but I cosign that. It's a really good game and I don't get this Ninja Gaiden nonsense at all.

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#11 h575309
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[QUOTE="Trinners"]

[QUOTE="WINDWAKER1"]

it's so similar to ninja gaiden.

Stopped reading right there.

Seriously. Thanks for playing, please come again.
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#12 Kashiwaba
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I dont consider myself a hardcore gamer but yet I find Demon's souls as an easy game its not as hard as what some people making it seem.

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#14 Yandere
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Your joking?

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I voted for you for the best topic creator. :lol:

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#16 superapo
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It makes me laugh because it's so similar to ninja gaiden. So many people are psyched for it, and 80% of those psyched people will quit after the second level (Exactly like ninja gaiden). This game does not deserve AAA at all, games should atleast try to be somewhat accessable, and if they aren't they should get a worse score. AAA games need to be moderately simple for casuals, but have that deeper layer of strategy for the hardcore.

WINDWAKER1
have you played it
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#18 deactivated-5b19214ec908b
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why is it that most of the people who hate the difficulty are the people who havent played it?

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#19 W1ckedGo0se
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I have not played it yet, but I like games to be hard... I don't understand why people only play games that are easy and are scared off by hard games that are rewarding... Easy games are fun, but so are Hard games once you learn how to play..
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#20 WINDWAKER1
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[QUOTE="Trinners"]

[QUOTE="WINDWAKER1"]

it's so similar to ninja gaiden.

WINDWAKER1

Stopped reading right there.

They're both really difficult, so yes they are similar in that regard

I would just like to post this again for the faceless, unimaginative posters of gamespot that take everything really seriously

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#21 jonnyt61
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It makes me laugh because it's so similar to ninja gaiden. So many people are psyched for it, and 80% of those psyched people will quit after the second level (Exactly like ninja gaiden). This game does not deserve AAA at all, games should atleast try to be somewhat accessable, and if they aren't they should get a worse score. AAA games need to be moderately simple for casuals, but have that deeper layer of strategy for the hardcore.

WINDWAKER1
God, stop with the mindless vendetta against certain games just because you don't like it. Seriously, you're acting like a jealous child. The game is a well put together game, with an extremely impressive atmosphere, and the ability to make everything seem that much more rewarding, because of the punishing difficulty. It doesn't matter if the average gamer can't play it, and they give up. The game is targeted at a niche audience, it isn't trying to be main stream and accepted by all gamers, it is intentionally difficult, it is intentionally punishing to mistakes. It is designed that way on purpose, to improve the atmosphere behind the game, and give a sense of hopeless desperation against what is essentially a dead world. The game has received critical praise by virtually every respected media source. If the difficulty was really that much of a detriment, to the point it was unplayable, it wouldn't be AAA. Coincidentally, the difficulty is one of the reasons it's been getting so much praise. The formula of dying, to teach you, is working as intended. I don't think anyone can ask for it to do more than what it wanted to do.
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#22 superapo
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[QUOTE="Jandurin"]Have you even played it?WINDWAKER1

Nope, but I'm ready to argue all day, hence the creation of this thread

then you can't say a thing
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#23 aroxx_ab
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To say this is lika Ninja gaiden is proof that you not played this game...this game is not even THAT hard if you take time to learn how to play.

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#24 Shewgenja
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[QUOTE="Jandurin"]Have you even played it?WINDWAKER1

Nope, but I'm ready to argue all day, hence the creation of this thread

I'm quite glad we have that covered. Carry on.

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#25 Rza_rectah
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[QUOTE="Trinners"]

[QUOTE="WINDWAKER1"]

it's so similar to ninja gaiden.

Stopped reading right there.

Same people need to stop complaining about the games difficulty. 80 percent of the people who bought it wont finish it WTF? To trinners why does the dude in your pic have a swastika on his back i know that symbol has multiple means im just asking?
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#26 Phoenix534
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[QUOTE="Phoenix534"]

How about an option that says, "It's an incredible that deserves AAA. I'm a Manticore."

WINDWAKER1

They aren't real

You're talking to one right now. I've never been/am not/never will be a fanboy. I'm 100% Manticore.

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#27 brickdoctor
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I fall under the option of "Yes, I'm a cow." The game is very overated, and I love PS3 exclusives.

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#28 Espada12
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Look at all the people feeding him! Make it reach 12 pages windwalker!

