EGM July 08 issue #229 info and reviews (Ouch @ Metal Gear Solid IV)

[QUOTE="yellowandmushy"][QUOTE="f50p90"]

I'm calling BS and PATHETIC fannboyism by another fakeboy lemming

The June EGM issue 229 is supposed to have a GTAIV review. Wheres it at?? "More cutscenes than gameplay" :lol: good one...

f50p90

Editor talking about GTAIV review in issue 229...

AND READ ON...theres no MGS4 review in this mag

TC OWNED HARD

Last month's issue "June" is 229. This new issue is supposed to be 230 "July". OP messed it up. The 229 issue "june", aka last month's does have the GTA4 review, and they also said at the end of that issue that they will have reviews for NG2 and MGS4 in next month's issue, "July".

[QUOTE="EmperorSupreme"]EGM didnt give Halo3 game of the month either when it came out so anything is possible. LEVEL One with no proof, I'm taking this ightly for now. AmyMizuno

Maybe EGM is just desperate and is trying to do anything... even if it means giving good games bad reviews in order to get people to pick up and read their magazines.

Ya, because that MGS review is atrocious. How dare they only score it as a gold game and not platinum. They are clearly trying to drum up attention by scoring it that way:roll:

[QUOTE="EmperorSupreme"]EGM didnt give Halo3 game of the month either when it came out so anything is possible. LEVEL One with no proof, I'm taking this ightly for now. AmyMizuno

Maybe EGM is just desperate and is trying to do anything... even if it means giving good games bad reviews in order to get people to pick up and read their magazines.

[QUOTE="f50p90"][QUOTE="yellowandmushy"][QUOTE="f50p90"]

I'm calling BS and PATHETIC fannboyism by another fakeboy lemming

The June EGM issue 229 is supposed to have a GTAIV review. Wheres it at?? "More cutscenes than gameplay" :lol: good one...

vspectra6

Editor talking about GTAIV review in issue 229...

AND READ ON...theres no MGS4 review in this mag

TC OWNED HARD

Last month's issue "June" is 229. This new issue is supposed to be 230 "July". OP messed it up. The 229 issue "june", aka last month's does have the GTA4 review, and they also said at the end of that issue that they will have reviews for NG2 and MGS4 in next month's issue, "July".

[QUOTE="rappid_rabbit"][QUOTE="bstarter29"]

Even more good news for MGS fans. MGS4 is sounding more and more like MGS2 (a.k.a. Kojima's greatest masterpiece).

Too people complaining about the amound of cutscenes, don't buy MGS4. This game is for the fans. There'll be many cutscenes. Oh happy day.

bstarter29

"Kojima's masterpiece" I lol'ed so hard I crapped my pants.

MGS>MGS2

Metal Gear Solid is a masterpeice, excellent story, pacing, gameplay. Not to mention Solid Snake. You know...the "Solid" in Metal Gear Solid.

Well, I'm sure you'll be pleased to hear that Kojima once said in an interview that Raiden is his favorite character ever in MGS.

Oh, and Solid Snake is in MGS2. If you actually pay attention to the story you would know why Raiden is in the game, and the main character. It wouldn't make any sense to place Solid Snake at the heart of MGS2.

MGS2>MGS

So...your basing your judgment on the game based on what Kojima thinks?

Yeah, I did pay attention to the story and it was whack. Masterpiece my left nut.

Confirmed fake by Andrew Pfister.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=11291676&postcount=24

[QUOTE="bstarter29"][QUOTE="rappid_rabbit"][QUOTE="bstarter29"]

Even more good news for MGS fans. MGS4 is sounding more and more like MGS2 (a.k.a. Kojima's greatest masterpiece).

Too people complaining about the amound of cutscenes, don't buy MGS4. This game is for the fans. There'll be many cutscenes. Oh happy day.

rappid_rabbit

"Kojima's masterpiece" I lol'ed so hard I crapped my pants.

MGS>MGS2

Metal Gear Solid is a masterpeice, excellent story, pacing, gameplay. Not to mention Solid Snake. You know...the "Solid" in Metal Gear Solid.

Well, I'm sure you'll be pleased to hear that Kojima once said in an interview that Raiden is his favorite character ever in MGS.