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#29 Cyberfairy
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You're joking?

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Fix'd.

OP has a point though, but it targets a certain demographic and should therefore also be scored with that in mind.

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#30 TheArmyGuy48
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but it is tho isnt it? also, out of a pool of 30 people who review games for a living, 24 of them dissagree with you.

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#31 Rza_rectah
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[QUOTE="Jandurin"]Have you even played it?WINDWAKER1

Nope, but I'm ready to argue all day, hence the creation of this thread

Agrue all day about something you know little about? Ignorance mean much to you?
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[QUOTE="Jandurin"]Have you even played it?WINDWAKER1

Nope, but I'm ready to argue all day, hence the creation of this thread

I don't understand how you can argue about how it's like another game or how it's difficult when you haven't even played it? Every reviewer could just be lying to you...
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#33 WINDWAKER1
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[QUOTE="WINDWAKER1"]

[QUOTE="Phoenix534"]

How about an option that says, "It's an incredible that deserves AAA. I'm a Manticore."

Phoenix534

They aren't real

You're talking to one right now. I've never been/am not/never will be a fanboy. I'm 100% Manticore.

Bah, then you must have no fun

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#34 Alpha-Male22
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[QUOTE="Trinners"]

[QUOTE="WINDWAKER1"]

it's so similar to ninja gaiden.

WINDWAKER1

Stopped reading right there.

They're both really difficult, so yes they are similar in that regard

Oh gee, I guess flipping Halo is similar to basketball then, since my aim is to shoot.
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#35 WINDWAKER1
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[QUOTE="WINDWAKER1"]

[QUOTE="Jandurin"]Have you even played it?Jandurin

Nope, but I'm ready to argue all day, hence the creation of this thread

I don't understand how you can argue about how it's like another game or how it's difficult when you haven't even played it? Every reviewer could just be lying to you...

I just enjoy these types of threads too much to not offer my input

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#36 Rza_rectah
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[QUOTE="Jandurin"][QUOTE="WINDWAKER1"]

Have you even played it?Jandurin

Nope, but I'm ready to argue all day, hence the creation of this thread

I don't understand how you can argue about how it's like another game or how it's difficult when you haven't even played it? Every reviewer could just be lying to you...

I ve played harder games atleast this game gives you a chance second to reclaim your souls.
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#37 2beers_in_hand
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It makes me laugh because it's so similar to ninja gaiden. So many people are psyched for it, and 80% of those psyched people will quit after the second level (Exactly like ninja gaiden). This game does not deserve AAA at all, games should atleast try to be somewhat accessable, and if they aren't they should get a worse score. AAA games need to be moderately simple for casuals, but have that deeper layer of strategy for the hardcore.

WINDWAKER1
So what your saying is due to you being a casual, you feel demon soul's is far to hard for you?
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#38 Trinners
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[QUOTE="Trinners"]

[QUOTE="WINDWAKER1"]

it's so similar to ninja gaiden.

Rza_rectah

Stopped reading right there.

Same people need to stop complaining about the games difficulty. 80 percent of the people who bought it wont finish it WTF? To trinners why does the dude in your pic have a swastika on his back i know that symbol has multiple means im just asking?

He's cosplaying a character from an anime. The symbol is the jolly roger of the Whitebeard Pirates.

Also to TC:

Ninja Gaiden difficulty is due to the fact that the game always puts you at a disadvantage

Demon's Souls however the playing field is balanced, If you die it's because you screwed up not because the game was stacked against you. The game is accessible where the plyaer can take advantage of everything. If you choose not to, then you are putting yourself at a disadvantage not the game.

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#39 sakura_Ex
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I find it refreshing that hardcore games are getting such high scores
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#40 Abicus7
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I've been waiting for a game like this. You have to take your time, think about every step and try not to make mistakes.

Just beating 1 level is a very rewarding experience.

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#41 Rza_rectah
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[QUOTE="Trinners"]

[QUOTE="Rza_rectah"][QUOTE="Trinners"]

Stopped reading right there.

Same people need to stop complaining about the games difficulty. 80 percent of the people who bought it wont finish it WTF? To trinners why does the dude in your pic have a swastika on his back i know that symbol has multiple means im just asking?

He's cosplaying a character from an anime. The symbol is the jolly roger of the Whitebeard Pirates.