Oh, and Solid Snake is in MGS2. If you actually pay attention to the story you would know why Raiden is in the game, and the main character. It wouldn't make any sense to place Solid Snake at the heart of MGS2.

MGS2>MGS

So...your basing your judgment on the game based on what Kojima thinks?

No, but it does help. The game is clearly superior to the others and that is a result of his work.

f50p90

This is when allowing scans are of good use, even if only for PMs. :p

I'm calling BS and PATHETIC fannboyism by another fakeboy lemming

The June EGM issue 229 is supposed to have a GTAIV review. Wheres it at?? "More cutscenes than gameplay" :lol: good one...

http://boards.1up.com/zd/board/message?board.id=games&message.id=713985

Theres an editor saying they the GTAIV review in June issue 229

f50p90

Nevermind, seems like it's fake. Skip over at NeoGAF, aka Andrew Pfister of 1UP, says it's fake.

this is 100% false. there is no official review of MGS4 in the Gears cover of EGM.skip

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=11291676&postcount=24

I've gotta give the OP props for some impressive creativity, though.

There's probably a bunch of MGS4 fans breathing sighs of relief right now. :P

[QUOTE="ReverseCycology"][QUOTE="f50p90"]

I'm calling BS and PATHETIC fannboyism by another fakeboy lemming

The June EGM issue 229 is supposed to have a GTAIV review. Wheres it at?? "More cutscenes than gameplay" :lol: good one...

Coyo7e

The TC said it was the July issue, I have the June issue of EGM and it has the GTA IV review. :|

But if everyone who disagrees with you is a rabid lemming even something as reasonable as what you are saying is just a lie.

I think the TC meant it was issue 230, because the issues I have is June 229 and here are the reviews of the games:

Mario Kart Wii - shane = B+, milkman = C+, jeremy = C

Blast Works - ray = A, nick = A-, sharkey = B-

Castle of Shikigami III - sam = C+, a.fitch = C+, ray = B-

UEFA EURO 2008 - todd = B+, andrew p = B+, david = A

NBA Ballers Chosen One - todd = D+, a.fitch = D, g.ford = C

GTA IV - crispin = A+, g.ford = A+, andrew p = A (also says "the 360 version is the one to get")

Viking - D+, C-, C+

Shin Megami Tensei - A, A, A

Myst - C-, D, D

Super Dodgeball Brawlers - C+, C, C+

The MGS4 review is 100% false as confirmed by skip over at GAF (pg. 1 of the thread)

I'm pretty sure "skip" is andrew pfiester from 1up yours....if you've listend to the podcast before you'll understand.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=299605

edit: apparantely I was beaten to the punch on this.....wow, and that threat just opened too.

Does that mean the Skies of Arcadia info is false as well? That will bum me out......

[QUOTE="Prosecut0rGodot"]

Rumors:

- Skies of Arcadia sequel will be announced sooner than you might think, along with that other SEGA franchise that you want the most, both for the Wii

peaceful_anger

omfg i hope its true!!! :cry:

I find it really hard to believe this guy.

- His initial post is riddled with mistakes that many people have pointed out and fixed.

- If you google this up, it always comes back here - threads on other sites, like GameTrailers are sourced right back to this one.

- Level 1 poster?

Maybe he's right, and maybe he's wrong. Whatever the case is, judging from the previous review scores that EGM has handed out to MGS4, this one scored lower.

[QUOTE="rappid_rabbit"][QUOTE="bstarter29"][QUOTE="rappid_rabbit"][QUOTE="bstarter29"]

Even more good news for MGS fans. MGS4 is sounding more and more like MGS2 (a.k.a. Kojima's greatest masterpiece).

Too people complaining about the amound of cutscenes, don't buy MGS4. This game is for the fans. There'll be many cutscenes. Oh happy day.

bstarter29

"Kojima's masterpiece" I lol'ed so hard I crapped my pants.

MGS>MGS2

Metal Gear Solid is a masterpeice, excellent story, pacing, gameplay. Not to mention Solid Snake. You know...the "Solid" in Metal Gear Solid.

Well, I'm sure you'll be pleased to hear that Kojima once said in an interview that Raiden is his favorite character ever in MGS.

Oh, and Solid Snake is in MGS2. If you actually pay attention to the story you would know why Raiden is in the game, and the main character. It wouldn't make any sense to place Solid Snake at the heart of MGS2.

MGS2>MGS

So...your basing your judgment on the game based on what Kojima thinks?

No, but it does help. The game is clearly superior to the others and that is a result of his work.

"No, but it does help."...

I quoted it so you can read it...step back, then read it again.

Anyway its obvious your just a Kojima group-ie, but lets agree to disagree. We both know MGS4 will be a lot more a of a memorable game than Ninja Gaiden 2.

Besides its pointless to put these games head to head like fanboys have been doing on this board for days non-stop now. If I want a great gaming experience Im going with MGS4...for pure fun, Ill go with NG2.

Nevermind, seems like it's fake. Skip over at NeoGAF, aka Andrew Pfister of 1UP, says it's fake.

[quote="skip"]this is 100% false. there is no official review of MGS4 in the Gears cover of EGM.Zeliard9

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=11291676&postcount=24

I've gotta give the OP props for some impressive creativity, though.

There's probably a bunch of MGS4 fans breathing sighs of relief right now. :P

Wow, that took a while for it to be proved fake. Props to the people looking out.

[QUOTE="cowgriller"]

i remember when GS was based on the .1 system. hell i remember years ago when multiplats were given separate scores. nowadays, they give multi's the same score as each other regardless if one has more flaws than the other. tbh, i don't think that mgs4 will get higer than 8.5 on GS but as you said, you don't care about reviews. i for one can't stand the mgs series. i played the original for the ps a decade ago and never liked it. the game play wasn't great at all, especially with the overhead camera that made it seem as if you were playing in a maze rather than an action game. too damn many cutsences. i admit that i like cutsences, especially ones that add new levels of story, dialogue and emotions to a game that would otherwise be absent, but seriously, there is a limit. mgs forced the gamer to sit through 15 minutes of cutsences in between gameplay moments. several of these cutsences really add up and in mgs4, it really does show being that the game is said to be 1/3 cutsences. as for skipping the cutsences, yes you can do that, but then you'll miss relevant information about what is truely happening storywise in the game. all i'm saying is, keep the cutsences but keep them short. hopefully you enjoy mgs4 when you get it. we all have different tastes in games, and this one leaves a sour taste in my mouth.

Zenkuso

I'm a fan of the series, I'll admit it out right and Won't hide it.

I personal enjoy the characters, concepts and intrigue of the story as a whole.

Game reviewing is more simplified nowadays, its why I don't read them much anymore, but metal gear solid has been a AA series here on Gamespot so I wouldn't be surprised at all.

I have different tastes to a lot of people around here, I've been playing games since the 80's and I've come to enjoy certain aspects of games more nowadays then before but I don't bash people for there choices in games cause each of us enjoy something different to one another, most people around here don't debate they just bash which is quite annoying but thats the internet for ya ;)

wow. a gamer since the 80's. i've been a gamer since the early-90's. i prefer my games tobe action packed full of guts and gore. i do enjoy horror games like silent hill. as for mgs, never my cup of tea. reviews today are bought off left and right, and if a publisher buys good reviews and get something less than what they pay for, we end up with the jeff gertsmann incident. reviews are to be taken for what they are, someone else's opinion. if enough reviews are good, then the game can be seen as a success and entertaining. i doesn't necessarily mean that you'll enjoy it yourself, it means others have. the same way reviewers and gamers love the gta series, i hate it. why? though it is action packed, it's pretty uch senseless violence with no point and no story. i can understand were your coming from with your disdain for reviews and their lack of relevance for personal gaming habits and tastes. i feel the same. review scores were made for people who can't decide for themselves. nowadays, they're also used as "ownage" for prepubescent fanboys.

I find it really hard to believe this guy.

- His initial post is riddled with mistakes that many people have pointed out and fixed.

- If you google this up, it always comes back here - threads on other sites, like GameTrailers are sourced right back to this one.

- Level 1 poster?