Also to TC:

Ninja Gaiden difficulty is due to the fact that the game always puts you at a disadvantage

Demon's Souls however the playing field is balanced; If you die it's because you screwed not because the game was stack against you. The game is accessible where the plyaer can take advantage of everything. If you choose not to then you are putting yourself at a disadvantage not the game.

Oh One Piece im guessing
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#42 finalfantasy94
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I dont consider myself a hardcore gamer but yet I find Demon's souls as an easy game its not as hard as what some people making it seem.

Kashiwaba

IM pretty sure you have died a couple of times at least. Im also sure you must be playing smart and not trying to bum rush all enimies. DS is about waiting to strike and having the right stuff. If you botch up while fighting you will get the beating of your life and die in like 2-3 hits depending on the foe.

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#43 jerkface96
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It makes me laugh because it's so similar to ninja gaiden. So many people are psyched for it, and 80% of those psyched people will quit after the second level (Exactly like ninja gaiden). This game does not deserve AAA at all, games should atleast try to be somewhat accessable, and if they aren't they should get a worse score. AAA games need to be moderately simple for casuals, but have that deeper layer of strategy for the hardcore.

WINDWAKER1
so just because it doesnt tailor to your lack of skill, it should not be AAA, look at the scores on Metacritic last time i checked it was averaging an 89, which is pretty good in my book. and the game is nothing like NG, NG was cheap, DS actually takes skill.
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oh and question to those who played the game does any one else find the dodging awkward in this game?

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#45 patrickjw333
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It makes me laugh because it's so similar to ninja gaiden. So many people are psyched for it, and 80% of those psyched people will quit after the second level (Exactly like ninja gaiden). This game does not deserve AAA at all, games should atleast try to be somewhat accessable, and if they aren't they should get a worse score. AAA games need to be moderately simple for casuals, but have that deeper layer of strategy for the hardcore.

WINDWAKER1
let me guess, you dont have a ps3 huh?.........
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#46 WINDWAKER1
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[QUOTE="WINDWAKER1"]

[QUOTE="Trinners"]

Stopped reading right there.

Alpha-Male22

They're both really difficult, so yes they are similar in that regard

Oh gee, I guess flipping Halo is similar to basketball then, since my aim is to shoot.

It's obvious that shooting a basketball is different than shooting a gun, but I guess you could say that in both you're trying to hit the target (Hoop/Enemy) while avoiding obstacles (Defense/other People firing at you)

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I'm just comparing DS to ninja gaiden because both have hard difficulty, and both I imagine have plenty of people that quit early on. It's amusing to me because plenty of the people that hype it to 9.5 and when a good review comes out say YES that reviewer is a GENIUS, go to the store and buy the game. And within 2 hours of playing get stuck and stop forever.

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#47 deactivated-5b19214ec908b
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oh and question to those who played the game does any one else find the dodging awkward in this game?

Rza_rectah
not really. try leveling your stamina
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#48 Rza_rectah
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[QUOTE="toast_burner"][QUOTE="Rza_rectah"]

oh and question to those who played the game does any one else find the dodging awkward in this game?

not really. try leveling your stamina

cool thanks.
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#49 Couth_
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This game does not deserve AAA at all, games should atleast try to be somewhat accessable, and if they aren't they should get a worse score.WINDWAKER1
This is one of the most ridiculous arguments I have ever read. Why does everyone think they have the power to decide what a AAA game, or any game should or shouldn't have? What's worse, this guy admitted to not playing the game on the first page. :?
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#50 WINDWAKER1
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[QUOTE="WINDWAKER1"]

It makes me laugh because it's so similar to ninja gaiden. So many people are psyched for it, and 80% of those psyched people will quit after the second level (Exactly like ninja gaiden). This game does not deserve AAA at all, games should atleast try to be somewhat accessable, and if they aren't they should get a worse score. AAA games need to be moderately simple for casuals, but have that deeper layer of strategy for the hardcore.

jerkface96

so just because it doesnt tailor to your lack of skill, it should not be AAA, look at the scores on Metacritic last time i checked it was averaging an 89, which is pretty good in my book. and the game is nothing like NG, NG was cheap, DS actually takes skill.

Games that cater to .5% of all gamers should not get a AAA. Being accessable to multiple skill levels should affect the score, whether it be higher or lower.