Maybe he's right, and maybe he's wrong. Whatever the case is, judging from the previous review scores that EGM has handed out to MGS4, this one scored lower.

elbow2k

It was proved false, check out the previous page.

Well, now I know why it was so convincing. Pfister also says the rest of what the OP wrote, as far as he can recall, is legit.Zeliard9

If a Skies game is heading to the Wii I will have something really interesting to follow in regards to the system. I hope that is legit.

EGM gave both MGS2 and MGS3 9.5/10.

To think that they would say "Too many cutscenes" is a problems is crazy, considering the fact that it clearly didn't bother them with the previous games.

[EDIT] internet ftw

EGM gave both MGS2 and MGS3 9.5/10.

To think that they would say "Too many cutscenes" is a problems is crazy, considering the fact that it clearly didn't bother them with the previous games.

elbow2k

I knew it was fake from the start, because he messed up and put 229, but I have that issue, he should've said it was 230. But even then in the June issue, it didn't say anything about the July issue having the MGS4 review, but it did say it'll have the GT5p review.

Also it's hella funny seeing all these cows damage controlling the part "more cutscenes than gameplay" lol. They said things like MGS4 is about story, so its ok for more cutscenes, lol.

Some of the information is true and some of its fake ;)

Lost Planet and Metal Gear Solid 4 scores are off the mark.

[QUOTE="bstarter29"][QUOTE="rappid_rabbit"][QUOTE="bstarter29"][QUOTE="rappid_rabbit"][QUOTE="bstarter29"]

Even more good news for MGS fans. MGS4 is sounding more and more like MGS2 (a.k.a. Kojima's greatest masterpiece).

Too people complaining about the amound of cutscenes, don't buy MGS4. This game is for the fans. There'll be many cutscenes. Oh happy day.

rappid_rabbit

"Kojima's masterpiece" I lol'ed so hard I crapped my pants.

MGS>MGS2

Metal Gear Solid is a masterpeice, excellent story, pacing, gameplay. Not to mention Solid Snake. You know...the "Solid" in Metal Gear Solid.

Well, I'm sure you'll be pleased to hear that Kojima once said in an interview that Raiden is his favorite character ever in MGS.

Oh, and Solid Snake is in MGS2. If you actually pay attention to the story you would know why Raiden is in the game, and the main character. It wouldn't make any sense to place Solid Snake at the heart of MGS2.

MGS2>MGS

So...your basing your judgment on the game based on what Kojima thinks?

No, but it does help. The game is clearly superior to the others and that is a result of his work.

"No, but it does help."...

I quoted it so you can read it...step back, then read it again.

Anyway its obvious your just a Kojima group-ie, but lets agree to disagree. We both know MGS4 will be a lot more a of a memorable game than Ninja Gaiden 2.

Besides its pointless to put these games head to head like fanboys have been doing on this board for days non-stop now. If I want a great gaming experience Im going with MGS4...for pure fun, Ill go with NG2.

Kojima is the greatest, but I would consider myself a groupie of his. I only play MGS. I'm not a fan of ZoE, Snatcher, or PoliceNauts.

What I meant by "it helps" is that it's a good supporter if you're arguing over which MGS title is the best.

But w/e. I agree. MGS4 will blow away NG2, and will be the best MGS yet. And to let you know, I love all the MGS' and rank them as my top 3 favorite games ever like this:

MGS2

MGS

MGS3

And I'll admit, I am so relieved that this is fake. Good news indeed.

i knew it was false.Nolan16

i had my suspicions....that's why I was lurkin over at GAf....I knew they'd have first word.

[QUOTE="elbow2k"]

EGM gave both MGS2 and MGS3 9.5/10.

To think that they would say "Too many cutscenes" is a problems is crazy, considering the fact that it clearly didn't bother them with the previous games.

Sooshy

[QUOTE="elbow2k"]

EGM gave both MGS2 and MGS3 9.5/10.

To think that they would say "Too many cutscenes" is a problems is crazy, considering the fact that it clearly didn't bother them with the previous games.

Sooshy

I thought Garnett said he wouldn't since he went over to Konami to have that pre-release playthrough? We will see though.

I knew it was fake from the start, because he messed up and put 229, but I have that issue, he should've said it was 230. But even then in the June issue, it didn't say anything about the July issue having the MGS4 review, but it did say it'll have the GT5p review.

Also it's hella funny seeing all these cows damage controlling the part "more cutscenes than gameplay" lol. They said things like MGS4 is about story, so its ok for more cutscenes, lol.

ReverseCycology

Actually thoe whole "more cutscenes than gameplay" is what made all of this seem like BS. To me at least. It contradicts the reviews thus far.

"Cons more Cute Scenes than gameplay" is a lie. The OPM said the game was 29 hours long with 2\3 being gameplay with the rest being cutscenes and codec conversations. EGM bias much?Jeremiah123456

EGM is more biased than Official Playstation Mag? cows :lol:

[QUOTE="Zeliard9"]Well, now I know why it was so convincing. Pfister also says the rest of what the OP wrote, as far as he can recall, is legit.Coyo7e

If a Skies game is heading to the Wii I will have something really interesting to follow in regards to the system. I hope that is legit.

I heard about a rumor about a Skies sequel in the makings at some point last year, so that part is very likely true. Pfister also noted that the rest of what the OP wrote looked about right after someone asked him specifically about the Skies sequel, too.

I hope this means the NG2 review is legit. Those are good scores.

I knew it was fake from the start, because he messed up and put 229, but I have that issue, he should've said it was 230. But even then in the June issue, it didn't say anything about the July issue having the MGS4 review, but it did say it'll have the GT5p review.

Also it's hella funny seeing all these cows damage controlling the part "more cutscenes than gameplay" lol. They said things like MGS4 is about story, so its ok for more cutscenes, lol.

ReverseCycology

The instant dmg control and shouts of EGM is bias, or just trying to drum up attention, were really funny.

We should have known this was fake from the beginning. If you look at the July issue (which does have Gears 2 on the cover actually) there's not one mention of an MGS4 review.

I think that would've been pretty big news if they were reviewing it.

See. It's fake. And once more Skies of Arcadia II has fallen out of my grasp. Someone will pay dearly for this._BlueDuck_

Some of it is fake (i.e. the MGS4 review) but I think lots of it is real (i.e Skies of Arcadia sequel?).

See. It's fake. And once more Skies of Arcadia II has fallen out of my grasp. Someone will pay dearly for this._BlueDuck_

It hasn't. That part is actually true.

See. It's fake. And once more Skies of Arcadia II has fallen out of my grasp. Someone will pay dearly for this._BlueDuck_

It appears there is a glimmer of hope that the skies info may be true.

[QUOTE="Sooshy"][QUOTE="elbow2k"]

EGM gave both MGS2 and MGS3 9.5/10.

To think that they would say "Too many cutscenes" is a problems is crazy, considering the fact that it clearly didn't bother them with the previous games.

MikeE21286

I thought Garnett said he wouldn't since he went over to Konami to have that pre-release playthrough? We will see though.

[QUOTE="ReverseCycology"]

I knew it was fake from the start, because he messed up and put 229, but I have that issue, he should've said it was 230. But even then in the June issue, it didn't say anything about the July issue having the MGS4 review, but it did say it'll have the GT5p review.

Also it's hella funny seeing all these cows damage controlling the part "more cutscenes than gameplay" lol. They said things like MGS4 is about story, so its ok for more cutscenes, lol.

Coyo7e

The instant dmg control and shouts of EGM is bias, or just trying to drum up attention, were really funny.

Yep, the TC got me though, made me go downstairs and get the latest issue of EGM June 229. Good one TC, you bandodger you, ha.

NeoGaf says this is 100% false!

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=11291676&postcount=24

do we have any more confrimation than the OP's word for it?

[QUOTE="Jeremiah123456"]"Cons more Cute Scenes than gameplay" is a lie. The OPM said the game was 29 hours long with 2\3 being gameplay with the rest being cutscenes and codec conversations. EGM bias much?100Gamer

EGM is more biased than Official Playstation Mag? cows :lol:

The guy that reviewd MGS4 in the US PSM was a former OXM editor. He gave it 5/5.

EGM may not be too biased as a whole, but they do have a couple of biased editors.